The Real Mike Huckabee

The Nation ^ | 1/11/08 | Max Blumenthal

[Gabz]

I apparently read and write far better than you -— and so I am finished with you, just as I am finished with Mr. Huckabee.

[SoConPubbie]

"Governor Huckabee feels deep sympathy for Mrs. Davidson's loss. He is also appalled by this ad, which cynically exploits the profound and private grief of a mother in a truly despicable way, and recklessly abandons the truth of the case. "It's extremely unfortunate when 527 groups, exploit the victim of a crime and put their families through this public exposure again for political gain. How far do we have to go to say enough is enough? "Democrat Governor Jim Guy Tucker, not Mike Huckabee, gave executive clemency to Wayne Dumond, and commuted his sentence to 39.5 years. Tucker’s action made Wayne Dumond immediately eligible for parole. "The parole board that released Dumond was made up entirely of Democrats appointed by Democrat Governors Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker. Not one member of the board was appointed by Huckabee. "The ad quotes parole board member Ermer Pondexter as saying she was pressured by Governor Huckabee to free Dumond. She and other Democrats on the board have made the same allegations in every election year. The people of Arkansas weren’t fooled by it in 2002 and the people of Iowa weren’t fooled by it earlier this year."

None of this satisfies any rules of evidence or proof.

It is composed of smear by association on the part of those making the accusations being Democrats and we all know there are no honest democrats don't we?<\SARCASM>

Everything else is simply the Huckster's word against the Parole Board members word and that does not cut it for me since we already have Huckabee not being honest about his fiscal record.

[highpockets]

This is off topic.

I have lived in many places; California, Alaska, Texas, Florida, N.Carolina, W. Virgina and even Kansas

I spent a couple of months working in Little Rock about 2 years ago.

Little Rock has the worst drivers in the United States.

Apparently the ability to think is not a requirement for the operation of automobiles in Arkansas.

[bethtopaz]

It is evil that you are letting yourself be so deluded by such a deceptive phoney like Mike Huckabee.

[SoConPubbie]

And your rule is what? Looks like:

"Believe inflammatory charges defaming somoene's character, without evidence, in an election season, as long as you are opposing him."

Nope, something much more simple:

Once somebody lies to me, I check everything they say for veracity (truth).

The Huckster lied about himself when he called himself a fiscal conservative. The historical record shows something completely different.

[bethtopaz]

Interesting tagline, Unspun.

God, please save us from Mike Huckabee’s ego.

[Mr Rogers]

Do you deny the parole board refused parole to Dummond before Huckabee became Gov? And do you deny that, before the parole board took any other action, he announced his intention to free Dummond? Do you deny the parole board then changed their ruling, and paroled Dummond before Huckabee commuted his sentence?

Sorry, but there is a ton of documentary evidence that Huckabee WANTED Dummond on the streets, and the parole board only stepped in AFTER that public announcement.

Huckabee has been very deceptive about this incident. His statement required parsing - like Clinton. But then, as Huckabee keeps boasting, a state that loved Bill Clinton kept returning him to office as well!

[NoobRep]

That’s where things stood when Huckabee took office on July 15, 1996. Last August, Huckabee told me (Byron York) he had his doubts about Dumond’s guilt, and also felt sorry for him over the castration attack. On September 20, just weeks after taking office, Huckabee announced that he intended to set Dumond free, saying that there were “serious questions as to the legitimacy of his guilt.”

[SoConPubbie]

Drivers here in LA are getting worse and worse as well.

Almost like they have no fear of death.

[SatinDoll]

>>
Just as his surge in the polls began, Huckabee addressed the student body of the late Rev. Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University in November. There, he assured his enraptured audience that his sudden rise had nothing to do with his “easy-going” style. “There’s only one explanation for [my surge] and it’s not a human one,” Huckabee insisted, inspiring gales of applause from the overflow crowd. “It’s the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of five thousand people.”
>>

There is a reason this man is referred to as the Huckster. The above is a good example. People, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Mike Huckabee, all believe, BELIEVE, they are different than you and me. Somehow they are special. And that generally results in them doing things beyond the ethical boundaries (or legal boundaries) and believing that the rules and laws which bind other folks just don’t apply to them.

[SoConPubbie]

This is the problem with Huckabee.

He has learned from the master, Bill Clinton, how to turn a phrase, how to turn factual accusation back up with historical fact back on those who confront him on issues, and then he uses this “I feel your pain” garbage ALA Clinton.

He is simply a Bill Clinton in a Republican Suit.

[unspun]

“Dear Wayne,” Huckabee wrote in a letter to Dumond. “My desire is that you be released from prison. I feel that parole is the best way for your reintroduction to society to take place.”

That prefaces Huckabee explaining to him, that he could not grant him a commutation, since he would not be supervised. And whether that was sugar-coating it a bit for Dumond, or simply stated the facts, the conclusion is the same. Huckabee refused comutation -- at least three times.

Feel free to provide the context.

It's amazing what "conservatives" will do -- especially when they get to South Carolina.

[bethtopaz]

When I first saw Mike Huckabee at the debates I thought, what a great guy, with a great sense of humor.

He seems so positive — and funny!

Why don’t conservatives support him?

He’s a governor, he’s pro-life ... why not?

Then I began to learn about Mike Huckabee.

The ugly truth came out ... and as time went just became uglier and uglier.

Then I started to listen to what he had to say.

And I swear, if I shut my eyes, and didn’t know I was listening to a Republican, I could have sworn I was listening to a liberal democrat.

Huckabee is bad for the Republican Party.
Huckabee was bad for Arkansas.
Huckabee would be horrible for America.

[cowdog77]

Good post Unspun....but let the blind remain blind still.

[unspun]

And do you deny that, before the parole board took any other action, he announced his intention to free Dummond?

Nice try, to flip-flop the principles of allegation and evidence.

Are you alleging? Then cite your evidence.

[SoConPubbie]

That prefaces Huckabee explaining to him, that he could not grant him a commutation, since he would not be supervised. And whether that was sugar-coating it a bit for Dumond, or simply stated the facts, the conclusion is the same. Huckabee refused comutation -- at least three times.

And then he pardoned 3 times the combined number of criminals that the governors from the states bordering Arkansas pardoned during his tenure.

This man has no comon sense.

He has a liberal's bleeding heart and tries to cover that with his false cloak of Christianity.

[coalman]

Its evil if he lies and acts like a Christian
Its evil if he lies about his role in releasing a rapist
IF is the key word,its a presidential campaign,he can handle lies,but if he is the liar,where is the shame and evil then?
Personally,I don’t know,but I am sure the truth will come to light

[unspun]

And that generally results in them doing things beyond the ethical boundaries (or legal boundaries) and believing that the rules and laws which bind other folks just don’t apply to them.

Here, you leap from innuendo to baseless accusation. That is called character assassination. Shame on you.

[SoConPubbie]

Good post Unspun....but let the blind remain blind still.

Kind of ironic coming from people who have their heads stuck in the sand.

[Mr Rogers]

I am stating that the parole board denied release. Then Huckabee took office, and he announced he would release Dummoond. This resulted in a 30-120 day review process. There was an uproar over his announcement, and Huckabee met with the Parole Board. The Parole Board then reversed their precious decision, and paroled Dummond 4 days prior to Huckabee needing to put up or shut up.

Those are facts. Look them up - I’m not going to do the research again for you at 9:15PM.