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Could Europe defeat Iran?
01/19/2008 | WesternCulture

Posted on 01/19/2008 1:19:16 PM PST by WesternCulture

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To: Grimmy

I do not disagree.


21 posted on 01/19/2008 2:04:34 PM PST by PGalt
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To: garyhope

Call me a sentimental sap. But, when I see folk like Western stand up, I tend to see them as kindred.

When ever one of these folk stand up and declare themselves, I find myself wanting to encourage them. Stand with them. Count them as among those I consider my own.

Part of me looks forward to watching the cities of Europe burn on live TV. I’m just heard hearted and sour that way. But another part of me rejoices whenever one of them stands up and declares himself against our common foe.

Rally to the spears and stand. Hard times are coming to us all.

Ad Triarios Redisse!


22 posted on 01/19/2008 2:14:50 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: WesternCulture

No.


23 posted on 01/19/2008 2:25:12 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: WesternCulture

The EU is a ‘potential’ super power that presently is failing to take its full global responsibility as such a power.

Furthermore, many Europeans are very isolationist, even more isolationist than the US was prior to Pearl Harbor.

Despite what happened in Madrid and London and despite the fact that a lot of sons and daughters of my continent are participating in the WOT at a close range, most Europeans view the WOT as a conflict between USA and some lunatics hiding in caves.

As Europeans, the least thing we could do is to care just a little bit more than so about people who actually risk their own lives on a daily basis.

Still, nurturing hope for Europe is not in vain.

For generations, we Europeans have endured downright hell and maybe that’s why we don’t bother too much about present tragedies that actually ought to concern us more.

Just like we, as individuals, are stronger than we think ourselves and other people view us to be, continents of millions might just be stronger than what we sometimes believe.

After all, Europe survived WWII like my Viking ancestors survived catching a cold.

Triumph in the WOT and a new renaissance of Western Civilization?

- Let’s do it.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 2:44:30 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: Grimmy

Best of regards from Gothenburg, Sweden!


25 posted on 01/19/2008 2:45:36 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

You keep on keeping on.
This is going to be a long war and it wont be over with Iraq and Afghanistan, either.

This is an endurance event. Keep it up. Keep pushing. Keep shouting. Even when it feels useless and for no purpose.

Do not allow anyone, ever, to preach futility or despair to you.

Never quit.

Best regards to you too.


26 posted on 01/19/2008 2:50:24 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Doogle; El Gato
Ahoy Zoomies!

Hit your USAF ping lists.
27 posted on 01/19/2008 3:04:21 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: WesternCulture; StarCMC; LUV W
Ping to #5, Ladies. Compliments of our FRiend Western Culture.
28 posted on 01/19/2008 3:22:05 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks! Go Air Force! "Boom-se-boom" :D

29 posted on 01/19/2008 3:28:52 PM PST by luvie (Friendship is neither a contest nor a race. What matters is the feeling involved. <3)
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To: WesternCulture
BUT, is the will of Sweden/Europe really there??

To put it another way, can Sweden generate the political leadership necessary to step up to the status of serious international player? Scandinavia has quietly been growing and amassing wealth and developing the technological resources and infrastructure to become a force in the world, for the first time in what-- a couple hundred years? But will there be a leader with the charisma and vision to take you to that next level? I hope so. The West will need everything it has to resist and repel the encroaching flood of barbarism.

30 posted on 01/19/2008 3:42:51 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: WesternCulture
Your industrial achievements are indeed impressive but in the WoT the greater battle is political and psychological, a battle of will.

Loose your Viking will and nothing will harm you.
31 posted on 01/19/2008 3:52:25 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: garyhope
“It’s not really just Europe, it’s about Western civilization, all the PC and “multicultural” baloney vs the total insanity of Islamofruitcakeism fascism/Nazism, etc.

It’s about the future of civilization on the entire planet and the history of the civilized world.”

- The good news is that a lot of Europeans are beginning to wake up in many areas of vital importance.

Look at France. Sarkozy is a major improvement compared to Chirac.

Look at Germany.
Merkel is an intelligent politician and German work ethic is not a thing of the past. Even though GDP growth still is weak, I daily hear good news concerning my southern neighbors.

Look at Scandinavia.
Today, most Scandinavians are aware that Capitalism is the only way to go, a sense of national prides has come along with the recent economic achievements and PC mentality, Socialism and Feminism are losing ground.

Look at Eastern Europe.
Even stronger economic growth than the Nordic countries and patriotism as well as family values are at an all time high (but more babies, please!!).

Many Europeans and especially young Europeans are strongly opposed to the PC cult of self-contempt today haunting large parts of the West.

In many fields, Europe is aware of its own problems and the solutions to them.

There IS, indeed, a middle way between Nazism and surrender to PC fascism/Islamofascism. It is called Patriotism, Conservatism and true love of Freedom. My impression is that more and more Europeans are choosing this path.

At least 50% of America and 50% of Europe is still sane, so what about the good people of our respective continents get together more often and exchange (and trading insults like those regarding smelly local cheeses and ketchup addiction). Where could we get our Civilization to go?

Nazism, Fascism and Communism is defeated.

If they still were alive, what would men like Socrates, Cicero, Petrarch, Goethe, Schiller, Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Lincoln, Winston Churchill and Reagan tell us to do?

To whine about petty disagreements in the past, bash each other on the Internet and turn internal diplomacy and relations within Western Civilization into an adult kindergarten?

Even though some of us tend to forget it from time to time, the bonds between us are eternal and won’t go away whatever we do or say.

Always here for you, dear brothers and sisters - if I may call you so - across the Atlantic (and that’s NOT something I just say/write),

WesternCulture

32 posted on 01/19/2008 4:00:29 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Correction:

“so what about the good people of our respective continents get together more often and exchange (and trading insults like those regarding smelly local cheeses and ketchup addiction) VIEWS, INFORMATION, ADVICE ETC.

Now get back to your bowl of Freedom Fries (I’m munching on lutefisk-flavored IKEA meatballs by the way)! :D


33 posted on 01/19/2008 4:06:46 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Correction to correction above:

“so what about the good people of our respective continents get together more often and exchange VIEWS, INFORMATION, ADVICE ETC (and TRADE insults like those regarding smelly local cheeses and ketchup addiction)?”

(The sentence above might not meet with BBC standards, but at least it is reminiscent of what normally is achieved in terms of English during daily business meetings throughout my country between people who work for Swedish companies that have adopted English as ‘corporate language’).


34 posted on 01/19/2008 4:22:45 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Yes, if they put their mind to it. But they have no backbone.


35 posted on 01/19/2008 4:23:46 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: WesternCulture
Nazism, Fascism and Communism is (are) defeated.

If they still were alive, what would men like Socrates, Cicero, Petrarch, Goethe, Schiller, Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Lincoln, Winston Churchill and Reagan tell us to do?


They would tell us to be aware of new threats to freedom and prepare.

What needs to be recognized is that the new threat is really an old threat, one we've dismissed, resurgent.
36 posted on 01/19/2008 4:25:42 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: WesternCulture

The EU could not defeat 10 red necks with what they have “around the house” in a 1972 cadilac el dorado convertable.

actually strike that..

a cub scout pack with slingshots.


37 posted on 01/19/2008 4:28:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BIGLOOK

Themisticles was right then and he is right today.

Our so called leaders have utterly failed to see the real threat.


38 posted on 01/19/2008 4:33:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“To put it another way, can Sweden generate the political leadership necessary to step up to the status of serious international player? Scandinavia has quietly been growing and amassing wealth and developing the technological resources and infrastructure to become a force in the world, for the first time in what— a couple hundred years? But will there be a leader with the charisma and vision to take you to that next level? I hope so. The West will need everything it has to resist and repel the encroaching flood of barbarism.”

- Will I go into Swedish politics?

Yes, If all else fails.

But Sweden, as well as Europe as a whole, will not fail.

What’s the name of that old Dylan song again?


39 posted on 01/19/2008 4:35:46 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Start in Malmo


40 posted on 01/19/2008 4:39:52 PM PST by colonialhk (Harry and Nancy are our best moron allies)
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