Posted on 01/19/2008 1:19:16 PM PST by WesternCulture
I don't know for sure, but maybe Sarkozy did a quick check into the military production capacity of Europe before he made his recent threats directed against Tehran.
At least in theory, the world's largest economy is today capable of inflicting such horrifying havoc upon a hostile target that we would need to awake Dante Alighieri from the dead in order to aquire a proper account of it.
Europe could do A LOT more in the WOT area.
I am European. I was born in Sweden and despite the fact that I enjoy exploring the world (Viking genes?), Scandinavia is where I feel my heart belongs.
Some of my countrymen have died in the WOT and so have many other Westerners. Again, words would fail me if I tried to express my views and emotions, but let's agree that all men and women who have died for a just cause are our "countrymen".
In the WOT area, I feel my country could do more and this also goes for the rest of the EU. I'm not saying that sending your son or daughter off to war is the obligation of every freedom loving person, but I am saying it is the duty of every freedom loving individual to reflect upon the cost of freedom.
So, what could MY country do in order to defend true civilization?
I'll have to face it; less than 2% of the EU population lives in Sweden and most Swedes are UN employed hypocrites or bimbo bikini-blonds (we got some Muslim immigrants as well, 3% of the Swedish population are Muslims, many live in Malmö).
Still, if you ask me, Sweden probably has a lot to offer.
We manufacture excellent fighter planes (the Gripen or JAS/JAS Gripen as we often call it ourselves), stealth corvettes, stealth submarines, the deadly accurate Excalibur missile (a very successful result of joint American-Swedish-British efforts).
However, presently most of our industrial capacity is used for producing less deadly products.
In an all-out conventional military confrontation between Iran and the EU (whatever the role of NATO/USA/Russia would be in such a conflict), it's highly possible that a larger amount of Swedish industrial plants would produce weapons than what is the case today.
Sweden and especially Scandinavia as a whole has the industrial and economic muscle to battle evil in a more responsible way. Scandinavia has a combined GDP 25% larger than Russia, has 69 companies listed on the Fortune 2000 list (IKEA and ABB are not included!) while an economic giant like Germany dispose of a mere 57 and Scandinavia is furthermore the richest part of the world (not counting Luxembuorg as a "part" of the world).
Europe as well as USA have made a lot of positive contributions to the cause of true civilization, but the job is not done yet.
If my forebearers could do this my nation could do A LOT more in the WOT, not to speak of the EU as a whole:
Sweden turned Catholicism into a second rate world power in the 17th century and could also manage, despite being lead by an inexperienced, adolescent King (but OK, Charles XII was exceptionally gifted), to ridicule an alliance of Denmark, Poland and Russia to the extent that, especially the "super power", of Russia was left crippled and backwards for decades, if not for centuries. Poltava was a Swedish defeat, but not a Russian victory (regardless of this little Nordic dispute, I'd call Russia of today a good neighbor).
Greetings to everyone who loves FREEDOM out there!
Preparedness for doing what is right in life will never vanish as long as Westerners know the true meaning of this word.
Below, some clips feauturing interesting Swedish military technology.
Gotland, the stealth sub:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khaa3y0i87s
—— Reporter: “- As an adversary, how good are you at what you do?”
Swede: “- Very, very good.” ——
Personally, I’m not in doubt.
Visby, the stealth corvette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHJFqwmFnkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWuLzpufxcM
The JAS “most bang for the buck” Gripen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBQttI1s5eA
The American-British-Swedish Excalibur:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S24QGtx6dJY&feature=related
But, admittedly, some Swedes who are entrusted with tanks ought to take driving lessons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7cebE-sJc8
A nice tribute to USAF as well as the spirit Astrid Lindgren, mother of Pippi Longstocking as well as hundreds of other literary characters, has provided generations of Swedish children with (the song is from a movie based on her books about Emil of Maple Hill which are not as widely known as those about PL)
BUT, is the will of Sweden/Europe really there??
The answer is an emphatic yes, Europe can use that red phone to call the President and negotiate with the Congress to task the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines to defeat the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Iran is.
Europe is not.
By the time agreement on action was reached, they will be dead
SORRY, FORGOT TO INCLUDE THE USAF TRIBUTE LINK!!!!
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAi-N_zcGik
In the short term, No, because it won’t be just Iran, but a block of militant turned countries from Afghanistan across North Africa moving north, as well as controlling the energy that Europe needs and fifth columns within.
In the long term, Yes. I think Europe will be pushed to the brink, and then the will to fight “all for one and one for all” will return and the invaders will be routed.
“The answer is an emphatic yes, Europe can use that red phone to call the President and negotiate with the Congress to task the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines to defeat the Islamic Republic of Iran.”
- Well, if all of us was like Chirac that would probably be the case.
Love those tanks, WC!
You are truly a minority in Europe that you want to defend the Western culture than Muslim animals want to destroy. God bless ya...but your pc continental comrades wont allow freedom to reign, unfortunately.
Could Europe defeat Iran?
Maybe the wrong question. Europe has no intention of defeating anybody.
Better: “Could Europe give Iran a Time-Out?”
Answer: “Absolutely.”
Next Question: “Would a Time-Out on Iran do any good?”
Answer: “No.”
“By the time agreement on action was reached, they will be dead”
- Yes and all that is needed in order to accomplish such an agreement is 400 consecutive EU summits :)
Sure Europe can take on Islamofacism and win. I think that is generally what you are asking.
But first Europeans must be pushed to the precipice before she will come together and act.
Europe does well with its back against the wall. NOt to quick initially though.
Family came from Northeast Sewden, Nordquist.
The more of you that decide to look up and check the actual horizon and begin to relearn how to differentiate between friend and foe, the better.
Keep singing. Someone’s listening. You never know where you’re planting the seeds of discontent for submission to those who wish you and yours destroyed.
Don’t let the idjits get you down. But, also, be ready to stand on your own if it comes to that.
Get loud. Get mean. Help those around you turn their fear into rage.
If I had Sarkozy’s *bride to be* and thought she was in any danger, I’d fire off a nuke to save her. (and Europe)
I love Europe and much of it’s culture and food, wine, etc., but defending themselves? When have they ever done that?
I’d love for them to finally get tough about defending themselves and their great culture and accomplishments, but I have my doubts.
It’s not really just Europe, it’s about Western civilization, all the PC and “multicultural” baloney vs the total insanity of Islamofruitcakeism fascism/Nazism, etc.
It’s about the future of civilization on the entire planet and the history of the civbililzed world.
It’s light and reason against darkness and death and insanity
Good post, Grimmy. You'll have to survive a higher percentage of internal enemies in your backyard and ways to deal with given the patchwork culture called the EU, Western Culture. You "get it" but how many other FREEDOM fighters with 200+ years of heritage on the continent get it?
Well, they've already defeated themselves.
We do have our own civil war looming as well.
Seems clear to me that Russia is using Iran as their big stick. Their carrot is energy. Russia is still fighting WWII. Their May Day parade is back.
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