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Could Europe defeat Iran?
01/19/2008 | WesternCulture

Posted on 01/19/2008 1:19:16 PM PST by WesternCulture

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1 posted on 01/19/2008 1:19:20 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Below, some clips feauturing interesting Swedish military technology.

Gotland, the stealth sub:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khaa3y0i87s

—— Reporter: “- As an adversary, how good are you at what you do?”

Swede: “- Very, very good.” ——

Personally, I’m not in doubt.

Visby, the stealth corvette:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHJFqwmFnkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWuLzpufxcM

The JAS “most bang for the buck” Gripen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBQttI1s5eA

The American-British-Swedish Excalibur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S24QGtx6dJY&feature=related

But, admittedly, some Swedes who are entrusted with tanks ought to take driving lessons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7cebE-sJc8

A nice tribute to USAF as well as the spirit Astrid Lindgren, mother of Pippi Longstocking as well as hundreds of other literary characters, has provided generations of Swedish children with (the song is from a movie based on her books about Emil of Maple Hill which are not as widely known as those about PL)

BUT, is the will of Sweden/Europe really there??


2 posted on 01/19/2008 1:20:32 PM PST by WesternCulture
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The answer is an emphatic yes, Europe can use that red phone to call the President and negotiate with the Congress to task the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines to defeat the Islamic Republic of Iran.


3 posted on 01/19/2008 1:23:09 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: WesternCulture

Iran is.

Europe is not.

By the time agreement on action was reached, they will be dead


4 posted on 01/19/2008 1:24:03 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: WesternCulture

SORRY, FORGOT TO INCLUDE THE USAF TRIBUTE LINK!!!!

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAi-N_zcGik


5 posted on 01/19/2008 1:26:28 PM PST by WesternCulture
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In the short term, No, because it won’t be just Iran, but a block of militant turned countries from Afghanistan across North Africa moving north, as well as controlling the energy that Europe needs and fifth columns within.

In the long term, Yes. I think Europe will be pushed to the brink, and then the will to fight “all for one and one for all” will return and the invaders will be routed.


6 posted on 01/19/2008 1:28:17 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: dufekin

“The answer is an emphatic yes, Europe can use that red phone to call the President and negotiate with the Congress to task the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines to defeat the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

- Well, if all of us was like Chirac that would probably be the case.


7 posted on 01/19/2008 1:28:30 PM PST by WesternCulture
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Love those tanks, WC!

You are truly a minority in Europe that you want to defend the Western culture than Muslim animals want to destroy. God bless ya...but your pc continental comrades wont allow freedom to reign, unfortunately.


8 posted on 01/19/2008 1:29:05 PM PST by max americana
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Could Europe defeat Iran?

Maybe the wrong question. Europe has no intention of defeating anybody.

Better: “Could Europe give Iran a Time-Out?”

Answer: “Absolutely.”

Next Question: “Would a Time-Out on Iran do any good?”

Answer: “No.”


9 posted on 01/19/2008 1:33:34 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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“By the time agreement on action was reached, they will be dead”

- Yes and all that is needed in order to accomplish such an agreement is 400 consecutive EU summits :)


10 posted on 01/19/2008 1:34:40 PM PST by WesternCulture
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Sure Europe can take on Islamofacism and win. I think that is generally what you are asking.
But first Europeans must be pushed to the precipice before she will come together and act.
Europe does well with its back against the wall. NOt to quick initially though.
Family came from Northeast Sewden, Nordquist.


11 posted on 01/19/2008 1:38:33 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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They would have to do several things to get ready. At present they do not have the personnel or the transportation to win. Nor do they have the quantity of weapons needed. After the fall of the USSR it has been on a downward slide and their presence in Afghanistan is about all they have. Just my opinion of course.
12 posted on 01/19/2008 1:38:46 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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The more of you that decide to look up and check the actual horizon and begin to relearn how to differentiate between friend and foe, the better.

Keep singing. Someone’s listening. You never know where you’re planting the seeds of discontent for submission to those who wish you and yours destroyed.

Don’t let the idjits get you down. But, also, be ready to stand on your own if it comes to that.

Get loud. Get mean. Help those around you turn their fear into rage.


13 posted on 01/19/2008 1:39:54 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Could Europe defeat Iran?

No. Of course you have the industrial capacity. But war is not won by production schedules it's won by WILL. And Europe does not have the WILL to fight. It's that simple.
14 posted on 01/19/2008 1:40:25 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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If I had Sarkozy’s *bride to be* and thought she was in any danger, I’d fire off a nuke to save her. (and Europe)


15 posted on 01/19/2008 1:45:23 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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I love Europe and much of it’s culture and food, wine, etc., but defending themselves? When have they ever done that?

I’d love for them to finally get tough about defending themselves and their great culture and accomplishments, but I have my doubts.

It’s not really just Europe, it’s about Western civilization, all the PC and “multicultural” baloney vs the total insanity of Islamofruitcakeism fascism/Nazism, etc.

It’s about the future of civilization on the entire planet and the history of the civbililzed world.

It’s light and reason against darkness and death and insanity


16 posted on 01/19/2008 1:51:39 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Grimmy; WesternCulture
The more of you that decide to look up and check the actual horizon and begin to relearn how to differentiate between friend and foe, the better.

Good post, Grimmy. You'll have to survive a higher percentage of internal enemies in your backyard and ways to deal with given the patchwork culture called the EU, Western Culture. You "get it" but how many other FREEDOM fighters with 200+ years of heritage on the continent get it?

17 posted on 01/19/2008 1:52:13 PM PST by PGalt
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To: WesternCulture
Could Europe defeat Iran?

Well, they've already defeated themselves.

18 posted on 01/19/2008 1:56:06 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: PGalt

We do have our own civil war looming as well.


19 posted on 01/19/2008 2:01:53 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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(whatever the role of NATO/USA/Russia would be in such a conflict)

Seems clear to me that Russia is using Iran as their big stick. Their carrot is energy. Russia is still fighting WWII. Their May Day parade is back.

20 posted on 01/19/2008 2:04:17 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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