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Senior Saudi prince offers Israel peace vision [Lays out terms of surrender]
YNet ^ | Jan. 20, 2008

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:05:24 AM PST by Alouette

Prince Turki al-Faisal, adviser to King Abdullah, says if Israel accepts Arab League plan and signs comprehensive peace, 'one can imagine the integration of Israel into the Arab geographical entity'

Reuters Published: 01.20.08, 15:15 / Israel News

A senior Saudi royal has offered Israel a vision of broad cooperation with the Arab world and people-to-people contacts if it signs a peace treaty and withdraws from all occupied Arab territories.

In an interview with Reuters, Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former ambassador to the United States and Britain and adviser to King Abdullah, said Israel and the Arabs could cooperate in many areas including water, agriculture, science and education.

Asked what message he wanted to send to the Israeli public, he said: "The Arab world, by the Arab peace initiative, has crossed the Rubicon from hostility towards Israel to peace with Israel and has extended the hand of peace to Israel, and we await the Israelis picking up our hand and joining us in what inevitably will be beneficial for Israel and for the Arab world."

The 22-nation Arab League revived at a Riyadh summit last year a Saudi peace plan first adopted in 2002 offering Israel full normalisation of relations in return for full withdrawal from occupied Palestinian, Syrian and Lebanese land.

Israel shunned the offer then, at the height of a violent Palestinian uprising in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

But it has expressed more interest since the United States launched a new drive for Israeli-Palestinian peace at Annapolis, Maryland, last November, aiming for an agreement this year.

Prince Turki, who was previously head of Saudi intelligence, said that if Israel accepted the Arab League plan and signed a comprehensive peace, "one can imagine the integration of Israel into the Arab geographical entity".

"One can imagine not just economic, political and diplomatic relations between Arabs and Israelis but also issues of education, scientific research, combating mutual threats to the inhabitants of this vast geographic area," he said.

'His remarks should encourage Israelis and Arabs' His comments, on the sidelines of a conference on the Middle East and Europe staged by Germany's Bertelsmann Foundation think-tank, were some of the most far-reaching addressed to Israelis by a senior figure from Saudi Arabia.

The desert kingdom, home to Islam's holiest shrines, has no official relations with the Jewish state, although both are key allies of the United States in the region.

"Exchange visits by people of both Israel and the rest of the Arab countries would take place," Prince Turki said.

"We will start thinking of Israelis as Arab Jews rather than simply as Israelis," he said, noting that many Arabs historically saw the Israeli state as a European entity imposed on Arab land after World War Two.

Prince Turki, brother of Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal, holds no official position now but heads the King Faisal Centre for Research and Islamic Studies in Riyadh.

He said Israel could expect some benefits on the way to signing a treaty and making a full withdrawal, noting that after the 1993 Oslo interim accords with the Palestine Liberation Organisation, regional cooperation had begun and the Jewish state had achieved representation in several Arab states.

Those Israeli advances were reversed after the outbreak of the second Palestinian uprising in 2000.

Israel was wary of the Arab League plan partly because it would entail handing back the Syrian Golan Heights captured in the 1967 Middle East war, as well as re-dividing Jerusalem, of which Israel annexed the captured Arab eastern part in 1967.

But an Israeli participant at the conference, Yossi Alpher, co-editor of the Bitter Lemons Israeli-Palestinian Web site and a former senior intelligence official, welcomed the comments.

"I was delighted to hear Prince Turki's description of the comprehensive nature of normalisation as he envisages it within the framework of the Arab peace initiative," Alpher said.

"His remarks should encourage us Israelis and Arabs to deepen and broaden the discussion of ways to reach a comprehensive peace, implement the Arab peace initiative and reach the kind of cooperation that his highness described."

Alpher said he hoped that once there was a comprehensive peace, Israel's Arab neighbours would accept Israelis "as Jewish people living a sovereign life in our historic homeland" and not as "Arab Jews" or "European Jews".


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: sheik yerbouty
Both stolen from the “Exodus” movie poster...

Some similiarity, but I don't think the producers of Exodus provided advisors to either, as the IRG did and does for Hezbollah. For one thing, there is no globe, signifying a "Global Struggle" or "Global Jihad" on the Exodus poster.


83 posted on 01/20/2008 10:52:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I specifically meant the picture in the lower right hand corner..


84 posted on 01/20/2008 11:37:51 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Yehuda; Ezekiel
one can imagine the disintegration of Israel into the Arab geographical entity

You know that's what he's thinking.

85 posted on 01/20/2008 11:59:11 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Yehuda

Whoa there killer. Take your thorazine.


86 posted on 01/21/2008 12:30:47 AM PST by ketsu
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To: ketsu

My point is that Israel gets rockets daily from Gaza today. Tomorrow it will get barrages from West Bank and Golan.....If Israel is dumb enough to give them up. No Arabs will rein in Palestinian rocket attacks.


88 posted on 01/21/2008 3:50:12 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
My point is that Israel gets rockets daily from Gaza today. Tomorrow it will get barrages from West Bank and Golan.....If Israel is dumb enough to give them up. No Arabs will rein in Palestinian rocket attacks.
I think you don't realize how much the saudi plan changes the reality of the ME. Hamas needs support from Syria and implicit support from Sunnis in Egypt. Without either of these things the missile attacks stop. It recasts the war from a Arab/western conflict to a Sunni/shi'ite one. Which is in the west's best interests.

Another thing to note, Hamas is a sunni organization. They take support from Iran and Hizbollah because they have to. Like Syria's alliance with Iran, Hamas' allegiance to Iran is very weak.
89 posted on 01/21/2008 5:50:29 PM PST by ketsu
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To: Yehuda
its your and your saudi and jino friends’ plans that kill people.

Maybe you should try some of that jim jones koolaid yourself before more decent people die for your delusions.
How do you post wearing a straightjacket? Do you have one of those "unicorn" things to use the keyboard?
90 posted on 01/21/2008 5:51:53 PM PST by ketsu
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To: Alouette

Along with an explanation that when they won the 1967 war and took the sinai peninsula from Egypt, (an area 3 times larger than Israel), and GAVE IT BACK; in the next war with the arabs when Israel captures an area remarkably similar in location and the size of say Saudia Arabia, they won’t give IT back!


93 posted on 01/21/2008 10:59:18 PM PST by tpanther
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To: farmer18th

Don’t you mean rabid jackals or hyenas?


94 posted on 01/21/2008 11:07:18 PM PST by tpanther
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To: ketsu

Things just take time...

You mean sooner or later they’ll move on from the 7th century and join the rest of us?


95 posted on 01/21/2008 11:08:37 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Alouette

Whew, finally a chance for peas in our thyme.


96 posted on 01/21/2008 11:11:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Yehuda

THAT is going to leave a mark!


97 posted on 01/21/2008 11:16:19 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Yehuda

I’ve seen so many of these illogical contortions by leftist loon apologists it makes my head swim. “Saddam was secular” was most certainly one of them!

I saw Saddam in a uniform, I saw Saddam in a scarf, I saw Saddam dressed like Al Capone.

Saddam was whatever he would have useful idiots believe at that moment.

I actually got into an argument with a moonbat loon that said Saddam never had wmd’s and that Rumsfeld sold him wmd’s, IN THE VERY SAME PARAGRAPH!


98 posted on 01/21/2008 11:22:56 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Alouette; sheik yerbouty; Yehuda; dennisw; M. Espinola

Memo to “prince” Al-Turki: Kindly go and kiss my Dixie tailpipe!


99 posted on 01/22/2008 4:40:15 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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