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No Conservatives Please - The Writing on the Wall in South Carolina
NewsByUs ^ | JB Williams

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:14:31 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

The Writing on the Wall in South Carolina - Thompson didn’t fail the Republican Party. The Party that failed to present a conservative themselves, or support one even when conservatives drafted one, failed Thompson.

Shade tree political pundits, who worked around the clock to douse ice water on Fred Thompson’s conservative campaign for President, are busy with their “I told you so” follow-ups. For them, Thompson’s departure from the race is interpreted as hard proof that the candidate was indeed “too old,” “too unhealthy,” “too lazy” and “too disinterested” in winning or leading. But for those who know Fred best, those who drafted him and worked to support him, his departure confirms something quite different…something much worse.

Thompson is simply too Conservative

At a time in history when conservatives are referred to as only a “fringe” of the Republican Party, and when fundamental American values and principles are called “extreme right-wing ideas,” a truly conservative candidate can’t win.

Conservative candidates never do well in liberal strongholds like New Hampshire, where nearly 50 percent of all voters are registered Independent and even Republicans vote liberal, or Michigan, the labor union capitol of the United States. Losing in liberal stronghold states is no surprise; in fact, it’s more a confirmation of one’s conservative credentials.

But not so long ago, there was no such thing as “too conservative” for South Carolina and that’s why Thompson bet his farm on South Carolina. Due to how early primaries are scheduled in liberal leaning states, a conservative candidate must begin his quest for national office in South Carolina, the first traditionally conservative state to hold a primary.

The History Thompson knows too well

For any conservative (or Republican) to win a national election, he must unite at least two of the three primary branches of the Republican Party. History provides a vital lesson in this regard.

In 1980, even on the heels of a disastrous Carter administration, Ronald Reagan united the conservative base of the party, the evangelical wing of the party, fiscal, social and national security conservatives and still won the White House with only 50.7% of the popular vote.

In 1984, Reagan won a second term with 58.8% of the popular vote and a party more united than any time in the 20th Century.

In 1988, George HW Bush won on Reagan’s legacy and a promise to continue Reagan policies into the future. Less popular than Reagan, Bush still garnered 53.4% of the popular vote, with all branches of the Republican Party still intact.

In 1991, Bush approval ratings were at an all time high after successfully ejecting Iraq’s Hussein from Kuwait and pushing him from the Saudi border all the way back to Baghdad.

But by 1992, Bush had parted company with the conservative base of his party by compromising with Democrats in congress, breaking his “no new taxes” pledge and setting the federal government back on the path of growth and liberal fiscal irresponsibility.

Evangelicals were divided now, but the conservative base of the party walked away from Bush en masse and sided with fiscal conservative pie-chart candidate Ross Perot. Bush lost what otherwise would have been an easy re-election, dropping to only 37.4% of the popular vote, handing Bill Clinton the White House with only 43% of the popular vote, opposed by 57% of the nation.

In 1994, after Hillary Clinton’s failed attempts to socialize America’s medical industry, American conservatives seized control of both houses of congress in a landslide movement to block Democrats from socializing anything under Clinton. Led by Newt Gingrich’s platform of the boldest conservative policy initiatives in decades, the Contract with America, Republicans controlled congress for the first time in 40 years.

But again in 1996, the RNC powers put forth a less than fully conservative candidate, Bob Dole, who failed to reunite or inspire the primary branches of the party. Once again, with the party divided, Bill Clinton won re-election, this time with 49.2% of the popular vote.

In 2000, a born again evangelical from Texas with a prominent last name, promising to return the Republican Party to it’s conservative roots and reunite the conservative base with the evangelical wing, fiscal, social and national security conservatives, won the White House. But this time, voters in the conservative base were not fully sold, having been burnt by his father only a few years earlier, concerned over what he meant by “compassionate conservative.”

As a result, Bush 43 actually lost the popular national vote by over a half million voters. He got lucky, winning the Electoral College vote, namely in Florida, by less than 600 votes in the end.

Seven months following his inauguration, 9/11 happened. The conservative base, evangelicals and national security hawks were once again fully united and in 2004, Bush won his bid for re-election by more than 3 million voters.

Unfortunately, by 2006 however, Bush 43 with the help of a do-nothing Republican Congress once again turned on both the conservative base and evangelicals, and the nation came to understand that “compassionate conservative” meant “amnesty for illegals”, open borders at a time of war against terrorism, apologetic national security and war planning, record social spending, record deficits and a declining dollar.

Base conservatives and evangelicals were furious and they demonstrated their frustration with liberal Republican leadership by removing incumbent Republicans from power and returning control of both houses of congress over to Democrats.

In 2008, History is poised to Repeat

Fred Thompson was the only complete traditional conservative in the race for the White House in 2008. Giuliani is a national security hawk, but otherwise, as liberal as the average Democrat voter. Romney and Huckabee talk tough on security, but oppose many of the measures needed to provide for national security and both have a less than conservative fiscal and social resume.

McCain can actually be accused of almost single handedly causing the Republican bloodbath of 2006. McCain opposes Gitmo, interrogation of known terrorists, many Patriot Act policies that have already resulted in a safer America. He opposed Bush’s tax cuts and led the charge for Campaign Finance Reform, some of which has already been ruled “unconstitutional” by the Supreme Court and his failed agenda of Amnesty for illegal aliens.

Divided Still

In order for any conservative (or Republican) to win a national election, they must have the ability to reunite the same branches of the party that Reagan united in 1980 and 1984, that Bush 41 kept intact for 1988, but fractured in 1992. The base branches of the party that Gingrich united in victory in 1994 and Bush 43 reunited in 2004 was fractured again in 2006 and remains fractured as we head into the 2008 election cycle.

The Writing on the Wall in South Carolina

Thompson had to win South Carolina. To do so, he had to have the support of base conservative, which he certainly had. But he also needed support from the evangelical wing, which is lined up behind Huckabee, and national security conservatives, which are divided between Giuliani and Romney. In the end, Thompson only had the support of the traditional conservative base that drafted him into the race. Thompson was unable to unite the other branched he needed to go forward and if they would not unite in South Carolina, they would not unite at all.

So, John McCain, the man who was almost single handedly responsible for the 2006 blood bath, emerged from South Carolina the victor.

Like his win in New Hampshire, his win in South Carolina was not the result of core conservatives, evangelicals, national security, fiscal or social conservative, all of whom remain divided between the other candidates. McCain won in New Hampshire and South Carolina with Independent voters.

South Carolina Democrats have even endorsed a man named Barack “Hussein” Obama, who is left of Hillary Clinton, in case you thought that wasn’t possible, who has no résumé of real accomplishment, political or otherwise, and who unlike Hillary, really will cut-n-run from the very real war against international Islamic terror.

No Conservatives Please

We know that the liberal northeast will only support the most liberal Republicans in any race. But South Carolina has in the past stuck to their conservative roots and advanced the most conservative candidates. Not this time…

This time, like the rest of the country, South Carolina failed to unite behind a conservative and instead, divided, they advanced the most liberal Republican in the race, John “amnesty” McCain.

Set in Stone

Thompson knows history and politics well enough to know that a conservative loss in South Carolina means a conservative loss across the divided plains. Thompson’s decision to depart the race was made not by Thompson, but by South Carolina voters.

History is set to repeat and Thompson saw it big time in South Carolina.

Thompson had core conservatives. But evangelicals are locked over behind Pastor Huckabee. Rudy has social liberals who are tough on crime and terrorism. Romney has the fiscally conservative Mormon vote and true moderates and Independents are with McCain.

That spells - no conservative for 2008 and most likely, no Republican as well.

Thompson has listened to the voice of the people who do not want conservative leadership in 2008. That’s why he’s out of the race.

Conservative voters are now stuck with a decision they have had to make for several years now. A choice between supporting a slow march to the left under a Republican, or supporting the “shock treatment” of allowing voters to realize the consequences of supporting only left-leaning candidates.

Many Thompson supporters vow to vote for Thompson in their primary anyway. I will likely join them in that statement!

But with no conservative in the race, electing a conservative in November is a literal impossibility. Conservatives can only vote against a candidate. There is no candidate to vote for… The sole conservative in the race did not fail Republicans. Republicans failed him.

And history repeats again. This time, for all the marbles!


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To: PlainOleAmerican
Horsefeathers. The problem in S.C. is the conservative vote was too divided, among Romney, Thompson and the Huckster (a lot of folks haven't figured out yet how he governed in Arkansas).

IMHO, a true conservative, Jeb Bush, would have run away with the nomination this year, but for the fact his now rather unpopular brother is in the White House.

41 posted on 01/29/2008 10:03:46 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: PlainOleAmerican
A choice between supporting a slow march to the left under a Republican, or supporting the “shock treatment” of allowing voters to realize the consequences of supporting only left-leaning candidates.

Looks like we're in for a shock.

42 posted on 01/29/2008 10:03:59 AM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: meandog

David Duke was a Dem until he switched to Republican because there was a better chance of winning in their open primary that way with so many other Dems on the ballot. Bloomburg pretty much the same reason.


43 posted on 01/29/2008 10:05:31 AM PST by GeronL
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To: PlainOleAmerican; fieldmarshaldj
With the last Conservative gone, “None of the above” for President.

I wonder what Duncan (RNC chair) and his buddies are saying. "The conservative voters will never let Hilary get in, or a Black man either. Don't worry, they'll vote for our RINO."

Is that what they're banking on?

44 posted on 01/29/2008 10:07:19 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I hope the GOP will enjoy this object lesson in what happens when you abandon conservative principles. Because a Dem is going to win in 2008. Why? Because all the GOP candidates are RINOS on par with Bob Dole.


45 posted on 01/29/2008 10:10:02 AM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: colorado tanker

Jeb...a true conservative?

You say “horsefeathers” then go on to confirm what the column lays out very well, that NO candidate is able to unite the three primary legs of the party.

Evangelicals are voting for their Pastor-in-Chief

Fiscal conservative are supporting their Businessman-in-Chief

National security hawks like the 911 Mayor-in-Chief

And liberals and Independents like their McStain-in-Chief

Thompson only had the conservative base of the party with him, which appears to indeed be only a “fringe” of the party now, rather than the ideological core.

After a family tradition of backstabbing conservatives seen in 41 and 43, one thing we damn sure don’t need is another Bush...


46 posted on 01/29/2008 10:12:33 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Lijahsbubbe

That’s what they have banked on for thirty years now...

2006 might be a glimpse into how bankable that notion is today...


47 posted on 01/29/2008 10:14:21 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: polymuser

“Republican” is no longer part of my vocabulary. Well, that was the last time.


48 posted on 01/29/2008 10:14:45 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Centurion2000

Now that’s a slap in the face of Bob Dole...

Even Dole was not as bad as our current crop.


49 posted on 01/29/2008 10:15:43 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Thompson quit, and it's all your fault!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

*sheesh* This guy sounds like my 4-year-old.

50 posted on 01/29/2008 10:16:31 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: TChris

It’s important to record history, so that some can learn from history...

At least I can have hope for your four year old.


51 posted on 01/29/2008 10:18:21 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Jeb Bush governed as a conservative in Florida, unlike Crisp, and was very successful. But for his name, IMHO, he would have united the party behind a conservative candidate.
52 posted on 01/29/2008 10:18:58 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Centurion2000

Bob Dole wasn’t a liberal, and you could at least vote for him in good conscience as a veteran. Having Bob Dole now would be a step up against the rest of the current field.


53 posted on 01/29/2008 10:22:07 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Amen!


54 posted on 01/29/2008 10:24:37 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: colorado tanker

George governed as a conservative in Texas too. He was elected and re-elected on that basis, only to stab conservatives in the back when he was going to run for office no more...

Jeb wasn’t ever in the race. Fred was, and he was the only one with the ability to unite all branches of the party, had it not been so fractured between so many single issue ideologues in the race.


55 posted on 01/29/2008 10:26:41 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I don’t know how Dole can be legitimately classified as a bonafide RINO. While he wasn’t as Conservative as Jesse Helms, he was in the 90s with his ACU ratings in his final years in the Senate. He was also the first to pioneer an unapologetically pro-life candidacy in his 1974 Senate reelection. He was certainly more Conservative than McCain and I didn’t hesistate supporting him in 1996. These 4 leading RINO asshats today are all degrees of liberal or trending that way, rhetoric aside (since not a single word of their rhetoric matches their records).


56 posted on 01/29/2008 10:27:58 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lijahsbubbe
It probably is what they're banking on, and they're going to be in for a shock. With so many FReepers putting up blinders and championing the worst liberal RINO of the 4 "contenders" (Romney), I saw at least one article with a poll showing him losing in a landslide against Hillary (16%). I will be mighty surprised if our RINO gets somewhere between what Bush, Sr. got in '92 (about 37%) or Dole in '96 (about 41%).
57 posted on 01/29/2008 10:35:33 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Bob Dole wasn’t a liberal, and you could at least vote for him in good conscience as a veteran.

Good point, but he didn't get the GOP moving like Reagan could .... make sense?

58 posted on 01/29/2008 10:41:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’d say your prediction is correct...

People willing to vote for anyone in opposition to any democrat will number 37% to maybe as much as even 45% of the popular vote.

The RINOs have a better chance against Hillary than against Obama I’m afraid. And I consider Obama to be the more dangerous of the two.


59 posted on 01/29/2008 10:43:44 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Centurion2000

Correct... he failed to unite and ignite the party faithful, just as all remaining candidates are doomed to repeat here.


60 posted on 01/29/2008 10:44:52 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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