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Retired Green Beret shoots intruder, gets court martial
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Posted on 01/30/2008 9:00:28 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

BREVARD, Jan. 19, 2008 - Retired Army Green Beret James T. (Smokey) Taylor got his court martial this weekend and came away feeling pretty good about it. Taylor, at age 79, is one of the oldest members of Chapter XXXIII (The Larry Thorne Chapter) of the Special Forces Association.He was placed on trial by fellow Chapter XXXIII members under the charge of “failing to use a weapon of sufficient caliber” in the shooting of an intruder at his home in Knoxville , TN , in November.

The court martial, of course, was very much tongue in cheek. The event itself was deadly serious. Taylor had been awakened in the early morning hours of November 5, 2007,when an intruder broke into his home. He investigated the noises with one of his many weapons in hand. “It was just after Halloween, on Monday morning at 4:30,” Taylor said. I heard this commotion at the door and grabbed my fishing gun, a little .22 revolver, to see what was going on. I got to the front door and this fellow had ripped my security door out of its frame. He said, ‘you’re going to have to kill me. I’m coming in.’”

When a warning to leave went unheeded, Taylor brought his .22 caliber pistol to bear and shot him right between the eyes. “I was about four feet away from him when I shot,” Taylor said. “Looking back now, I’m glad he didn’t die, but that boy had the hardest head I’ve ever seen. The bullet bounced right off.” The impact knocked the would-be thief down momentarily. He crawled out of the house then got up and ran down the street. Taylor dialed 911 and Knoxville police apprehended the wounded man about 200 yards away, hiding in a hedgerow.

Complicating the case, as well as the court martial, the offender was released on bail but failed to appear for his court date. Knoxville police said the man was homeless. They did not know his whereabouts or why he had been given bail. The charges brought against Taylor by his fellow Green Berets were considered to be serious. He is a retired Special Forces Weapons Sergeant with extensive combat experience during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. “Charges were brought against him under the premise that he should have saved the county and taxpayers the expense of a trial,” said Chapter XXXIII President Bill Long of Asheville , NC.

The trial was held at the Hampton Inn in Brevard, part of the group’s regularly scheduled quarterly meeting. Long appointed a judge, Bert Bates, a defense counsel, Jim Hash, and a prosecutor, Charlie Ponds. All are retired Special Forces non-commissioned officers with extensive combat and weapons experience. Ponds outlined the case against Taylor , emphasizing that the citizens of Knox County were going to be burdened with significant costs to again apprehend, and then prosecute and defend the would-be burglar.

“Proper choice of a larger caliber gun would have spared the citizens this financial burden,” Ponds said, “while removing one bad guy from the streets for good. He could have used a .45 or .38. The .22 just wasn’t big enough to get the job done. Hash disagreed. He said Taylor had done the right thing in choosing to arm himself with a 22. “If he’d used a .45 or something like that the round would have gone right through the perp, the wall, the neighbor’s wall and possibly injured some innocent child asleep in its bed. I believe the evidence shows that Smokey Taylor exercised excellent judgment in his choice of weapons. He clearly remains to this day an excellent weapons man.”

Hash then floated a theory as to why the bullet bounced off the perp’s forehead. “He was victimized by old ammunition,” he said, “just as he was in Korea and again in Vietnam , when his units were issued ammo left over from World War II.” Taylor said nothing in his own defense, choosing instead to allow his peers to debate the matter. The jury, consisting of all the members of the Chapter, discussed the merits of choosing a larger caliber weapon as well as the obvious benefits to society of permanently deleting the intruder so he would never again threaten any private citizen. The other side of the coin, that of accidentally causing injury to a completely innocent citizen if a more powerful gun had been used, also gained considerable support.

Following testimony from both sides, Judge Bates determined the charges should be dismissed. The decision was met with a round of applause. In fact, there was strong sentiment expressed that Taylor should receive an award for not only choosing wisely in picking up the 22, but for the accuracy of his aim under difficult and dangerous conditions. After the trial Taylor said the ammunition was indeed old and added the new information that the perp had soiled his pants as he crawled out the door. “I would have had an even worse mess to clean up if it had gone through his forehead,” Taylor said. “It was good for both of us that it didn’t.” Meanwhile, back in Knox County , the word is out: Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.

[Tribune Editor Bill Fishburne is a member of the Larry Thorne Chapter XXXIII of the Special Forces Association. Hat tip Oswald Bastable’s Ranting.]

[Smokey Taylor]


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Dakota; US: Tennessee
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

I must have aimed high!


101 posted on 02/02/2008 12:40:07 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve
no reply is best...
102 posted on 02/02/2008 12:44:36 PM PST by potlatch ("Kindness is more important than wisdom, the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom" - Rubin)
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To: kiriath_jearim

He said, ‘you’re going to have to kill me. I’m coming in.’”

#1 on list of “Things NOT to say when beaking & entering”.


103 posted on 02/02/2008 1:19:32 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Go out on the Chesapeake and reel in a 3 foot Bluefish.

If you don’t have a gun, you’ll soon wish you did.


104 posted on 02/02/2008 1:22:46 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Salamander

Make that ‘bReaking”.

Sheesh.


105 posted on 02/02/2008 1:23:52 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

You can be a hero or a zero. Choose ye this day!


106 posted on 02/02/2008 1:24:13 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Yep - gotta rotate that old ammo.


107 posted on 02/02/2008 1:31:18 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: kiriath_jearim
.......Meanwhile, back in Knox County , the word is out: Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.

WTG! Mr. Taylor!

He should put up a sign saying:
Intruders Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!
lol

108 posted on 02/02/2008 1:32:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: kiriath_jearim

Smokey is way cool.


109 posted on 02/02/2008 1:36:28 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This really pisses me off! Why didn’t the group pass a collection plate to buy this hero a new .357 or .45 and a couple boxes of frangible defense ammo?!?!

Kudos to another brave veteran!


110 posted on 02/02/2008 1:41:01 PM PST by Tailback
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To: kiriath_jearim

Book ‘m Dano, and recycle his Ammo!!

Outstanding Story :-)


111 posted on 02/02/2008 1:51:55 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoanVarga

“Great story. Everyone knows that a .22 only serves to aggravate the delicate psychological balance of a situation. A .45, however, is single-session therapy.
-Joan”

A .22 LR will work, if you hit the assailant in the eye socket. However, that is a very difficult shot, especially under the stress of a combat situation.

A 9mm, a .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 Sig, will generally smash through to disrupt the central nervous system, effecting a permanent cure to violent criminal tendencies.

In revolvers, a .357 Mag, .41 Mag, or a .44 Mag will effect the same cure. I will grant the .44 is getting a bit heavy in recoil for rapid fire control, and there is a bit of a problem with over penetration.


112 posted on 02/02/2008 3:30:09 PM PST by punster
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I’d say that a .22 mag should bag that rag.


113 posted on 02/02/2008 3:32:24 PM PST by wizr (Whether you are a Christian or not, fight for your God given freedoms.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“Sure but we silly pilots were given a crappy 9mm and taught to shoot center-of-mass because of lack of penetration.”

Actually, standard combat training teaches to shoot for the center of mass, because it is a much better aiming point to achieve a solid body hit. If the round hits along the centerline, it may also smash the spine, which will end the fight.

However, there is a problem, if an assailant is wearing body armor. That is the reason for the Mozambique tactic.


114 posted on 02/02/2008 3:37:14 PM PST by punster
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To: Melas

I bet your right.

We punch holes through plywood regulary at 50 yards with .22 LR.


115 posted on 02/02/2008 3:58:02 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: Savage Beast
I drive by Mr. Adams's store every Monday night on my way to dog agility class. He's right at the corner of N. Decatur and L'ville Highway.

After this happened I stopped in to buy some stuff and congratulate him. I think a lot of other folks did too.

I wouldn't call it a middle class neighborhood though. If I called it "transitional" I would be being extra nice. It's right across the street from a decaying mall that has seen LOTS better days, surrounded by two-bit stores and vacant rental houses. Dog class is in a warehouse and people keep breaking in.

116 posted on 02/02/2008 3:59:49 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: usmcobra

FRiend, that’s not a weapon, that’s a PROPULSION system...


117 posted on 02/02/2008 3:59:50 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Next time you’re in there, tell him he’s got lots of fans all across America. I’m his #1.


118 posted on 02/02/2008 5:35:37 PM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: EarthBound

Hooah!


119 posted on 02/02/2008 6:12:33 PM PST by MacDorcha (Do you feel that you can place full trust in your obsevations of the physical world?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


120 posted on 02/02/2008 8:03:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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