Posted on 02/02/2008 8:52:25 PM PST by Fargo Rock
Something has been bothering me all week and I'm hoping someone here can make me understand. Since 2001, we've been calling the Democrats a party of surrender, anti-war, anti-troops, etc. McCain has his faults. There's no question about it. But why are people like Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce, Michelle Malkin and many here ready to hand over control of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the future of the War on Terror, and the care of our troops to Hillary Clinton? That's what will happen if people decide to either stay home or vote for Hillary in some kind of misguided moral protest. Don't our troops deserve better than that? It's throwing them to the wolves.
How have I been impolite? Please post anything I’ve said that you consider to be impolite.
Me too. One of them is bringing terrorists onto American soil because we close Gitmo. and it is one of the reasons I can't understand how people say McAmnesty is strong on WoT.
He wants to bring the known terrorists to our soil and our courts. he wants us to pay for their lawyers, and for those lawyers to demand we reveal our secret intelligence sources as part of the discovery process.
He wants to open our borders to lawbreakers of all sorts, including terrorists. And he wants to destroy our economy by bringing in illegals to lower wages, and raise taxes to support them, pay for their medical care, and pay for their education.
The way I see it, McCain wants us to pay for the destruction of our Nation, and there are some here who think it is OK, because he still has an "R" after his name. I suspect that is only because the demonrats knew he would be more destructive to the Republican party by staying in it, than by switching over as he wanted to.
Agree with you. The key words here are the Republican opposition will be more effective. With a RINO in office, we will be forever defending what we should be opposing. With a Democrat in office, the Republicans will be forced to rediscover their spine. The conservative movement will have a decent chance to rebuild and come back to prevail in 2010 and 2012.
And you are right when you say that electing RINOs sends the wrong message. Liberalism has to be sent packing from the Republican party. The Country Club Blue Bloods need to be put back in their place. Reaganism must prevail.
I do not like McCain, but I will never, ever forget that Hillary is a vindictive personality who will use her power to go after anyone who gets in her way. Nor will I forget the humiliation the Clintons brought upon our country before and are all too likely to repeat. Only Mr. Clinton will have a whole lot more time and absolutely no responsibility to the voters for his disgusting activities. The MSM will cheer him on, while we watch dishonor once again taint our White House and our country.
McCain will get slaughtered. He will never have coat tails. He will self-destruct before the general and it will be a wipe out. Because of the slimy RINOs that infest the GOP, our party is about to be wiped out electorally.
See post 150 of this thread.
Print it out and hand to friends thinking of voting for McLame.
Ann was clearly toying with Hannity and Colmes, like a cat playing with mice. You could see in her eyes she was clearly enjoying herself. Quite devilish.
What would it be if I went onto a cut&run appeasement site and browbeat them into voting for Duncan Hunter because he was the republican? How would you feel if I came onto a WOT website and pushed Ron Paul or some appeaser who was the most likely republican nominee? It would be, very simply, impolite.
What you have done is come onto a conservative website (THIS IS NOT A GOP WEBSITE) and open up the browbeating over not supporting the likely republican anti-conservative nominee over your favorite issue.
Well said!
“Then how would you feel if the choice were some bozo like Bloomberg or Ron Paul vs. Hillary? The guy has no WOT credentials, so youd vote for Hillary?”
If it came to Bloomberg vs Hillary, I’d have to vote for Hillary because I know she won’t yank the troops out of Iraq before the job is finished. In fairness, I don’t know enough about Bloomberg to know his stand on the war.
“Thats how conservatives feel about the current choice. Its a republican anticonservative vs. a democrat anticonservative. If it were a cut & run appeaser republican vs. a cut & run appeaser democrat, how would you feel? About the same conservatives feel now.”
Yes, I’d feel frustrated. I never said I wouldn’t.
“Then, to top it off, a bunch of RINOs come onto this conservative site and try to browbeat us into supporting an anticonservative. What would it be if I went onto a cut&run appeasement site and browbeat them into voting for Duncan Hunter because he was the republican? It would be impolite, in the very least.”
You’re missing my entire point. I’m not telling anyone to vote for McCain because he’s a Republican. I never said that. If it turned out that Bloomberg decided to run and was going to be a hawk on the war, I would consider voting for him. It has NOTHING to do with McCain being a Republican.
Amazing. No wonder all these solid conservatives like Ann Coulter are getting frustrated.
I agree whole heartily. The RINOs will soon realize they gaming of conservatives is over.
It has NOTHING to do with McCain being a Republican.
***That doesn’t pass the smell test. If McCain weren’t the leader, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. There’s been thousands of terrible things said about McCain all along, and you could have opened such a thread at any point. What you write is a bunch of bull shiite.
If it came to Bloomberg vs Hillary, Id have to vote for Hillary because I know she wont yank the troops out of Iraq before the job is finished.
***Right there you should be able to understand invective against McCain. This is a conservative website and McCain has done his darndest to stab conservatism in the back. You can see it with Bloomberg vs. Hildebeast but not McCain. It’s probably because you are not a social conservative. If you are actually quite baffled by the responses you’re seeing then you need to read up on JimRob’s definition of conservative. It’s on the front page.
Ask yourselves the question: who is it voting for the madman in the primaries? If it’s republicans then they aren’t. Most of the primaries up to now have been poll driven and open to the fraud of dems registering and voting for McFraud. IT’S OUR PRIMARY PROCESS THAT IS BROKEN!! It allows a pack of idiots to start running way too early, win over the simple-minded through the polls that are pretty much rigged by the media and the dems to push the republican they want to run against. A vote for ANY democrat regardless of how rino the gop candidate is will be a vote against the survival of our constitution and republic.
Did you read the original post? Coulter, Malkin and Bruce only said that they’d support Hillary over the past couple of days. It would have been hard to ask a question based on something that hadn’t happened yet.
And I really don’t give a rat’s ass if it doesn’t pass your smell test. I think your tinfoil hat might be a bit too tight.
Longer than that. Adn tehy are. Adn McCain is no different. He may as well be a Dimmycrap, if he were the honest man he claims to be. Tehr's not a dime's worth of difference.
Karl Rove, is that you? Take the cotton out of your ears.
It was REPUBLICANS who gave us Earl Warren, William Brennan, Harry Blackmun, David Souter, John Paul Stevens, and the like.
REPUBLICANS appointed them, not Dimmycraps. And that is exactly the kind of judge that McLame would appoint, or worse, if there is such a thing as worse than those guys. Ther is no difference between the kidn of judges McVain would appoint and the kind Hitlery would appoint. Not one iota.
Isn't this fun?
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