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LIVE THREAD Super Tuesday 2008
5 February 2008

Posted on 02/05/2008 6:10:39 AM PST by SE Mom

Here we go...

The Democrat nominee needs 2,025 to win.

The Republican nominee needs 1,191 to win.

KEYWORDS: defeatmccain; elections; hillary; livethread; mcamnesty; primary; rino; supertuesday
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To: SE Mom

Whose idea was it to schedule Super Tuesday on Mardi Gras?

21 posted on 02/05/2008 6:23:29 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: SE Mom
I voted for Fred Thompson today at 6:22 am in New Jersey.

And it felt great.

I was so happy he was on the ballot.

Threw my vote away? Fine. Argue against me all you wish. I won't sell out to Flip Romney, McInsane, or the Huckster.

The GOP can go destroy itself now.

22 posted on 02/05/2008 6:23:43 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SE Mom
I've always wondered what the delegate count is based upon? Is it the same as the alloted numbers of Senators and representatives combined by state? If so, why the disparity between the parties? Hey, my students asked and I didn't know.
23 posted on 02/05/2008 6:23:56 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SE Mom

24 posted on 02/05/2008 6:24:11 AM PST by AliVeritas (The Christian satan warned you about.)
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To: SE Mom


25 posted on 02/05/2008 6:25:48 AM PST by Mercat (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't swim, can't fly, can't ski, but they know what's best for us.)
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To: All

Weather may affect the Ohio, Mississippi and Tennessee valley(s)... outbreak of severe storms expected...


26 posted on 02/05/2008 6:26:27 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: redtetrahedron

This is good info. We should e-mail it now to any friends who are in the above states.

27 posted on 02/05/2008 6:29:16 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Bi-partisanship: Democrats and RINOs working together to screw up the country)
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To: SE Mom


28 posted on 02/05/2008 6:29:46 AM PST by tapatio
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To: redtetrahedron

Only SUCKERS vote for Romney.

He is more liberal than McCain.

If you want to protest vote ... people should vote for Huckabee, Paul, or Apple Sauce.

Romney has supported everything (illegal immigration, campaign finance reform, against bush tax cuts, etc.) that everyone complains about here! Also, he even criticized McCain just in Florida for McCain voting against Medicare Rx (a vote McCain got right).

Don’t let Romney take conservative voters as FOOLS

29 posted on 02/05/2008 6:30:01 AM PST by bluebeak
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To: SE Mom

Consider these scenarios:

Mitt and Ann Romney at the podium on inaugural day in Washington, D.C. or John and Cindy McCain?

Barack and Michelle Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton?

As I envision this, there is no question for me who the first couple should be.

I’ll take the values couple.

30 posted on 02/05/2008 6:32:48 AM PST by varina davis
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To: SE Mom; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...

PING for the live thread. Thanks for starting this thread, Mom.

31 posted on 02/05/2008 6:32:55 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (HEAR THIS! I am NOT pro McCain....I AM anti-Romney.)
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To: bluebeak
Here...I found this on the floor. I think it must be yours.

You really oughta lay off that stuff. It's bad for you.

32 posted on 02/05/2008 6:33:11 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Barring something bordering on miraculous, I’ll still need the clothespin to vote come Nov.

33 posted on 02/05/2008 6:33:38 AM PST by sweet_diane (207 days to kickoff! Roll Tide ROLL ! (Now the #1 recruiting class in the country!))
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To: SE Mom

Caught the six a.m. (8 a.m. eastern) segment of F&F. Discussing Dole’s letter to Limbaugh and how McCain was SOOO conservative compared to Jesse Helms votes back when Dole was in the Senate. Now Dole hasn’t been a senator since 1996 and in the intervening twelve years, McCain has gone sharply to the left. But not a mention of that by the esteemed F&F staff. I was seething and out of courtesy to the dog, didn’t yell or scream or hit the TV with my glass of OJ.

34 posted on 02/05/2008 6:33:45 AM PST by CedarDave (What is the difference between Britney Spears and John McCain? Nothing, they're both crazy)
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To: SE Mom
Did anyone see what the FOX news network just aired?

First they showed Hillary as she, Bill, and Chelsea left the polls and what she said to reporters. THEN, not as a paid ad...but as part of the on-the-spot interview just aired ..they ran the clip of her tearful, comment along the campaign trail in the restaurant where she said how she worried about America and didn't want to see it go down the drain. You remember: That "softer" side of Hillary she was told to project - so she teared up. I guess they figure she needed a boost with that image, it worked before. They could have run any clip, (or better yet, none) but they ran the one that brought out the sympathetic vote for her. Just the ticket Hillary wanted from FOX today!

Now don't tell me that FOX is not supporting Hillary, Murdoch's girl, and is "Fair and Balanced." FOX wants a Hillary-McCain race and they have employed every covert trick to achieve that.

35 posted on 02/05/2008 6:33:50 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: tndarlin
Fred Thompson was still on the ballot here in Okla. sorely tempted to vote for him, but McCain must be stopped.

Same in TN, but I voted for Romney.

Dittos in Arizona. Go Romney!

36 posted on 02/05/2008 6:34:38 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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Reading tea leaves in Delaware, Montana, and West Virginia

A Campaign Spot reader calls my attention to a couple of numbers for the GOP race in those lesser-watched states, with fewer delegates.

1) ARG did a poll in Delaware that put McCain up 41 to 35 over Romney. Huckabee 7, Paul 5.

Back in October of last year, Fairleigh Dickinson University did a poll, that had Giuliani 37, McCain 14, “Thomson” [sic] 13, Romney 10.

2) The reader notes,

Montana is holding what’s essentially a party leader caucus tomorrow. Rank-and-file Republicans can’t vote. Any poll of the state wouldn’t necessarily tell us much. But Mason-Dixon did poll the state back in December. It had a very small sample, but showed Huckabee leading by 1 - Huckabee 16 percent, Giuliani 15 percent, Romney 13 percent, Thompson 12 percent, McCain 5 percent, Paul 4 percent.

3) “West Virginia selects 18 delegates at their convention, not 9. And they all go to the majority winner statewide, not by CD. (The other 9 delegates are selected in a May primary, 3 each to the winner of WV’s 3 CDs).”

West Virginia will have the first results today - perhaps as early as 12:30 p.m. The AP notes:

Romney and Huckabee each plan to appeal personally for the 18 national delegates up for grabs at the convention, their campaigns said Monday.

Ron Paul announced earlier that he would also attend the Charleston convention. Front-runner John McCain is sending former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer to speak on his behalf.

02/05 09:11 AM

37 posted on 02/05/2008 6:36:07 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bluebeak

“... people should vote for Huckabee, Paul, or Apple Sauce.”


38 posted on 02/05/2008 6:36:38 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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39 posted on 02/05/2008 6:39:19 AM PST by SkyPilot
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By Mike Allen on February 5, 2008 @ 7:55 AM

BOSTON — Good Super, Monster, Tsunami, Super-Duper, Fat Tuesday. And happy Mardi Gras.

Chelsea Clinton kicked off the family get-out-the-vote effort at 5:45 a.m. by delivering coffee and donut holes to poll workers and voters at the New Haven (Conn.) fire department. Attention ABC and NBC producers: Your Hartford/New Haven affiliates have b-roll.

Asked about her husband on “Letterman” last night, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said: “Look, in my White House, we will know who wears the pants suits.”

Dave complimented her on being “dressed in red-state red.”

Clinton is hoarse from marathon campaigning, but invoked the Giants’ upset as she quipped: “Every New Yorker has a sore throat after last night.”

TODAY’S TALKER: Clearly hoping the radio host will lay off Sen .John McCain, Bob Dole wrote Rush Limbaugh yesterday to say: “Whoever wins the Republican nomination will need your enthusiastic support. Two terms for the Clintons are enough.”

The banner headline in the Denver Post: “Races in states of frenzy: From coast to coast, in person and on TV, candidates dash for today’s votes in 24 states”: “Colorado, along with 23 other states, is a player in ‘Super Tuesday,’ the closest thing to a national primary the country has ever seen.”

Tonight, Sen. Clinton is in New York City, Sen. Barack Obama is in Chicago, Sen. McCain is in Phoenix, Gov. Mitt Romney is in Boston and Gov. Mike Huckabee is in Little Rock.

ABC will be on the air through all of prime time with “Showdown: Coast to Coast” - continuing on “Nightline” turf for five straight hours, all together.

CBS’s Katie Couric, who had one-on-one’s last night with ALL five major candidates, will anchor coverage from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern, complete with a cool election-night-style set. (”SportsCenter” meets “Evening News.”) posted transcripts of the interviews.

NBC is offering an hour-long edition of “Nightly,” and a Brian Williams “Super Tuesday Special” at 10.

BOB WOODWARD can be seen on tonight.

This is cool: C-SPAN 2 will simulcast live election from CBS News Radio, accompanied live results graphics.

The POTUS ‘08 channel on XM satellite radio has an hour-long “High Definition Politics with TAMMY HADDAD” at 6 p.m. Eastern. The gang’s all here: Jessica Yellin, Todd Harris, Bob Shrum, Alexandra Stoddard, even Mikey Allen. Election anchor and program director is Joe Mathieu.

ZEITGEIST 1: USA Today’s cover story is, “Economy’s slide has voters on edge: Americans’ rising anxiety ‘a clear plus for the Democrats.’ “ (So says Greg Valliere, chief political strategist for the Stanford Financial Group.) The jump hed: “Despite most pessimistic outlook since ‘92, many Americans see hope.”

ZEITGEIST 2: Gerald F. Seib’s “Capital Journal” column on the front of today’s Wall Street Journal calls this a character election: “As voting unfolds today on this Super Tuesday, the two hottest candidates at the moment — Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama — are most striking for their ability to appeal to independent voters in the middle of the ideological spectrum, and for their willingness to compromise to get there. In other words, the election of 2008, thus far, is less about ideology and ideas and more about governing style and leadership ability — intangible qualities on which voters are placing a higher priority than on issues.”

ZEITGEIST 3, from L.A. Times A1: College students are glum. “But in a paradox that intrigues analysts — and could well shape the election — they still feel inspired to vote.”

Page 12 of the print edition of today’s Politico sports a nifty “SUPER TUESDAY SCORECARD” showing poll closing times for each of today’s states, along with delegate info and the results of the 2000 nominating contests for Rs and the 2004 races for Ds.

Please e-mail playbook(at) if you’d like a PDF. Please write “Scorecard” in the subject line.

Also check out our two-page spread, “2008 Super Tuesday Preview.” (Thank you, Paige Connor!)

THE BIG QUESTIONS: Can Gov. Romney, whose staff is trying to show poise and endurance, stun Senator McCain, who’s running away nationally but faces some tightening polls in California? Or has the Straight Talk Express, once up on blocks, now found an express lane to the convention at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul?

Politico’s bicoastal Jonathan Martin: “If Mitt can win the caucus and convention states and pick up a good share of delegates in California, he’s got a rationale to go on. But without a solid showing in the Golden State it’s a lot tougher.”

Can Senator Clinton fulfill the convention wisdom of just a few weeks ago, that she would win more delegates today although Senator Obama is likely to win more states? Or is the fact that Obama raised more than twice as much money in January an indicator of new fundamentals in the race?

Obama had announced his $1M-a-day month — $32M for January. A little bird pointed out to Politico’s Ben Smith that Tim Russert teased a January figure of $13.5 million out Clinton Campaign Chairman Terry McAuliffe on MSNBC yesterday. Ben: “A lot of money by most measures, but less than half of what Obama’s claiming for the month.”

Politico’s Jeanne Cummings: “With the Republican presidential nomination within reach, John McCain is reshaping his campaign to press on without public financing that could limit his spring spending, senior advisers say. The Arizona senator’s rejection of the presidential public financing program he once defended is just the latest evidence of how ineffective the post-Watergate reform has become in an era of multimillion-dollar candidacies.”

40 posted on 02/05/2008 6:42:03 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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