Skip to comments.Smoky bar triggered fatal asthma attack
Posted on 02/10/2008 6:00:34 AM PST by justkillingtime
A woman in her late teens died from an acute asthma attack triggered by secondhand cigarette smoke shortly after arriving at her job as a waitress in a bar in Michigan, researchers reported on Friday.
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This is like the article from a few years back that claimed hundreds of heart attacks had not occurred because of a one month old smoking ban.
One whiff and you're a stiff!
The issue isn’t whether tobacco smoke can trigger an asthma attack (it can; so can chimney smoke and perfumes) but whether smoking should be banned in private places on that account. It irks me when people who are strong advocates for a position deny reality in order to support their position.
Unless she was the daughter of the owner; what was an underaged girl doing working in a bar? And with all the pre-warning junk out there; didn’t someone out there know about smoke and athsma or is this a real story or only set up by the Nazi smoker’s police.
I smell a really bogus story here. Wonder what the ME had to say on the death certificate.
The difference is that you have a choice to be in an environment filled with cigarette smoke, and don’t often have a choice to be in a pollen filled environment.
What is really interesting to me is how now no one can stand smokey places; yet back before the smoking police came along; no one seemed bothered at all by it.
You really do have to think about that?
Oh where to start. First of all, poorly treated asthma. IOW she didn’t take care of her asthma. Second, she had been working there for awhile with no problems. My DIL has acute asthma. She does not smoke and no one smokes around her. I have had to call an ambulance for her twice for asthma attacks. She has spent time in ICU for her asthma. No SHS involved. Anything could have triggered her attack. This is more propaganda bull. Its just a way to get a death certificate with the cause of death SHS to use for their own propaganda.
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my hubby has asthma.
He has two medicines...one he is supposed to puff on once a day as a maintenance sort of thing.
The other he uses when his chest feels tight.
The first medicine is supposed to reduce his reliance on the second.
It sounds like she was relying on the second type, and then only when it was too late.
There could also be a financial issue here too.
We recently changed pharmacies, and in the process there was one day where our insurance info had not made the switch.
I payed for my husband’s medicine out of pocket...one month’s worth was about $200.
I could see if you were struggling and had no insurance why you might be careful not to go through the inhalers too quickly.
Of course, working where there is smoke would increase your need for the inhaler.
I asked Sender ... "how do you do in "fresh" air filled with pollen?"
The point is, though you avoid areas you knowingly are allergic to, ie: those dreaded smokey bars you must inhabit the rest of the planet.
Now, if you have a genetic condition that precludes you from breathing "fresh" air, obviously you are in deep doo doo.
Of course, as the imurities found in "fresh" air are, no doubt, the fault of humans we should demand that the earth's air be filtered.
Perhaps the UN could do that, when they get the chance.
“Since the drinking age is 21, what is a 19-year-old (at most) doing working in a bar?”
Bingo.. first of all what was she doing there, Second of all.. if she had asthma SO BAD that a whiff of smoke would put her in an early grave.. what was she doing IN a bar instead of a plastic bubble.
Actually, back before smoking bans, we asthma patients were bothered by cigarette smoke in public places, sometimes very much. I had friends who would end up in an ambulance if they made the mistake of going to the wrong place. When I was young, I had many asthma attacks from cigarette smoke encountered in unexpected places.
The smoking bans do work for us. I remember going to Minnesota about 25 years ago, stepping off the plane, and being amazed and thrilled that there was no cigarette smoke in the airport--I could breathe and not gasp or wheeze!
But that absolutely does not mean that everyone should be inconvenienced because I had a problem. I am opposed to the smoke Nazis as much as any cigar afficionado is.
Finally, to some of the "she brought it on herself" posters on this thread:
Sometimes inhalers aren't powerful enough to fix a sudden, serious attack. Sometimes you lose or forget them. Sometimes they get clogged up and don't work.
Teenagers tend to think they're invincible, and when I was the age of this poor young lady I didn't even know it was possible to die of asthma. She may have taken the job because it worked with her school or childcare schedule. She must have thought she could handle it.
Some compassion, please, for a poor young girl who made a mistake! This forum is being taken over by the heartless.
“yet back before the smoking police came along; no one seemed bothered at all by it.”
I was bothered by it, so I just didn’t go into certain places.
There were certain bars I refused to go to with my hubby because I knew my eyes would water and I would feel nauseous the whole night.
I remember someone making the argument that business for bars would increase because there were so many people like me out there.
It turned out they were wrong.
Businesses have been hurting and they want their smokers back.
“Anything could have triggered her attack.”
Yes...stress, a virus...somebody’s perfume, allergies....
My father who lived to the age of eighty had asthma from his early teen years until his death. He smoked for years, starting as a young adult and continued to do so for the rest of his life ... except for the last 6 to 8 years. Asthma aside, he enjoyed good health all those years.
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