I agree...nobody steals Mrs. Clinton's crown.
RUSH: No Matter Who Wins the Voting, Mrs. Clinton Will Be the Nominee
Posted on 02/13/2008 7:00:20 AM PST by jdm
After Barack Obama swept the Potomac Primaries last night, one might have expected Hillary Clinton to say a few words to her supporters to explain the losses. If so, the crowds that turned out for her in Texas had to manage their disappointment. They managed to let her know when they disagreed with her, however:
As news of her triple defeat in the Potomac Primary sank in, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton did what has become a specialty in recent weeks: She headed someplace else.
After flying from Virginia to Texas for a rally on Tuesday night, Clinton did not publicly acknowledge, even in passing, that three significant primaries had taken place that day and her campaign had not issued a statement hours after results were announced. ...
When Clinton mentioned having differences with Obama over health care and the mortgage crisis, she was booed. Her comments continued past 9:30 p.m. Eastern time, as the polls in Maryland closed and the race was called for Obama, but in the giant arena, with a crowd her campaign estimated at 12,000, it seemed as though the defeat had not happened.
She talked about George Bush and Barack Obama being "all hat and no cattle," a rather strange reference for someone who has no executive experience at all. Her only public-policy leadership experience came from a task force that attempted to nationalize health care and lost her party control of Congress. In fact, the debacle was so bad that the Clintons have kept the records from going public for months.
It also might cause a few people to recall Hillary's history with "more cattle". Questions still remain about how she managed to turn $1,000 in cattle futures into a $100,000 profit. What was the wife of the governor of Arkansas doing in partnering with the head of a corporation in a state-regulated industry to turn an almost unheard-of profit from a minimal investment? Talk about all hat, no cattle!
Beyond that, though, Hillary still remains the favorite to win the nomination. She now trails in overall delegates for the first time, and in pledged delegates Obama leads by over a hundred, 1059-956. Without the 796 superdelegates, neither can win the 2,025 delegates necessary to get the nomination, and the primary map will soon start favoring Hillary. I doubt that the gap will get much wider, and it will likely narrow considerably. Unless Obama can keep widening it all the way to the convention, he's sunk.
Here's why. The superdelegates represent the elected and appointed establishment of the party. The Clintons have spent the last sixteen years putting most of them in power. They have campaigned for them, raised cash for them, and gotten them their jobs. Most of them are superdelegates because of the Clintons in one way or another. Barack Obama, on the other hand, just won his first national office three years ago, and has done far less for most of these elected and appointed officials.
When the Clintons come calling, which will most of these people choose to support? The people who put them in the position of casting this vote, or a candidate who hasn't done hardly anything for them? Will they select the candidate that wants to incorporate the establishment into the next administration, or the one that has campaigned on the promise to clean out the establishment?
Obama had better hope he wins everything between now and Denver. If he has less than a two-hundred delegate lead going into the convention, he won't win the nomination.
As dumb as the DemocRATS are, I cannot imagine that they would be so dumb as to give Hillary the nomination based solely on superdelegates. I think they would realize the damage they would do to their party.
So, I think this analysis is all wet. Whoever leads in pledged delegates will get the nomination.
That seems logical...but, Hillary has been banking on being President for decades. She will do anything to win.
She will get the Florida and Michigan delegates seated.
Watch.
Perfect for mcinsane
I disagree. Obamma is a easy mark to prove that he will be the most leftist president ever. Hillary is not. She has only Bubba baggage and it's not enough to turn republicans out for the vote with McCain as the nominee..
With Obamma, they will be more inclined to vote against the man, rather than vote for McCain.
Also, you pointed out that McCain voted against prescription drugs and would lose the older voters, but how do you square that with the fact he won Florida hands down. He took that vote easily away from my candidate Romney who was big on elder care.
All I can tell you, is that I am not likely to be energized unless Obamma were to take the nomination, and that's the truth of it. I am not very worried about Hillary as president, when I feel that we will lose in any case, but when you put Obamma into the equation, things change. That guy scares the hell out of me, and it's mostly a fear that my fellow veterans all share. It will become more evident if he gets the nomination. This I can guarantee you.
“When the Clintons come calling, which will most of these people choose to support? The people who put them in the position of casting this vote, or a candidate who hasn’t done hardly anything for them?”
The Democrat party as a whole is so weak they will support Clinton ONLY if they are reasonably sure Obama cannot win - Why? Because sadly, most Democrats are deceived quislings who support the Clintons out of fear and not out of love. It was the same for followers of other evil leaders such as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are two long-term criminals who are totally unqualified to have anything to do with the leadership of our great nation. That the Democrat party is even considering her demonstrates how far they have fallen in the last 50 years a party defined by appeasement, weakness, immorality, infanticide, no personal responsibility, nanny state, lying, stealing, and cheating. If these deceived buffoons had the full control of our nation, America would be destroyed within two generations.
Good will ultimately triumph over evil, and make no mistake - the Clintons have been perpetrators of evil for many years. I do not believe she will ever be POTUS.
We must keep fighting the good fight and place our faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ - never in the promises of man.
McCain made a great deal of sense in his speech, and was logical, thoughtful, very sound, and very impressive.
Obama and his orotundly delivered and quite ridiculous platitudes had his audience weeping, laughing, cheering, angry, sad, happy ... he rode them hard and he put'em away wet... and they loved it!
McCain, standing in front of polite, sober, calm, seasoned citizens, had better hope enough people in this country can still read, write, and reason enough to appreciate what he is saying.
Last night, McCain impressed many men like me, who are his age and might know what he's talking about, even though we were prepared to dislike him. But you can't win a national election with those 8 votes!
But if Obama put old McCain in a tough spot last night, he put Mrs. Clinton in a much hotter corner. She is a policy wonk, with a trail of failed policies behind her and all the baggage train of her husband. McCain has a modicum of reality on his side. Mrs. Clinton doesn't.
They can't attack Obamma on issues because they must agree to keep their left flank intact, and they can't take him down personally because they will be framed by the MSM as racist.
Obamma will win this, barring any revelations or mistakes.
Then we can take him on with issues.
Worth reading this article, the maps going to startbfavoring the witch.
Good summary. I think all of your points are on the money.
Yet another entry in “Be careful what you wish for”... those that fought early against Hillary are now regretting that they were successful.
Yep. There will be some threshhold, though. Don’t know if it’s 150, 200 delegates or what, but at some point, the “supers” simply will not overturn the “will of the people.” As pathetic as McCain is, the Dems may find a way to hand him this race.
Maybe there isn’t any dirt to dig up on Obama. I don’t know. But knowing the Clintons I expect that whatever there is that has the potential to bring Obama down we will soon be hearing about it. Not from them directly of course but through surrogates - possibly from some of there NAACP lackeys or MSM allies.
If the KKKlintoons had ANY dirt on the Obamas, it would have already hit the fan long ago, well before Super Tuesday’s fiasco. They tried and all they got was some elementary school essay or some such nonsense. That then proved to me that’s ALL their flying monkeys were able to get, and that they were, in fact, in the process of getting it. They’ve got bupkis on Obama, nothing, zero, zilch, nada. That is why they are in dire straits, now. They cannot fight against a “clean” candidate. He may be a socialist, but he’s an honest socialist. He’s young and maleable. He can be shown the correct way of doing things. The KKKLintoons cannot withstand the tsunami of Obama’s forceful and, although misguided, cult of personality. Hillary is toast. But NEVER underestimate her. Experience and Treachery will defeat youth and enthusiasm every time. And that’s the ONLY way she can win......
No, that is not what I am saying.
I disagree. Obamma is a easy mark to prove that he will be the most leftist president ever. Hillary is not. She has only Bubba baggage and it's not enough to turn republicans out for the vote with McCain as the nominee.
Kerry was the most liberal rated senator in 2004. He almost beat Bush, an incumbent, wartime President during good economic times. McCain is far weaker a candidate than Bush and Obama is stronger than Kerry because he brings none of Kerry's baggage.
Hillary will turn out conservatives, many of whom [not me], will hold their noses and vote for McCain. If Obama is the nominee, they won't. I base that on the reaction my newly formed group, Republicans Against Maverick McCain, got during the CPAC conference. Most who signed up said they wouldn't vote for McCain under any circumstance.
Obama is nowhere near as polarizing a figure as Hillary. The very fact that more than half of the Democrats are voting against Hillary versus a candidate with such a weak resume, should be a strong indicator of how polarizing she is. Obama is actually likeable.
Also, you pointed out that McCain voted against prescription drugs and would lose the older voters, but how do you square that with the fact he won Florida hands down. He took that vote easily away from my candidate Romney who was big on elder care.
I am an immigration activist. I spent four days each in FL and SC driving almost 2000 miles dogging the McCain campaign and protesting his stance on amnesty at almost all of his events. First, McCain did not win Florida "hands down." He won with 36% of the vote narrowly beating Romney with 31% of the vote. In essence, 64% of Reps voted AGAINST McCain.
McCain's margin of victory came from Cuban-American Reps who voted for McCain almost 5 to 1 against Romney in Miami-Dade and Broward counties. Why? The difference between McCain's and Romney's stance on amnesty. It is no secret that the three Cuban-American Rep congressmen endorsed McCain and two out of the three voted [one didn't vote] against the Dec 2005 House enforcement only bill sponsored by Jim Sensenbrenner.
A little vingette: We had panel vans with signs stating "McCain=Amnesty." In most of FL, that was seen as being pejorative against McCain. In South Flordia we had people coming up to the van believing that we were supporting McCain and they asked for bumper stickers and other signs saying the same thing. When we told them that we were against McCain because of amnesty, they gave us a thumbs down.
Re McCain's stance on the Medicare Prescription Drug program, I never heard McCain mention this once during his stump speech, which I can almost recite by heart hearing it so often. I bet most seniors don't even know that. You can bet they will know it in the Fall.
All I can tell you, is that I am not likely to be energized unless Obamma were to take the nomination, and that's the truth of it. I am not very worried about Hillary as president, when I feel that we will lose in any case, but when you put Obamma into the equation, things change. That guy scares the hell out of me, and it's mostly a fear that my fellow veterans all share. It will become more evident if he gets the nomination. This I can guarantee you.
Hillary scares me more than Obama. Bill and Hill actually know how to operate inside the Beltway. They will be much more effective in getting their agenda through. I am also a veteran and don't share your sentiments about Obama. I would like to see the Clintons taken down once and for all. I hate to think of them in the WH for eight more years. That's what scares the hell out of me.
FYI: I started out for Thompson and shifted to Romney. I hope he comes back to run in 2012. I seriously doubt any Rep can win in 2008 following Bush 43.
“That’s a picture of what Bubba wakes up to every morning...”
Serves him right. One’s no better than the other.
You might be right about the lack of dirt on Obama ... or not. But you're definitely right about this. They'll do whatever it takes to destroy Obama before the convention.
Hillary’s carpet cleaner.
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