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Montanans Insist on Gun Rights
The Washington Times ^ | February 25, 2008 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 02/25/2008 3:21:43 PM PST by kellynla

Montana officials are warning that if the Supreme Court rules in the D.C. gun ban case that the right to keep and bear arms protects only state-run militias like the National Guard, then the federal government will have breached Montana's statehood contract.

Nobody is raising flags for the Republic of Montana, but nobody is kidding, either. So far, 39 elected Montana officials have signed a resolution declaring that a court ruling of the Second Amendment is a right of states and not of individuals would violate Montana's compact.

"The U.S. would do well to keep its contractual promise to the states that the Second Amendment secures an individual right now as it did upon execution of the statehood contract," Montana Secretary of State Brad Johnson said in a Feb. 15 letter to The Washington Times.

The resolution also was signed by Rep. Denny Rehberg, Montana's lone Republican congressman, and state Sen. Roy Brown, who is running to unseat Gov. Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat.

The dispute goes back more than a century. Back in 1889, the settlers of the Montana territory struck a deal with the federal government: They agreed to join the union, and the government agreed that individuals had the right to bear arms.

That has worked fine for the past 118 years, but the Supreme Court is expected next month to hear oral argument in District of Columbia v. Heller, the appeal of a federal court decision striking down the District's gun-ownership ban on Second Amendment grounds.

The high court has not issued a broad ruling on Second Amendment law in almost 70 years, including the key question of whether it provides an individual right, like speech and jury trial, or a "collective right" held by state governments.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; beararms; constitution; guns; heller; montana; mtsos
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To: DuncanWaring
Aren’t those actually Ishapore 2A Enfields, chambered for .308?

Yep. Got 3 of 'em.

See post 137.

L

141 posted on 02/27/2008 11:14:44 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Squantos
If ya want the plans to an angle iron scope base for your enfield let me know and I will link ya too that as well !

Please do. The manufacturer who made the one I bought no longer has any and doesn't plan any more production.

Thanks!

142 posted on 02/27/2008 11:17:56 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker

http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/ScopeMount.htm

Vauge but 100% functional and can be left as rough or refined as ya wish.

I drilled out mine aka honeycombed it, counter sinked each hole, then bead blasted the hell out of it. went back and did some experimental acid etching etc etc ......left a little EOD logo on it. It didn’t look as well as I wanted so I blasted that poor boy etching off it and then , as I stated to TM above, used the bedliner material on it from Line-x. I used different shades of grey, black etc to make the little rifle, stock, metal, and the scope look really nice.

Careful prep of parts and all the accuracy work was done before the final finish and it shoots great after final assembly.


143 posted on 02/27/2008 12:05:37 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Montana4Jesus

A wise man once told me never to ‘advertise’ what weapons you have. YOu never know who may be listening.


144 posted on 02/27/2008 12:10:55 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: kellynla

I’m glad to see Montana hasn’t been totally overrun by California liberals yet.


145 posted on 02/27/2008 12:15:45 PM PST by JZelle
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To: Lurker; archy

Somewhere upthread somebody posted a standing record from the 19teens, where a shooter with an Enfield put something like 38 rounds into a 12 inch target at 200 yards in a minute. I’ve always heard the Enfield had the fastest bolt action ever.


146 posted on 02/27/2008 12:24:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Squantos
Thanks my friend.

Send me a pic of that thing and I'll show you what I did to mine.

L

147 posted on 02/27/2008 12:28:36 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: kellynla

Sec. 15. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.

Connecticut state Constitution


148 posted on 02/27/2008 12:37:50 PM PST by kidd
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To: Travis McGee; archy; Squantos
During WWI the Brits used the Mad Minute during which they were supposed to fire 15 aimed rounds and hit a target 300 yards away.

You can watch a modern recreation of it on Youtube.

The Brits used those old Enfields to great effect through 2 World Wars. Trained British riflemen could fire the Enfields so quickly that enemy troops were often convinced they were facing machine guns instead of bolt action rifles.

L

149 posted on 02/27/2008 12:44:57 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Travis McGee
I’ve always heard the Enfield had the fastest bolt action ever.

Since I haven't as of yet actually fired every single bolt action ever made I can't really comment. I know the Swiss K-31 Carbine has a straight pull bolt which may make it just a touch quicker. But that rifle has a magazine capacity of only 6 rounds.

Not that that niggling little detail would matter to a Swiss rifleman. No self respecting Swiss shooter could look at him or her self in the mirror if it took more than a single round to bring down their target.

L

150 posted on 02/27/2008 12:52:47 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker

Cool video!


151 posted on 02/27/2008 12:54:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
I wouldn't want to come up against that guy in a firefight.

Most likely a 'professional' would ignore the fat old bald fart lugging that heavy antique rifle around and go for the younger punks toting their AR's, HK's and such.

The 'professional' would soon regret that decision I think...

L

152 posted on 02/27/2008 1:10:57 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: mamelukesabre
The harder it is to find the proper ammo, the less useful the firearm in a warzone.

That's why you buy what the enemy uses.

153 posted on 02/27/2008 1:14:21 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: kellynla

Today’s fascist government can’t be trusted. That’s why we need individual posession of the means of self-defense.


154 posted on 02/27/2008 1:20:46 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (just try to take it away!)
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To: Lurker

Good for you. I’m still not buying one. You can keep yours. That way you can continue to be the idiot that likes to tell people how easily you can kill them.


155 posted on 02/27/2008 4:37:36 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Travis McGee
Have you ever fired one? It’s the way the mechanism compresses the spring when you push the bolt FORWARD. Most bolt actions compress the spring as you unlock the bolt. Also, the locking lugs seem to be very slippery somehow. Lifting the bolt to unlock and then locking the bolt are very effortless movements...unlike the german mauser. It’s kind of a kookie looking thing, but it is fun to see how fast you can cycle it. If you havn’t tried one out, you should. It’s a unique mechanism. IIRC, if you open the bolt without pulling the trigger, in otherwords, eject an unfired round while the spring is still compressed...the spring decompresses as it “springs” the bolt to the rear. It’s unusual.

I would expect a very high quality mauser style bolt rifle with a shorter action, say for a 223, would be as fast as the old enfield.

I don’t know if these guns are true “bolt actions”, but there are some modern rifles made with a radial pattern locking bolt, like on the M16. These kind don’t have a knob that moves in the traditional “L” shaped path to open and close. Just pull it straight back. These might be a bit quicker. But not as gratifying to operate.

156 posted on 02/27/2008 5:33:55 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: kellynla

2nd amm bump


157 posted on 02/27/2008 8:14:28 PM PST by tjeff1776 (vote early, vote often)
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To: doogal
Road trip scheduled.

Thanks for the weather report!

158 posted on 02/28/2008 6:39:49 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: mamelukesabre
Just came across this thread referenced from another and read your post. Take a look at the Saiga as well, .308 with AK reliability. Not a tack driver, but a really well constructed combat quality rifle. F.Y.I. Less expensive.

Here's the Saiga forum web address: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?
159 posted on 03/08/2008 4:02:14 PM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: Sudetenland

Cool. Thanks. The link didn’t work, but I found it on my own. I like the 12 ga shotgun too. Now I’ve got even more to think about.


160 posted on 03/09/2008 2:07:52 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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