Reporters' Guide: Iraq Veterans Against the War 'Winter Soldier' Investigation

The Hill ^ | March 11, 2008 | Stop the Slander

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WASHINGTON, March 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is being issued by Stop the Slander:

What is Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW)?

-- The IVAW is a tax-exempt activist organization founded in July 2004 with the assistance of older radical organizations Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) and Veterans for Peace (VFP). IVAW obtains its 501(c)3 tax exempt status from the latter group.

Source (VFP): http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6244

-- IVAW calls for the immediate withdrawal of all of what it calls "occupying" forces in Iraq, reparations to be paid, and an end of corporate pillaging by the U.S.

Source: http://ivaw.org/about

Who are IVAW's Members?

-- The organization claims about 800 members, which would be 1/2000th of the 1.6 million who have served in Afghanistan (OEF) and Iraq (OIF) if all the IVAW members had actually served in either theatre.

Source: http://ivaw.org/

-- The organization's name is misleading. Service in Iraq (or Afghanistan) is not a requirement for membership. Membership criteria is that a veteran or active duty person had to serve in any capacity in the active duty military, National Guard or Reserves for any period of time after September 11, 2001.

Source: http://ivaw.org/membership

-- A significant but unknown number of members, likely 20% - 40% based on IVAW's public member profiles, have not deployed to either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Source: http://ivaw.org/view/profiles

What are IVAW's Main Activities?

-- Primarily demonstrations, street theatre and using whatever media they can to further the anti-war cause, much of it having to do with vague but constant charges of atrocities and war crimes by American forces.

Sources: Sunday Times, Mar 2, 2008: We Came, We Saw, We Murdered

http://ivaw.org/images/LondonTimesMagazinecover.jpg

Video: Commanders Encourage War Crimes - The Killing of Civilians is Policy

http://trevorsnyder.info/watch-video/cwYvdyn3oRc/mmflint/iraq-war-veter ans:-commanders-encourage-war-crimes.html

Does IVAW Have a History of Credibility Problems? Yes. Here are a few examples:

-- In May 2006 an IVAW member named Jesse MacBeth appeared in a video widely circulated on the Internet. MacBeth claimed to have been a Ranger in Iraq who had committed horrific atrocities with his unit, including the execution of hundreds of men, women and children. However, MacBeth was exposed as a fraud who had been dismissed from the Army before completing Basic Training.

Source: Seattle Times http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003739269_fakeranger08m0.h tml

-- In 2005, IVAW founder Jimmy Massy, a Marine veteran of Iraq, was found to have fabricated stories published in the Modesto Bee, the Sacramento Bee and the Associated Press. Ron Harris of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and four other embedded reporters and other Marines in Massey's unit refuted the claims. The news organizations published retractions.

Sources: Jewish World Review http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin110905.php3

Michelle Malkin

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/12/14/jimmy-masseys-lies-the-ap-finally- wakes-up/

-- In an interview in March 2005, IVAW leader Camilo Mejia was asked if he had ever abused or tortured detainees in Iraq and replied in the negative. During his court martial for desertion Mejia again made no claims to have done or been ordered to do so, which claim if made might have strengthened his defense. However, in an interview the next August with Dahr Jamail, author of "Beyond the Green Zone", Mejia's story changed to "I tortured guys."

Sources: PBS http://www.pbs.org/now/news/330-transcript.html

Dahr Jamail's Mideast Dispatches http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/iraq_dispatches/000271.php

Point of Clarity News http://www.pointofclarity.org/news/story.cfm?nID=50

-- In the same interview with Dahr Jamail in Aug 2005, Jamail wrote of what several IVAW members were telling him "I type furiously for three hours, trying to keep up with the stories each of the men shared....about the atrocities of what they saw, and committed, while in Iraq." IVAW member Harvey Tharp was quoted by Jamail saying "Most of what we're talking about is war crimes...war crimes because they are directed by our government for power projection." However, in an interview with the Yemen Times published on Feb 25, 2008, Tharp admitted to never having witnessed an atrocity in Iraq.

Sources: Dahr Jamail's Mideast Dispatches http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/iraq_dispatches/000271.php

Yemen Times http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1132&p=report&a=1

Are The Atrocity and War Crimes Stories Told by IVAW Members True?

-- The stories follow a familiar pattern. Wartime events that are often both legal and moral, but that may have disturbing or tragic consequences out of the realm of normal civilian experience are deliberately mischaracterized by IVAW activists to put them in the worst possible light.

-- The stories are invariably presented without the details that would enable them to be verified. Nor is there any indication that the alleged events were reported to the chain of command when they happened, as is required in the case of genuine crimes by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

Sources: Times Online http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3444835. ece?Submitted=true

Video: Commanders Encourage War Crimes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYvdyn3oRc

About.com: Uniform Code of Military Justice http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/l/blucmj.htm

What is the History of "Winter Soldier" Allegations and Why is it Important?

-- In 1971, more than 100 members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) held a three day conference in Detroit to make hundreds of unsupported allegations of war crimes that they claimed to have participated in or witnessed.

-- The VVAW allegations were presented to the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs in April 1971 by John Kerry, in an event given enormous publicity by the "Big Three" networks, ABC, CBS and NBC. The networks and print media repeated the war crime allegation uncritically, without demanding evidence.

-- The Kerry / VVAW allegations were widely believed, and helped contribute to an atmosphere of public contempt toward American Vietnam Veterans.

-- The military was charged with investigating the VVAW allegations, but the results of those investigations were never made public.

-- The U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) opened cases for 48 VVAW allegations that, if true, would qualify as war crimes. Summary reports show that 25 of the "witnesses" refused to support their allegations with evidence. Several others provided statements that could not be confirmed, or that were contradicted by investigation. At least ten more backtracked on their Winter Soldier allegations when questioned by investigators. Out of 76 allegations made by purported Army VVAW members, only one case showed probable evidence of a war crime.

Sources: WinterSoldier.com: Army CID Investigations of VVAW War Crimes Allegations

http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=WSI_CID

FrontPageMagazine.com: Newly Discovered Army Reports Discredit "Winter Soldier" Claims

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5AA13DC0-481C-46BC- AF88-D5FE933B3216

How Should the Media Respond to the Winter Soldier Stories and Allegations?

-- Journalists should exert due diligence to establish the truth and search for the facts that will verify or refute each allegation.

-- An acronym has been developed as a simple guide to what should reasonably be asked by journalists of those making allegations: DUPES:

D: Date(s) - When did the incident occur?

U: Unit(s) - What military units were involved?

P: Personnel - What are the names of the participants and witnesses?

E: Event(s) - What exactly happened exactly where?

S: Signature(s) - Was this reported at the time or later and were reports, affidavits or depositions signed, or will they now be signed?

-- Journalists can and should check with the Pentagon to verify service claimed (via DD214) of testifiers.

-- Statements and written accounts made by many members of IVAW are readily available on the Internet and should be checked against the claims made at Winter Soldier to establish consistency or changes in these allegations over time.

-- If such questions are not asked, answered, and professionally followed up, journalists are merely helping activists spread political propaganda.

For more information on IVAW and the 2008 Winter Soldier Investigation: http://keohane.blogspot.com/

For more information on VVAW and the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation: http://www.wintersoldier.com/

To schedule an interview with a Stop the Slander representative, contact Denis Keohane, Phone: 336-634-0789

Obiter Dictum Blog: http://keohane.blogspot.com/

[Interesting Times]

Useful fact sheet for reporters interested in covering both sides of the "Winter Soldier II" story.

[Interesting Times]

Outing the Winter Weasels ping!

[tgslTakoma]

“Good info” ping to DC Chapter list...

[calcowgirl]

Bump!

[mtntop3]

Quite useful, indeed. Thank you.

[singfreedom]

Jeez, with a name like “Jessie McBeth” who could have possibly known the guy was an unqualified liar?? (It is the ultimate revelation that these dimwits don't even have to be veterans of the “fronts” they claim to be protesting!)

The monolith of integrity and paragon of truthfulness, John Kerry, again rears his ugly head. Kerry lied and many good men died-—or suffered for years-—including my hubby. Kerry is not fit to lick their boots!

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. I’m glad anti-American slander isn’t going unchallenged this time.

[freema]

This looks great!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[abner]

Expletive deleted...

[Interesting Times]

Several, actually.

[Interesting Times]

Have you seen this?

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[R. Scott]

Journalists should exert due diligence to establish the truth and search for the facts that will verify or refute each allegation.
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Journalists can and should check with the Pentagon to verify service claimed (via DD214) of testifiers.

Will any in our "esteemed" MSM follow any of the DUBES guidelines, particularly the above? It wouldn't take a lot of effort.
No, in their rush they will use such phrases as "it was reported" and "they testified that...". In their anti-US military minds they will consider their jobs done. The MSM didn't claim the tales were true, just that they were made. Democrats and pro-jihadist groups will pick up on the tales as proof that US Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen are totally whacked out. At least they can’t claim (yet) that all are drug addicts.

[big'ol_freeper]

Thanks for posting. Hooah.

[Travis McGee]

Great info!

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Indeed will print out some copies.

[SunkenCiv]

Description of the latest joiners of the Axis of Weasels.

[LucyT]

His Winter Soldier testimony:

[vharlow]

ping for later