Posted on 04/01/2008 2:50:14 PM PDT by Squidpup
LOLOL! Perfect response!
Oh, and did I mention that I think this is an April Fool's joke? Sure wish I could believe that the fence would get built but it won't happen with McCain (or Bush).
“The idea that the border fence has anything to do with keeping terrorists out of the US is as silly as most of you border nuts”
So therefore...don’t bother at all? Yeah, great idea, bright one.
“The idea that the border fence has anything to do with keeping terrorists out of the US is as silly as most of you border nuts”
Seems to work for the Israelis - for most part.
see #38...
as far as proving anything...how about studying up on what a President can and cant do without Congressional approval...My contention is already correct , GW has done more than any other President in terms of enforcing existing laws and building a tighter border.
this is an article that says GW is going to cut through red tape ..it seems to me you can believe it or not ....the Bush hatred here is keeping people from believing it ...enjoy yourselves
As distasteful as I find it to defend McCain...
I've never heard Bush say he would secure our borders, while McCain has at least been saying the words for several months.
“the Bush hatred here is keeping people from believing it”
History and common sense are keeping us from believing it.
“You prove your contention first”
Doesn’t work that way. You made an unsupported assertion. The burden for providing proof lies in your court and not AuntB’s.”
Ah, woofie. Ya have nothing do you? I don’t ask questions I don’t know the answer to. I’m happy to show you a couple things. Then you’re on your own.
Clinton was making an attempt at interior enforcement until the REPUBLICANS from Georgia put a stop to it in 1998, and Bush never bothered to even try until he was forced by congress.
Why & When workplace enforcement of illegal aliens stopped
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=+Why+%26+When+workplace+enforcement+of+illegal+aliens+stopped
Spiff has a great chart that shows how deportations went down under Bush. I’m not going to search for it now, but you’re just plain wrong ( and I think you know it) when you say “Once Bush is out of office you guys will realize he did more to secure the border than any other President”
How about Eisenhower? How about when a president put civilian ARMED patrols on the Mexican border along with the National guard in the 20’s?
So therefore...don’t bother at all?
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Now did I say that?
That's the truth but no one here will listen.
That’s definitely what you were implying.
If logical exceptions/accommodations aren't made to the very few who have this problem, then DHS isn't even trying.
Is that your concept of eloquence?
He could call up the National Guard and put 6 to 8 guys on every mile of the border with rules of engagement that say force will be met with force.
Border secure in 2 months or less.
GW has done more than any other President in terms of enforcing existing laws and building a tighter border.
Any little bit Bush has done was only because of tremendous political pressure put on him by millions of American citizens.
If Bush had his way, he would have open borders and free and fast light rail importing illegals into the United States 24 hours a day.
Gibson just announced this on the evening news
“I’ve never heard Bush say he would secure our borders, while McCain has at least been saying the words for several months.”
What McCain said was he wouldn’t push for amnesty until the ‘border governors’ have ‘certified’ their borders are secure to their satisfaction. Arnold, Richardson, Napalitano, and Perry would probably ‘certify’ that today.
I am not compelled to be eloquent when responding to asinine comments. This is a political board, not a social etiquette school for butlers and maids.
The truth? LOL....must be a McCain supporter.
This is from Mark Krikorian at Center for Immigration studies. The ignorant and corrupt have elected McCain.
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Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates’
Immigration Positions
McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark
WASHINGTON (March 31, 2007) – A new poll using neutral language finds that primary and caucus voters have little knowledge of candidates’ immigration positions. The results also show that voters often do not share their candidate’s position.
For results and tables, go to http://www.cis.org/articles/2008/voter_release_08.html
Among the findings:
# Only 34 percent of McCain voters, 42 percent of Clinton voters, and 52 percent of Obama voters correctly identified their candidate as favoring eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants who meet certain requirements.
# Of McCain voters, 35 percent mistakenly thought he favored enforcement that would cause illegals to return home, another 10 percent thought he wanted mass deportations, and 21 percent didn’t know his position.
# Voters often held different positions from the candidate they supported. Only 31 percent of McCain voters had the same immigration position as he does. For Clinton voters, 45 percent shared her position; 61 percent of Obama voters shared his position.
# This lack of knowledge, coupled with disagreements with their candidates’ positions, makes it very difficult to draw any conclusions about the fact that all three remaining candidates favor legalization for illegal immigrants.
# Whoever wins the presidency will face significant opposition to giving eventual citizenship to illegal immigrants. Just 25 percent of Republican and 50 percent of Democratic primary/caucus voters said they would support such an effort.
# Pro-enforcement voters have a greater intensity of views than supporters of legalization. Among Republicans, almost nine out ten who favored causing illegals to return home said they strongly supported that view; on the other hand, fewer than half of Republicans who backed legalization strongly supported that view.
# This greater intensity also exists among Democrats. Of Democrats who favored causing illegals to return home, more than seven out of ten strongly supported that view; on the other hand, fewer than six out of ten who favored legalization strongly supported that view.
Methodology: The survey of 1,276 persons who voted in a primary or caucus was conducted March 12-13. The survey was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research.
The 1.5-mile strip of triple fencing that cuts through suburban San Luis is the most impenetrable, says Bernacke.
That's because the three walls are separated here by a 75-yard "no man's land" – a flat, sandy corridor punctuated by pole-topped lighting, cameras, radio systems, and radar units, where unauthorized migrants can be chased down by border agents.
The triple-layer fencing begins at the San Luis port of entry, one of a handful of formal checkpoints where cars and trucks from Mexico line up, waiting for the US border patrol to inspect them for illegal contraband or migrants before they cross over. One-and-a-half miles east of San Luis, the triple fencing gives way to double fencing for about five miles, after which come another 39 miles of so-called "primary fencing" – a combination of steel mesh and steel panels fitted over bollards, or small metal and cement pillars, that stick up from the ground.
"Back in 2005 when President Bush came here, newspapers were writing that Yuma was the most dangerous place to live – and he came in and said, 'I am going to fix this' and he did," says Yuma Mayor Larry Nelson.
The Mayor is probably lying
“The fence cuts across many ranches that operate on both sides of the border.”
So put a few gates in. That’s what I did on my fenced in land.
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