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NY must recognize homosexual 'marriages'
One News Now ^ | May 9, 2008 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 05/09/2008 7:11:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The State of New York has been ordered to recognize homosexual "marriages" performed in U.S. states and foreign countries where the practice is legal.

New York's highest court – the Court of Appeals – refused to review a lower-court ruling that ordered recognition of so-called foreign "same-sex marriages" performed outside the State of New York. Such unions must now be honored in New York if they were created legally -- for example, in Massachusetts or Canada.

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality says activist judges are now forcing homosexual marriage on New York citizens. "[T]his is a very sad day for New Yorkers, and we hope this doesn't happen in [other] states across this nation," he comments.

"This is precisely what we feared with the whole onset of homosexual 'marriage' – different states being required, through activist judges ... to recognize [gay] marriages of other states [or] a foreign country."

However, LaBarbera notes the decision could be overturned by lawmakers or appealed to the federal courts. He says pro-family advocates and legislators in the Empire State should do anything they can to stop the forcing of homosexual marriage recognition through "judicial fiat."

"[Judicial activism is] just going to pave the way for even more aggressive rulings in this area," he continues. "So we hope that something can be done about this."

New York is one of only seven states that does not have a state law or constitutional amendment restricting marriage to the union of only one man and one woman. Only one state, Arizona, has tried and failed to pass a Defense of Marriage Act or amendment when the issue was voted on by the public. In more than two dozen other states, however, such initiatives have passed convincingly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: americansfortruth; defenseofmarriage; fullfaithandcredit; gaymarriage; glbt; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; judicialactivism; labarbera; lgbt; marriage; newyork; peterlabarbera; ruling; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 05/09/2008 7:11:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Tolerance sucks rocks.

I just don't know what else to say.

If they called for a revolution, nobody would come.

2 posted on 05/09/2008 7:16:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm over it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Only one state, Arizona, has tried and failed to pass a Defense of Marriage Act ...

Guess what' going to be shoved up AZ's a$$ in the very near future.

3 posted on 05/09/2008 7:17:35 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: wagglebee

These activist judges need to be removed from office, either by recall (if applicable) or impeachment.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 7:18:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Peter LaBarbera of Americans for "Truth About Homosexuality" says activist judges are now forcing homosexual marriage on New York citizens.

You mean it's not just legal, it's mandatory?

5 posted on 05/09/2008 7:18:38 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: paltz

Ping.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 7:19:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality says activist judges are now forcing homosexual marriage on New York citizens.

Is he saying that activist judges are forcing New Yorkers to marry someone of their own sex? :)

7 posted on 05/09/2008 7:25:09 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It is funny how Democrats don’t even believe in Democracy.


8 posted on 05/09/2008 7:28:11 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

“It is funny how Democrats don’t even believe in Democracy.”

Orwellian?

yes...24 years by now...


9 posted on 05/09/2008 7:46:41 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

10 posted on 05/09/2008 7:48:39 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Contempt of courts is my mantra. These men who work in dresses are responsible for all this crap.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 7:56:47 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Image hosted by Photobucket.com filthy disease ridden queers strike again...
12 posted on 05/09/2008 8:23:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Well, now, I just thot they worked for US. And if we don’t like those who ‘work for us,’ isn’t there something about we get to run them out of town?

Good grief! How much farther does it have to go?


13 posted on 05/09/2008 8:29:59 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Chode
As a former NYer to a current NYer, don't you guys vote on these issues anymore?
14 posted on 05/09/2008 8:38:15 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (MSM-Keelhauling the News daily!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

LOL

And when a Muzzi shows up with 5 or 6 ‘legal’ wives, what happens?


15 posted on 05/09/2008 8:57:29 PM PDT by ASOC (Training Storungen werden auf Papier notiert. Taktische Storungen werden im Stein geatzt. Gen Rommel)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow, who would have ever thought gubberment would mess marriage up. Gubberment has such a great track record with everything else...

Freegards


16 posted on 05/09/2008 10:36:26 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: mathurine

You know the Mae West line ...

“Are you trying to show contempt for this court?”
“I’m doing my best to hide it.”


17 posted on 05/09/2008 11:24:31 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Clintonfatigued
These activist judges need to be removed from office, either by recall (if applicable) or impeachment.

That's an old refrain. We know by now that the spineless scumbag politicians simply don't have the guts.

18 posted on 05/09/2008 11:30:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Clintonfatigued; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>>These activist judges need to be removed from office, either by recall (if applicable) or impeachment.

This was the only decision the judges could have reached under the backdrop of current law.

I discussed this last year on a thread regarding the Florida anti-gay marriage campaign

“”Ultimately a waste of time I think. Eventually the matter will be before the Supreme Court where the United States Constitution’s “Full Faith and Credit Clause” will trump the local restrictions.

Florida can choose to set its own restrictions on marriages performed in that jurisdiction, but legal marriages from elsewhere are legally binding on Florida and any other state. To illustrate, consider how different states set varying age requirements for marriage, but the marriage isn’t void when moving to a state that sets a higher age. And interstate travel to marry in a more accommodating state is already common.

You also had the same situation in the old days when divorce was much more limited. People got around this by going to Nevada for a quickie divorce the original restrictive state was forced to recognize.

Absent a federal constitutional amendment, which apparently isn’t going to happen, I really see no other final outcome.””

3 posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:36:21 AM by tlb


19 posted on 05/10/2008 4:44:18 AM PDT by tlb
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To: BIGLOOK
Image hosted by Photobucket.comnope and i live in the wilderness so my vote doesn't count anyway...
20 posted on 05/10/2008 5:09:26 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: tlb

That’s why it’s important to have more conservative justices that understand the folly of “same sex” marriages.


21 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:00 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
refused to review a lower-court ruling

It would have been helpful if the author of this story had cited the case.

22 posted on 05/10/2008 5:21:15 AM PDT by csvset
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To: DLfromthedesert

>>>That’s why it’s important to have more conservative justices that understand the folly of “same sex” marriages.

Immaterial if you want justices who follow the constitution instead of rewriting it. “Full Faith and Credit” is inextricable from such issues. A justice doing his duty honestly MUST honor and enforce it just as the NY judges did. The precedents go back to the first days of the republic and are too numerous to ignore.

Again the only way past the FF&C issue is the federal constitutional amendment defining marriage. And this will never get past the senate.


23 posted on 05/10/2008 6:10:48 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
How curious that this would break on Friday, when Friday was the first time in 4 years here that I actually saw one colorfully dressed professional male walk another to the corner and give him a "have a nice day" peck.

Like your typical muslim kneeling in public (I've seen more of those here than the other), there is an unmistakeable sense that the performance is just that: a performance, done for effect. That sort of motivation dies out when its audience yawns and loses interest.

This little faction of misfits isn't quite as ubiquitous as it wants you to believe.

24 posted on 05/10/2008 6:39:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm over it.)
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To: csvset
It would have been helpful if the author of this story had cited the case.

Yes. In fact, the entire story has a bit of an unreal feel about it.

25 posted on 05/10/2008 6:40:21 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm over it.)
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To: csvset
There's a little more reported in the Christian Post (which I'd never heard of) and by WETM. Apparently, the two live in Rochester, but were "married" in Canada, so I'm not sure how much "full faith and credit" is responsible.
26 posted on 05/10/2008 9:29:27 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Clintonfatigued
New York's constitution needs to be revised in some manner to prohibit rule by one-man dictat.

Possibly they could put a clause in there that would make a judge, governor or other public official who attempted to rule this way an "outlaw" subject to punishment by any citizen at any time.

27 posted on 05/10/2008 9:38:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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28 posted on 05/10/2008 10:07:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... my beliefs call for, honor your

FATHER and MOTHER.

Not honor Mother and Mother or a “father” pretending to be a “mother”. Too bad - violates my Christian beliefs.


29 posted on 05/10/2008 10:26:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bboop
IT needs to be settled in the United States Supreme Court.

It's a sad day, that people lack common sense and force perversion on everyone. It's no longer “tolerance”. It's FORCED acceptance.

30 posted on 05/10/2008 10:28:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: csvset

The highest court in New York state had previously ruled against same sex marriage in New York. But now, in this case, they are saying that the state must recognize marriages performed elsewhere. Isn’t that contradictory?

Maybe somebody knows exactly when that happened, but New York’s highest court ruled against a lower court judge in New York City who had ruled for same sex marriage. So how the heck can the court, in effect, overrule their previous ruling?


31 posted on 05/10/2008 12:43:52 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: the invisib1e hand
This little faction of misfits isn't quite as ubiquitous as it wants you to believe.

But they're far more politically and otherwise active than the general public. That's why they get their way so often.

32 posted on 05/10/2008 1:15:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Judicial tyranny rears its ugly head again. Allow the people to vote and this homo cr@p never gets anywhere.


33 posted on 05/10/2008 5:33:49 PM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: tlb
Absent a federal constitutional amendment, which apparently isn’t going to happen, I really see no other final outcome.”

Which is exactly why I've been calling for a constitutional marriage amendment since this BS first started. Those "conservatives" who oppose the federal amendment are not conservatives at all. They're fools, cowards, or crypto-homo shills.
34 posted on 05/10/2008 5:39:31 PM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: Antoninus

I’d just submit an amendment exempting recognition of marriages performed in other states from the Full Faith and Credit Clause. The Federal Government has too much power as it is without usurping marriage law from the states, and I don’t fancy myself a fool, a coward, or a crypto-homo-whatever.

But even this discussion should be irrelevant, because, as another FReeper said on this thread, the couple in question was apparently married in Canada, and the Full Faith and Credit clause simply refers to the several states, IIRC.

Furthermore, things such as the Defense of Marriage Act were predicated on the idea that there was a public policy exception, or some such, carved out in law from the Full Faith and Credit Clause, but that could be on legally shaky ground.


35 posted on 05/10/2008 5:47:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But they're far more politically and otherwise active than the general public. That's why they get their way so often.

Agreed. Their unholy alliance with the media (all media)leverages their message.

But, as with subprimes, leverage works two ways with equal power.

36 posted on 05/10/2008 7:56:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm over it.)
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To: tlb

Would “Full Faith and Credit” apply if a Muslim brough over his six wives? I doubt it. Marriage by definition is between one man and one woman. The Supreme Court does NOT have to buy into a perverted agenda.


37 posted on 05/11/2008 9:23:17 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

More proof a Federal Marriage Amendment is needed.

Of course McCain is essentially FOR homosexual marriage.


38 posted on 05/11/2008 10:19:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: wagglebee

Time for a Federal Amendment.


39 posted on 05/12/2008 8:50:12 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Enlarging my carbon footprint one step at a time.)
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