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Eminent Historian Debunks Scottish History As Largely Fabrication
The Times Online ^ | 5-18-2008 | Stuart MacDonald

Posted on 05/19/2008 4:05:09 PM PDT by blam

Eminent historian debunks Scottish history as largely fabrication

A book by the late Hugh Trevor-Roperand due to be published five years after his death argues that Scottish history is based on myths and falsehoods

Stuart MacDonald

SCOTLAND’S history is weaved from a “fraudulent” fabric of “myths and falsehoods”, according to an explosive new study by one of the world’s most eminent historians.

The Invention of Scotland: Myth and History, is the last book, and one of the most controversial, written by the late Hugh Trevor-Roper.

Now, five years after his death, the book is to be published at one of the most pivotal periods in Scottish political history.

It will provide an inflammatory contribution to the constitutional debate as it debunks many claims upon which the argument for independence is founded.

In the book, Trevor-Roper claims that Scotland’s literary and political traditions, which claim to date back to the Roman invasion of Scotland in the first century AD, are in fact based on myth and were largely invented in the 18th century.

Even the kilt, the ultimate sartorial symbol of Scottishness, was invented by an Englishman in the 1700s. The Declaration of Arbroath, presented to the then Pope in 1320 to confirm Scotland’s status as an independent state with an ancient constitution, is dismissed as being loaded with inaccuracies. It contains information on “imaginary” kings of ancient Scotland, created by historians, to provide false evidence that the Scots arrived north of the border from Ireland in the third century AD, before the Picts.

Scots are also accused of fabricating their own literary tradition, culminating in the publication of The Works of Ossian. These were claimed to have been translated from ancient sources in Gaelic about the lives of Celtic heroes, but have long been suspected of being a figment of the imagination of James Macpherson, the 18th-century Scottish poet who claimed to have translated them.

Trevor-Roper also declares that when the Scots were looking for a writer and poet to rival Shakespeare, following the Act of Union in 1707, they found nothing, leading to ancient writings being forged and passed off as Scottish literature.

“It was natural that Scots, seeking compensation for the end of their independent history and politics, should turn to discover and appreciate their native literature. Unfortunately when they looked for it, they could not find it. There was none.

“In Scotland, it seems to me, myth has played a far more important part in history than it has in England.

“Indeed, I believe the whole history of Scotland has been coloured by myth; and that myth, in Scotland, is never driven out by reality, or by reason, but lingers on until another myth has been discovered to replace it.”

The myth of the Highland dress was perpetuated by historians to provide a symbol by which Scots could be universally identified, as well as to support the country’s textile industry.

Trevor-Roper says the traditional dress of the Highlanders was a long Irish shirt and a cloak or plaid, which only the higher classes had woven in stripes and colours creating tartan.

The kilt did not, Trevor-Roper claims, come into being until the mid-18th century, when it was created by Thomas Rawlinson, who was an English quaker from Lancashire.

Rawlinson decided to shorten belted plaids after workmen in the Highlands, where he was staying, said they were uncomfortable.

But Michael Fry, the Scottish historian, said: “I don’t think Trevor-Roper is a very reliable guide to Scottish history. Lots of things emerge in history and just because we can’t pin down their origins it doesn’t follow from that \ everything about it is phoney. There is a distinguished school of medieval Scottish literature, and poetry in something that is recognisably Scots was being written in the 14th century.

“Tartan was worn in Scotland in the Middle Ages . . . and it just so happened that there was an evolution where this pattern, which was common in many parts of Europe, became distinctive in Scotland. His claims about the kilt prove absolutely nothing at all about the history of the dress.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bookreview; fabrication; godsgravesglyphs; historian; history; scotland; scotlandyet; worldhistory
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To: varialectio
... no kilts til the 18th c. Well, I think it's for sure there were no kilts in the second half of the 18th century. They were banned after Culloden, or so I hear.
21 posted on 05/19/2008 5:08:51 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: varialectio
... no kilts til the 18th c. Well, I think it's for sure there were no kilts in the second half of the 18th century. They were banned after Culloden, or so I hear.
22 posted on 05/19/2008 5:11:00 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: ArmyTeach

duplication :-(


23 posted on 05/19/2008 5:11:50 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sorry,, Taylor’s book came out in 1961. Time flies when you’re having fun.


24 posted on 05/19/2008 5:31:36 PM PDT by varialectio
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To: dynachrome
"checking the family history at the website of the Old Bailey proceedings"....

Tried - any tips?

25 posted on 05/19/2008 5:52:14 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton

Just punched in my last name in the search box and cme up with a lot of hits. Helps to have a very common name.


26 posted on 05/19/2008 5:57:30 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: norton

Sorry. You meant the website!

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/index.jsp


27 posted on 05/19/2008 6:00:10 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: ArmyTeach
The kilts continued as part of the uniform of the Black Watch and a couple of other regiments or militia organizations (including the Duke of Atholl's private army).

About the only way you could continue to wear tartan or play the pipes was to join the army . . . .

The whole "clan tartan" thing didn't really take hold until Victorian times, and the assignment of particular patterns or "setts" to a particular clan is purely a Victorian fantasy. There were some pre-1745 tartans associated with districts, probably mostly because the local weavers had favorite patterns and tended to weave a lot of them. But there was no organized "system" such as they have now.

That historical excuse gives me free rein to avoid tartans that I hate and wear the ones that I like. My dad's family's "official" tartan is dull and boring, so I wear one of my mom's many patterns. She's a MacDonald of Glencoe, but I like the MacDonald of the Isles better, so I wear that. My husband's Marr tartan is hideous and enough of it to cover 6'6" of quarter-Scot, quarter-Irish, and half Heinz 57 would be a public eyesore, so he wears Gordon, with which he has sort of a vague family connection through his dad.

Somebody once asked a Lowland Scot if his family had a tartan, and he replied, "No. Thank God my family could always afford to wear pants."

28 posted on 05/19/2008 6:54:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: varialectio
How it does.

I have that same picture demonstrating the use of a belted plaid in an old book on tartans from the late 50s or early 60s.

In 1967 I was a competitive Highland Dancer. Girls still wore kilts in those days, the "Flora MacDonald" outfit didn't come in until later, unless you were dancing the Lilt.

29 posted on 05/19/2008 6:57:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: dynachrome
My London relations appear to have successfully stayed out of trouble before they immigrated to Newark NJ (which was actually a nice place in the 1790s!)

Neat website.

30 posted on 05/19/2008 7:00:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ConorMacNessa
IF William Wallace spoke Gaelic (which I profoundly doubt - he was from Ayrshire or somewhere thereabouts and they thought the Highlanders were barbarous savages from the north and west), he would have spoken Scots Gaelic, not Irish.

It's "Alba gu braith!"

31 posted on 05/19/2008 7:06:38 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Thanks Blam.
In the book, Trevor-Roper claims that Scotland’s literary and political traditions, which claim to date back to the Roman invasion of Scotland in the first century AD, are in fact based on myth and were largely invented in the 18th century... Scots are also accused of fabricating their own literary tradition, culminating in the publication of The Works of Ossian. These were claimed to have been translated from ancient sources in Gaelic about the lives of Celtic heroes, but have long been suspected of being a figment of the imagination of James Macpherson, the 18th-century Scottish poet who claimed to have translated them.
I don't think there are many who regard Ossian as anything but a recent invention; I don't doubt that this isn't a unique approach, though. :')

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32 posted on 05/19/2008 9:36:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: dynachrome

Ouch, me ancestors were a randy lot I’ve got to say. Me pur people had a need fer pickin pockets and the like also. No, not nice fellows at all.


33 posted on 05/19/2008 9:43:50 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Right. Anyone who's even heard of Ossian knows that literary critics have been taking for granted that the poetry was a fake, since forever and a day.

Likewise, the modern kilt is ... modern. However, plaid stuff that shows off a guy's hairy knees has been around forever and a day, also.
What are we going to get next? Eminent historian declares that it is unlikely that George Washington actually chopped down a cherry tree with his little hatchet.
34 posted on 05/19/2008 9:49:14 PM PDT by Mariebl
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Hoot mon, only we wild and barbarian scots could invent haggis and deem it fit food for humans.

Ye canna take that distinction awa from us.


35 posted on 05/20/2008 6:00:08 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Mariebl
Grant Wood beat the 'eminent historians' to it 70 years ago . . .


36 posted on 05/20/2008 6:36:45 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: blam
Sounds like total BS.

Never trust anyone who writes a book that is not to be published until five years after his death.

37 posted on 05/20/2008 7:11:19 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: edcoil

Wasn’t he Welsh?


38 posted on 05/20/2008 3:09:12 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: blam

Don’t know who invented pants put they are a very bad idea. Kilts are so sensible given the First Law of Human Male Thermo-Dynamics. That being give your b**ls some air.


39 posted on 05/20/2008 3:25:55 PM PDT by gost2
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To: TheMom; humblegunner

Ping!


40 posted on 05/20/2008 3:26:57 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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