Posted on 06/17/2008 1:03:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
ROFLOL
To Jim Robinson and any of the legal eagles reading this thread,
All of these AP stories and the boycott you have implemented has got me to thinking a bit on the subject of posting stories.
IIRC Book reviewers can quotes extensively from a book to aide in their review.
Can the same rule be applied to reviewing News Articles?
If so can blog sites and discussion forums change their format to a News Article Review format and then the discussion can be on the article and the story itself and thus be within fair use law?
I've always considered FR as a site that reviews the news of the day anyhow.
This may be a question for your legal team. And it maybe the answer to the increasing choke-hold the MSM is trying to put on the free-flow of information on the Internet.
Just a thought.
Mad Dawgg
If it were a news article I can see us wanting to use it, but since the AP pretty much writes only fiction...it’s no loss to us.
I notice the lib sites, democrats.com and democratunderground.com allow posting of entire articles, sometimes they forget the link to the article.
I know the 300 word limit here really is bad esp when the linked website requires a password making it off the charts for most readers.
I see Jim’s point and in his position I see no other choice for him to make than to boycott the AP here at FR, at least for now. What would be better is to have someone stand on the AP’s shiny shoes, breathe bad breath right in their face, and challenge them directly on these new rules and fees they are trying to impose.
Just how does AP think it is going to enforce any of the rules that they are making up out of thin air?? It seems to me that the best thing that could happen is for someone to challenge the AP in court over these restrictions under the anti-monopoly laws. I don’t believe AP could stand a well-funded challenge in a real court, and there are plenty of young attorneys who are members of FR who would dearly love to file that lawsuit.
In fact, I wonder if there isn’t grounds for a class-action lawsuit against AP...
Boycott the AP for certain, but the effort cannot stop there. We have been conducting the “Dinosaur Media Death Watch” here at FR for almost a decade. This move by AP is predictable and doomed for failure if challenged properly.
Kill the beast while it’s wounded...
In a controlled and premeditated way, maybe FR should violate AP’s arbitrary “standards”, go to court, and make a federal case out of it. Maybe boost FR fame as a result.
Note, I’m suggesting controlled and premeditated, with much pre-planning and forethought.
Just a suggestion. For what it’s worth.
So now how does any blogger site a source? A blind link to the ap?
Sounds like they would be mad that they aren’t being sited properly.
I don’t see how the hell they will enforce this.
I’ve gotten along without AP for years, so I won’t miss them.
To quote Margaret Houlihan in M*A*S*H, when sitting around the Swamp with BJ and Hawkeye, referring to Frank Burns, “Who WAS that?”
Yah. Like that.
“Boycott...WHY?”
Because they’re using their superior economic power to try to intimidate bloggers, which is what *you* are if you post this website. Because the use of excerpted portions of copyrighted material is legal.
Now, would you like to explain why you’ve taken an interest playing defense for the AP?
What’s an AP?
Oh! -—— You mean those media has-beens?
The answer is simple. Just link to posts on DU or the other liberal sites which are quoting AP. AP cannot enforce a secondary link without first enforcing the primary link.
AP is another DINOSAUR. AP - your time is over...
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