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Iran threatens to block Gulf oil route if attacked
Khaleej Times Online ^ | June 28, 2008 | Khaleej Times Online

Posted on 06/28/2008 6:36:04 AM PDT by John W

TEHERAN - Iran reiterated that it would block the oil export route in the Persian Gulf if attacked, a Teheran newspaper reported Saturday.

"It is understood that a country would use all possible options against an aggressor if militarily attacked. In that case, Iran would also intensify control of the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz," the commander of the paramilitary Revolutionary Guards told Jam'e Jam daily.

General Mohammad Ali Jafari also warned neighbouring countries not to take part in any military strike plans against Iran.

The general made the statement in reference to reports that the United States and Israel might attack the main Iranian nuclear site in Natanz, central Iran, after the Islamic state once again refused to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

In earlier statements, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned that the country would be justified in using all options in the event of an attack. He also had not ruled out blocking the Persian Gulf blockade and using controls on oil supplies as a weapon.

A major part of regional oil exports are piped through the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, and a blockade could trigger a worldwide energy crisis.

Jafari also warned Israel that the Jewish state was within the range of Iranian missiles and indicated that any Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites would be retaliated against by missile attacks.

Earlier this month, the Israeli air force held an exercise that US officials say appeared to be a rehearsal for a potential attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

Iran's medium-range Shahab-3 missile reportedly has a range of between 1,300 and 2,000 kilometres and is said to be able to reach any part of Israeli territory.


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Lets try this again. No sign of the AP even contributing that I can find at the Khaleej Times.
1 posted on 06/28/2008 6:36:04 AM PDT by John W
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To: John W

Has Mr Jafari consulted with the Fifth Fleet on his plans to block the gulf, yet?

Without their consent, he will have difficulty enacting his plan.


2 posted on 06/28/2008 6:39:37 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: John W
In earlier statements, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned that the country would be justified in using all options in the event of an attack. He also had not ruled out blocking the Persian Gulf blockade and using controls on oil supplies as a weapon.

And somehow he actually thinks we would not do the same if a blockade was attempted?

I wonder how his "all options" stack up against our "all options."

3 posted on 06/28/2008 6:40:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: John W

Blocking the Strait of Hormuz sounds easier than it would be.

It’s not a canal.

You could block it for awhile with a naval force and artillery, but both of those can be taken out by superior forces.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 6:41:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: John W
por supuesto
5 posted on 06/28/2008 6:56:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: John W

Blocking the Strait of Hormuz would probably make China and India unhappy in addition to the usual oil buyers.


6 posted on 06/28/2008 7:02:11 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Blaming CO2 for global warming is like blaming your thermometer for your kid's fever.)
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To: John W

Do these guys have no idea what out military is capable of??


7 posted on 06/28/2008 7:02:17 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: sam_paine

This is the reason why we have to drill and use alternative energy sources,this guy wouldn’t dare say this if they didn’t have the world in bondage over oil! We have done nothing in 30 years and our government should all be fired!


8 posted on 06/28/2008 7:04:05 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: sam_paine

They made this same threat in the 80’s. My fellow squids and I, and the gyrenes showed up in force and they blinked. When they did later give it a try we sunk a substantial portion of their Navy, in a few hours.

I hope they try again, because I still hold a grudge against these kidnapping, dirt-worshipping primitives. Islam sucks.


9 posted on 06/28/2008 7:04:32 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Dog Gone

Somehow I’m reminded of the scene in Blazing Saddles where
the sheriff holds a gun to his head and says, “Anybody move
and the Sheriff gets it.”

Does Amadinijad think he can blockade the gulf while his tankers continue to travel freely? I got news for him.

What if we WANT to blockade the gulf?
All we have to do is launch some attack against Iran and they will do it for us. Hahahaha.


10 posted on 06/28/2008 7:05:05 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: John W

a blockade could trigger a worldwide energy crisis.

Which just might be enough to wake up the world to find
alternative ways to power our economies.

If Iran can’t ship crude, how are they going to get fuel
for their tanks etc.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 7:08:41 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: John W

.....General Mohammad Ali Jafari also warned neighbouring countries......

He knows the score. He sees it coming.

The Coalition Of The Threatened will play a major role in removing the General from power once the war begins. We have not been provided with the method of initial attack, but should be able to make out the outlines of the destruction of Iranian capabilities once it actually starts.


12 posted on 06/28/2008 7:09:42 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: John W

Watch deployment of US naval forces in the Gulf for an indication of an imminent Israeli attack on Iran.


13 posted on 06/28/2008 7:10:52 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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To: sam_paine
Without their consent, he will have difficulty enacting his plan.

Good analysis! Kudos!

14 posted on 06/28/2008 7:11:42 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: John W
I think headline was supposed to read:

Israel's strike on Iran's oil refineries will block Iran's flow of oil and cripple their economy.

There must have been something lost in the translation.

15 posted on 06/28/2008 7:21:01 AM PDT by GOPyouth (Osama and Obama are both against President Bush.)
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To: tet68

“DO WHAT HE SAY-ES...DO WHAT HE SAY-ES”


16 posted on 06/28/2008 7:22:53 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Bobalu
"Do these guys have no idea what out military is capable of??"

I'm sure they do. However, they are counting on an "Obama" military that would be very different from a Bush military or McCain military.

17 posted on 06/28/2008 7:22:59 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: red irish
This is the reason why we have to drill and use alternative energy sources.... We have done nothing in 30 years and our government should all be fired!

With all due respect, FRiend, that attitude is part of the problem.

(1) "done nothing" is completely untrue.

Drive through West Texas, Oklahoma etc and you will see BOOMING oil production ON PRIVATE LAND. New wells left and right. Additionally, the Barnett shale around Ft Worth is being hammered so hard, that they are drilling in the PARKING LOTS of the University of Texas at Arlington for natural gas!

Not to mention the Bakken fields and elsewhere, IOW ....supply has kept up with demand.

(2) "Done nothing" is greatly preferred to the "we" you imply when you say "our government should all be fired!" The less "our government" meddles, the better off we'll be. ANWR and "public land" drilling just gives the congress an addicting taste of PEMEX and nationalized oil. When the Feds start basking in the royalties off those wells, hell, why not nationalize the private ones?

The best we can hope from the federal government is to ease permitting for refineries and such, and the first one in 30 years was just approved in the Dakotas...but I'd gladly pay taxes to keep congress in a nice salary if they'd just promise to go on vacation and do NO MORE HARM.

18 posted on 06/28/2008 7:24:18 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: John W

Sounds like Vince Flynn’s “Protect and Defend”.


19 posted on 06/28/2008 7:25:01 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: John W

Is he going to block it w/his navy on the bottom of the gulf? If you like $5/gal, Thank Congress. If you want $10/gal, Vote Obama.

Pray for W and Our Troops


20 posted on 06/28/2008 7:30:23 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: Bobalu
"Do these guys have no idea what out military is capable of??"

Unfortunately, they are betting that we have no resolve to support another skirmish in the region. They are gambling that we fear a war. A President Obama will pacify them.

21 posted on 06/28/2008 7:30:23 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: John W

Liberals always accuse us for going to war over oil. Maybe just once we can give validity to their little rant. Lets go attack Iran, get rid of their nukes, monkey and mullahs.
Then we take over their oil as payback for Iranian influence in killing fellow Americans all these past years.
Turn the liberal lies into truth....sweet irony that would be!


22 posted on 06/28/2008 7:40:12 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ExpatGator
Yes Sir.. I recall a You Tube flick where a US skipper says “ “Iranian War ship,Iranian War ship, heave to for I intend to sink you!!!!”.. I don’t think that had been said since the War of 1812 !!!
23 posted on 06/28/2008 7:45:43 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: John W

40% of world oil goes through the Straits of Hormuz.

Any blocking of those straits would constitute grounds for war.


24 posted on 06/28/2008 7:46:52 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: John W
If Iran really made a move to block the straits by attacking either international shipping vessels or (really foolish) a U. S. Navy vessel, they would lose their navy, air force and all ports within 24 hours.

They would have to wait for an Osama presidency - then BHO would sit down and talk with them - maybe even, send Madelene Albright or Jesse Jackson as a special envoy.

25 posted on 06/28/2008 7:54:53 AM PDT by MarkT
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To: John W
In theory, they could block the Strait of Hormuz using mines. The marine underwriters would then cancel insurance on all the tanker traffic in the Gulf. This would effectively close it.

They tried this before -- Google "Operation Praying Mantis". The bottom line is the US sank the Iranian Navy, and they didn't do this again.

If the next President of the United States has a pair, they won't do this.

If the next President of the United States doesn't, and is going to respond by chain-smoking menthol cigarettes and put his thumb up his butt, we will have a problem.


26 posted on 06/28/2008 8:13:10 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: tet68

The world economic effect would depend on how long oil shipping through the Strait of Hormuz is suspended. If a day to a week, the effect would be minimal. If a month it would begin to be serious. If longer than three months it would take years to restabilize. It all depends on how soon and how large the Navy can move to neutralize the threat.


27 posted on 06/28/2008 8:13:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Dog Gone

I’d say they could, at best, block it for a day. Their navy considers a speedboat a warship. The biggest potential threat would be mining which should be relatively easy to detect and stop.
I’d say a pipeline to get oil out via a less dangerous waterway would be advisable, but it’s hard to think of a country to run it through that I’d want having more power. I wouldn’t even trust Turkey with that much additional power.


28 posted on 06/28/2008 8:41:42 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: John W

good, so we can clear out their ‘navy’ and see how they like having no ships to defend their ports


29 posted on 06/28/2008 8:41:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: John W

Good luck with your plans Iran. I’m pushing 50 and I’ll sign up to help defeat their plans. It’s either that or Dinty Moore Stew every day. We are fighting for our economic survival. The river is being dammed upstream by enemies.


30 posted on 06/28/2008 8:56:16 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse

We have airlines nearing collapse, laying off people, general malaise and discontent caused by other humans hoarding a resource. If it was water and we were dying from drought, we would have no qualms about taking steps to secure supplies.


31 posted on 06/28/2008 8:58:48 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: sam_paine

After our nukes vaporize the Iraninan government, there will not be anything left to block the Gulf oil routes.


32 posted on 06/28/2008 8:59:12 AM PDT by Stayfree (**********************************************FLUSH HILLARY!!)
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To: John W

If they want to see how we live without oil, they can find out what it’s like to live without water.


33 posted on 06/28/2008 9:09:15 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: John W
Within a week, every ship and plane Iran has would be utterly annihilated.
34 posted on 06/28/2008 9:24:13 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Bobalu
Do these guys have no idea what our military is capable of??

Yes, the Iranians know what out military is capable of.

The Iranian bluster is for the benefit of the liberal news media who are their anti-American propaganda allies and their Sheeple readers who do not know.

Operation Praying Mantis


Iranian frigate IS SAHAND (74) burns after being attacked by aircraft of Carrier Air Wing II from USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) on 18 April 1988

35 posted on 06/28/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Bobalu; Free ThinkerNY; freekitty; No Surrender No Retreat; ncfool; SouthTexas; gonzo; TXRed; ...

Is that before or after Obama dismantles our military and surrenders to terrorists around the world with the help of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the rest of the Liberal traitors???


36 posted on 06/28/2008 9:44:44 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Polybius
One group, consisting of the destroyers USS Merrill (DD 976) and USS Lynde McCormick (DDG 8), plus the amphibious transport dock USS Trenton (LPD-14), neutralized the Sassan oil platform. The Iranian personnel on the platform were given the opportunity to abandon it for a tugboat waiting alongside, but instead chose to open fire on Merrill, whose 5 inch, 54 caliber guns quickly dispatched the smaller, platform-mounted Iranian gun. Immediately afterward, U.S. Marines from Marine Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF) 2-88 fast-roped onto the Sassan platform, gathered intelligence, and set explosives to render it unusable.

Big mistake.

37 posted on 06/28/2008 9:57:32 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

If I was a betting man, I’d say before winter.


38 posted on 06/28/2008 10:02:13 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: John W

If we had been expanding the drilling for oil here at home then Iran’s threats wouldn’t have as much weight.


39 posted on 06/28/2008 12:05:11 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: sam_paine
Without their (Fifth Fleet) consent, he will have difficulty enacting his plan.

Maybe, maybe not. Passive denial at choke points is easier than active defense. For instance, without deploying a single vessel, all the Iranians need to do is announce they mined the straits.

40 posted on 06/28/2008 1:59:40 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Vote McCain - It's better to hold your nose than grab your ankles.)
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To: John W

Threatening to block Gulf oil is one of the very good reasons to partition Iran.

A crescent shaped partition from northwest Iran to southeast Iran would take Iranian Kurdistan and give it to Iraqi Kurdistan to create a “greater Kurdistan”. The partition would continue South and take the Bushehr reactor, taking it out of the equation. Then further South into Arab Khuzestan, taking out most of Iran’s oil, and giving that area to Iraq. Finally to the southeast, taking mineral rich Iranian Baluchistan and giving it to Pakistan, to unite with Pakistani Baluchistan.

This would take away the money, oil, and mineral resources the Iranians would need to rebuild their nuclear weapons program, and it would cut them off from the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea, so they could no longer menace much of the world’s oil supply.

The lands would be turned over to Kurdistan, Iraq and Pakistan, all of which could defend them if the Iranian military and IRGC were reduced from the air.

Iran would once again become just Persia, after losing its hated and powerless minorities. And though it might continue to have nuclear ambitions, it would be incapable of doing anything about them.


41 posted on 06/28/2008 2:37:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Either way this is going to be a real mess... If Israel strikes expect 10$ for gas.


42 posted on 06/28/2008 5:19:25 PM PDT by petertare (--)
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To: Bobalu
Do these guys have no idea what out military is capable of??

Of course they do, they just don't fear the Wimp in charge, which currently seems to be Condi Rice and the Communist State Department(ours).

43 posted on 06/28/2008 5:23:41 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: wildbill
Any blocking of those straits would constitute grounds for war.

Actually OPEC itself is grounds for War. It is essentially a blockade, tho economic rather than physical. Same result.

44 posted on 06/28/2008 5:27:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: bert
.....General Mohammad Ali Jafari also warned neighbouring countries......

He knows the score. He sees it coming.

I thought with all of the meetings and concerns between Israel and the U.S. that Iran would have been attacked a couple of years ago. Maybe we were trying to get more stability in Iraq first? It's tied up alot of Syria and Iran's terrorists who have gone to fight us in Iraq.

I agree with you about this statement though. It does seem to make an attack seem imminent.

45 posted on 06/28/2008 5:35:38 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: John W
I have one question, and one question only:

Are the Iranians stupider now than before?

Did the previous excersie tell us anything about Iranian threats?

pertion Praying Mantis

46 posted on 06/28/2008 5:52:51 PM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun
click here

Don't know how the previous link went bad.

47 posted on 06/28/2008 5:58:17 PM PDT by raygun
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To: John W

Let’s get this crap over with!

Attack now! Screw all these threats!


48 posted on 06/28/2008 5:58:54 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: All

DUDE!


49 posted on 06/28/2008 5:59:29 PM PDT by raygun
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To: John W
In earlier statements, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned that the country would be justified in using all options in the event of an attack. He also had not ruled out blocking the Persian Gulf blockade and using controls on oil supplies as a weapon.

A major part of regional oil exports are piped through the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, and a blockade could trigger a worldwide energy crisis.

Ol'Amanutjob better be careful because he might end up with no Country to lead and no virgins left!

50 posted on 06/28/2008 6:49:32 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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