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Zondervan faces $60M federal lawsuit over Bible, homosexuality
WOOD TV Grand Rapids, MI. ^ | July 8, 2008 10:58 PM | Tony Tagliavia

Posted on 07/08/2008 8:27:57 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan

Christian publisher Zondervan is facing a $60 million federal lawsuit filed by a man who claims he and other homosexuals have suffered based on what the suit claims is a misinterpretation of the Bible.


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To: MaryFromMichigan

If he is so sure of himself that the translation is WRONG, has he offered any explanation as to what it DOES mean?


41 posted on 07/08/2008 9:48:08 PM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasnÂ’t enough experience.)
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To: MarineBrat
The passage from the Vulgate in Latin that you posted mentions "neque" which I gather means "neither" and then lists three classes of people, none of which sounds like it refers to homosexuals: fornicarii, idoles servientes, adulteri.

Sounds like fornicators, servants of idols, adulterers.

Anybody speak Latin out there?

42 posted on 07/08/2008 9:48:37 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: eyedigress

This guy is representing himself. His complaint consists of nine handwritten pages of semi-legible, semi-literate crap. He’s also requested that the court appoint counsel to represent him pro bono.

Since it cost me $0.72 to view the document, I went ahead and downloaded a copy to my hard drive. I’d be happy to e-mail it to anyone who would like to look at it.


43 posted on 07/08/2008 10:04:38 PM PDT by Huntress (Ivy League Prole)
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To: Alouette

Hmmm...I wonder if it says something similar in Hebrew?


44 posted on 07/08/2008 10:25:31 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: MarineBrat

I’m no Scripture scholar, but I was taught by several. One told us in class that the most accurate translation for the Greek word St. Paul uses, most often translated as “sodomites” or “homosexuals,” was m@#$%&f@#$%&s.


45 posted on 07/08/2008 10:30:30 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: therut

Impressive eisogesis!


46 posted on 07/08/2008 10:36:45 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
This had better be thrown out, but you can bet that this is only a sign of things to come. The gays are feeling their oats, so to speak, and the persecution against Christians in this nation is just beginning.

The sodomites are going to use every tactic they can to try to attack Christ and his church, until they can finally use the law against us and drive the church back into catacombs.

47 posted on 07/08/2008 10:37:12 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

I sure am looking forward to having a Moslem president, what with Islam being tolerant of diversity of faith.


48 posted on 07/08/2008 10:37:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

A rose by any other name—would still stink up the place.

How does this idiot establish willful intent by Zondervan to harm him?

Would it be too much to expect to tell the plaintiff to get lost and stop wasting the court’s time?

And gee, is every gay person a friggin’ victim, or what?


49 posted on 07/08/2008 10:48:05 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Ping.


50 posted on 07/08/2008 10:56:27 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

He should read it in the greek.

NT:733 arsenokoites (ar-sen-ok-oy’-tace); from NT:730 and NT:2845; a sodomite

That is such a descriptive word, arsenokoites; hard to ‘mistranslate’. It just depends on how ‘family friendly’ any particular Version’s translators wanted to be.


51 posted on 07/08/2008 11:01:40 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: uptoolate

Why not ?


52 posted on 07/08/2008 11:11:32 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Bryan24

“adulteri” is “adulterers.” The relevant Latin continues with the next verse.

neque molles neque masculorum concubitores
neque fures neque avari neque ebriosi neque maledici neque rapaces regnum Dei possidebunt.


53 posted on 07/08/2008 11:29:42 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: MaryFromMichigan

What a crock (and this is obviously comming..the Anti-Christian Crudade). Those whom follow CHRIST-Remember to pray for your ~enemies~ (God forgave us when we were His enemies not covered by His Blood!!~). It is their Rebellion against God, and their Pride that attacks those of you living for The Truth, and refusing to capitulate to acceptance of evil “as good”.


54 posted on 07/08/2008 11:30:49 PM PDT by JSDude1 (It;s only a protest vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd-pissant)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Frankly, I would welcome this lawsuit. We should pray it's long and drawn out with plenty of publicity. They are the ones that will have to endure testimony after testimony of the meanings of dozens of verses. It should be covered like they do Madonna or Britney, night after night.

Each night we could read and discuss the verses that clearly state God says they are an abomination. It would be a better Bible study than most Christians get in church on Sunday.

55 posted on 07/08/2008 11:51:26 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I’m guessing the ACLU will back this clown.


56 posted on 07/09/2008 2:00:48 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: JWinNC

All of the misery and suffering that this man has in his life can be traced to one line in a certain Bible. It has nothing to do with his own choices and actions. If Zondervan had edited this passage before printing that particular Bible, his life would have been wonderful.


57 posted on 07/09/2008 4:10:31 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
NT:733 arsenokoites (ar-sen-ok-oy’-tace); from NT:730 and NT:2845; a sodomite

My goodness! I don't know much Greek, but I think I have that one figured out!

58 posted on 07/09/2008 4:16:37 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

BTT


59 posted on 07/09/2008 8:39:26 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I THINK THEY SHOLD SAY “FINE” AND CHANGE IT TO SODOMITE. AND THIS SODOMITE GETS NOTHING.


60 posted on 07/09/2008 10:14:15 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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