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Berg Outraged: Obama & DNC file motion to delay discovery until ... motion to dismiss is decided
Obama Crimes ^ | October 6, 2008 | Press Release

Posted on 10/07/2008 6:34:24 PM PDT by Dajjal

Berg is “Outraged” that Obama & DNC Hide Again Behind Legal Issues as their attorney files a Motion for Protective Order to “not” Answer Admissions & Production of Documents while Betraying Public in not Producing Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a candidate for President.

It is believed Obama is an “illegal alien” For Immediate Release: - 10/06/08

(Contact info and pdf of press release below)

Country is Headed to a Constitutional Crisis

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.

Furthermore, and actually more important is Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship that he received when he returned from Indonesia, as if it exists it would indicate that Obama was “naturalized” and also not able to be President.

The DNC has promised “we the people” an Open and Honest Government and has promised to uphold our United States Constitution. The DNC has failed their promise. DNC Chairperson Howard Dean should resign as he has not and is not fulfilling his responsibility of seeing that a “qualified” candidate is on the ballot as the Democratic candidate for President of the United States.

Berg stated that a response in opposition will be filed in the next day or so to the Defendants Motion for a Protective Order.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 21.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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PDF of the Press Release
1 posted on 10/07/2008 6:34:24 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

They sure are trying awfully hard to avoid exposing “nothing”.


2 posted on 10/07/2008 6:36:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: cripplecreek

more proof BO is the Anti-Christ


3 posted on 10/07/2008 6:38:17 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: Dajjal

Thanks, it sure is WEIRD they won’t just produce the document...they’re almost screaming “it doesn’t exist”.


4 posted on 10/07/2008 6:39:45 PM PDT by thatdewd
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To: Dajjal

This was posted last night. There’s another thread I started with a bunch of replies.


5 posted on 10/07/2008 6:43:14 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: cripplecreek
They sure are trying awfully hard to avoid exposing “nothing

It sure seems that way

WHat judge is going to have the nads to get this heard before the election

If ever a case merited national MSM coverage this is it
6 posted on 10/07/2008 6:47:46 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Dajjal

The people asking the questions at the debate tonight need to reading FR.

McCain may not be the greatest but he is truthful and he is not a snake salesman like the Zero.


7 posted on 10/07/2008 6:48:31 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: Dajjal

Is it really this hard for Obama to find a copy of his COLB?


8 posted on 10/07/2008 6:48:59 PM PDT by jerry557
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To: NoobRep
This was posted last night. There’s another thread I started with a bunch of replies.

You posted the "America's Right" report of the BHO/DNC motion (a secondary source).

This is Philip Berg's "Obama Crimes" press release of his own reaction to the BHO/DNC motion (a primary source).

I did a number of searches, and did not see it available on FreeRepublic.

9 posted on 10/07/2008 6:50:09 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: jerry557
Is it really this hard for Obama to find a copy of his COLB?

Berg does not want his COLB -- he wants Obama to produce the long (vault) copy of his birth certificate, naming the hospital and the doctor, giving his birth weight, etc.

10 posted on 10/07/2008 6:53:14 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

This is proof, in and of itself, that Obama-Sotero is hiding the truth.

What can WE do to bring this front and center since McCain obviously doesn’t think it’s “appropriate”?


11 posted on 10/07/2008 6:55:12 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: Dajjal

I thought the Obama wasn’t born in the US stuff was nuts, but it is starting to seem clear that he was born in another country.

Why go through all this hassle when all he needs to do is produce a birth certificate?


12 posted on 10/07/2008 6:55:22 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Dajjal
President Barry Obama-Sotero

Illegal Immigrant!

Doing The Job Americans Don't Want Done

13 posted on 10/07/2008 7:03:42 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: Dajjal
Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

Interesting; if Obama should win the election (God forbid) and be sworn in a POUS and he should be found to be not eligible for the office, what would be done?

If he refused to resign would impeachment and removal from office be required under the constitution? With Dims in control of both houses of congress would they fulfill their duty to the constitution remove a member of their own party from office?

These are interesting questions that I would rather not see acted out in real life.

I hope this judge does not drag his feet. These are questions that Obama needs to answer forth with.

14 posted on 10/07/2008 7:03:51 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Dajjal

How can he be an illegal alien?

His mother was definitely an American citizen.


15 posted on 10/07/2008 7:12:08 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: ConservativeGreek

Its a question of Natural Born citizen, as spelled out in the constitution. Its not a question of whether he is a citizen.

The constitution is amazingly detailed in its definition.


16 posted on 10/07/2008 7:18:26 PM PDT by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: jerry557

They are arguing more in this case than just a COLB. The best legal option is to decline the case.


17 posted on 10/07/2008 7:20:44 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Above My Pay Grade

he doesn’t produce a birth certificate becausse he doesn’t have one-
which means:
his mother isn’t who he says she is-
OR HE ISN’T WHO HE SAYS HE IS-


18 posted on 10/07/2008 7:24:43 PM PDT by okokie (40 days of Prayer and fasting to end abortion Sept 24-Nov 2 http://www.40daysforlife.com/splash.cfm)
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To: Dajjal

Totally predictable on both sides.


19 posted on 10/07/2008 7:25:09 PM PDT by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: Dajjal

Well, let’s see, Obama and Hillary, lawyers(stick together) are both getting delays.

What does that say?


20 posted on 10/07/2008 7:51:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Dajjal

Suppose irrefutable proof of a foreign birth is ‘found’ after the election and Obama has won? What happens then? And even if he loses? And I’m a little curious to know why Hillary isn’t more curious about her former opponent? It’s a little different than Kerry hiding his papers regarding the war.


21 posted on 10/07/2008 7:59:08 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: realcleanguy

Are they afraid the father will be listed as...could it be Satan?


22 posted on 10/07/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by edge10
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To: edge10

I think that is obvious


23 posted on 10/07/2008 8:02:53 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: Dajjal

btt


24 posted on 10/07/2008 8:29:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: uncbob
WHat judge is going to have the nads to get this heard before the election

You nailed this one. If Obama is elected, I can hardly wait for the Supreme Court to have to make a ruling.

26 posted on 10/07/2008 8:37:51 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: festus

constitution is amazingly detailed

I understand but........

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

But the website refers to him as an illegal alien.


27 posted on 10/07/2008 8:56:13 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: festus
The constitution is amazingly detailed in its definition.

There are only three requirements listed. While the age and residency requirements are pretty clear-cut, the term "natural born" is left to other sources to define.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

28 posted on 10/07/2008 9:07:52 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Dajjal

INTREP


29 posted on 10/07/2008 9:10:25 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: ConservativeGreek; festus
But the website refers to him as an illegal alien.

Berg's argument goes something like this: When Lolo Soetoro married Sydney Dunham and formally adopted Barry he conferred Indonesian citizenship upon them both; and they both lost their US citizenship (because the US recognizes dual citizenship only with nations that do likewise, which Indonesia does not).

When Sydney divorced him and returned to Hawaii, she ought to have renounced her Indonesian citizenship before a judge or authority in order to restore her US citizenship (as a "[re]naturalized" citizen; not as a "natural born" citizen); Barry / Barack should have done this when he reached the age of majority.

Berg strongly suspects that neither of them ever did this. He is demanding to see BHO's signed loyalty oath and is getting stonewalled.

If BHO never even became a "[re]naturalized citizen" then he is still an Indonesian, and has illegally resided in the US, run for public offices in Illinois, etc.

[N.B. Berg would need to establish that Lolo did formally adopt Barry; Barry was probably too old a child to obtain Indonesian citizenship automatically by his mother's marriage to an Indonesian, under Indonesian law. At least, this is how I understand the allegations.]

30 posted on 10/07/2008 9:30:45 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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I agree with the concept. Obama can make this ALL GO AWAY by simply showing the necessary documents. Once he does that it’s CASE CLOSED. By doing that, he would make Berg and his supporters look like fools.

But he’s “lawyering up” on such a simple, slam dunk response.


31 posted on 10/07/2008 9:53:06 PM PDT by curling
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To: Dajjal

Can someone get a copy of this from the actual public records in Pennsylvania? “Obama Crimes” doesn’t seem like the best source for this, if it is in fact a real document.


32 posted on 10/07/2008 10:32:04 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Joe Biden: The Michael Scott of politics)
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To: Dajjal

...and, supposedly, infant footprint...


33 posted on 10/07/2008 10:56:49 PM PDT by TXnMA (To anger a conservative: lie about him. To anger a liberal: tell the truth...)
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To: Dajjal

Thanks.

Wow, I didn’t know this was so deep.


34 posted on 10/08/2008 4:40:35 AM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: Dajjal

I thought that the judge ruled against their motion to dismiss or is an appeal?


35 posted on 10/08/2008 6:52:23 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Senator Obama, the truth hurts doesn't it.)
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To: nikos1121
I thought that the judge ruled against their motion to dismiss or is an appeal?

I've just checked the best sources, and unless something has happened in the last few minutes and is not online anywhere, Judge R. Barclay Surrick has not yet ruled one way or the other on the BHO/DNC motion to dismiss.

36 posted on 10/08/2008 1:27:43 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Can someone get a copy of this from the actual public records in Pennsylvania? “Obama Crimes” doesn’t seem like the best source for this, if it is in fact a real document.

I haven't used it but the actual court documents are all on the site used as a source for this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095499/posts
Berg files motion asking court to deny Obama's dismissal request [No order]

United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ^ | October 1, 2008 | JustiaDocs
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:16:50 PM by conservativegramma

As I said, I haven't used it, but I recall a Freeper posting that on JustiaDocs (docs.justia.com) you can view (or was it print?) the first 90 pages for free, and after that there was some nominal charge per page. I think it was 90 -- but check their rules yourself before you enter.

I do not know if JustiaDocs is technically the same as the PACER System (Public Access to Court Electronic Records). If they are different, I haven't used the PACER System either. They also have a nominal charge. Here is the url for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania subsite of PACER:
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/us01001.asp

Note also that the parties have typically been filing their motions late in the day; so if Berg slips something over the desk at 4:59 PM it won't be on the official site until the next working day, whereas the Freepers and bloggers and PUMAs will have it up at their websites right away.

37 posted on 10/08/2008 1:58:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: TXnMA
...and, supposedly, infant footprint...

Thanks for reminding me -- that would be extremely useful!!!!!

38 posted on 10/08/2008 2:01:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

so someone is full of doodoo when they say that he has ruled their motion to dismiss.


39 posted on 10/08/2008 2:21:12 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Senator Obama, the truth hurts doesn't it.)
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To: nikos1121
so someone is full of doodoo when they say that he has ruled their motion to dismiss.

(unless it's just happened) ... ABSOLUTELY!

40 posted on 10/08/2008 2:37:23 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

They are buying time to produce a credible forgery, no doubt.


41 posted on 10/08/2008 8:56:30 PM PDT by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: ducdriver
They are buying time to produce a credible forgery, no doubt.

You know, maybe I've watched too many episodes of Alias, but you'd think that by now BHO could've hired a Marshall Flinkman to do some good forgeries, and got a Sydney Bristow to place them in the appropriate Hawaiian hospital and State files.

42 posted on 10/08/2008 9:12:40 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: ducdriver
Speaking of J. J. Abrams television shows, isn't it curious that his earlier heroine was named Sydney, and his new heroine is named Dunham?
43 posted on 10/08/2008 9:16:57 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal
his earlier heroine was named Sydney, and his new heroine is named Dunham...

No -- I didn't know that! Who is this guy 0bamma Barry? I'm serious, it's like he is keeping whole parts of his life under wraps.

44 posted on 10/08/2008 9:43:57 PM PDT by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: Dajjal

Updated Court Docket ******Shows some court Docs*****

Berg vs Obama

http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/


45 posted on 10/08/2008 10:06:49 PM PDT by Et_Tu_Brute
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To: Et_Tu_Brute; I'm ALL Right!
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/

Thanks! Is there a fee for using JustiaDocs? I looked around the website and couldn't see any mention of charges.

Or maybe JustiaDocs links you to PAEDCE for free and PAEDCE charges you?

46 posted on 10/08/2008 10:36:59 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: All
Speaking of J. J. Abrams television shows, isn't it curious that his earlier heroine was named Sydney, and his new heroine is named Dunham?

Sydney Bristow

Olivia Dunham

47 posted on 10/08/2008 10:53:47 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: cripplecreek

RUSH IS DISCUSSING THE Mysterious BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue right now.

Kenya, Berg, granny, dual-citizenship, etc. all mentioned.

Cats out of the bag.........


48 posted on 10/23/2008 9:29:59 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Beat them at their own game!)
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