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Shift in Jewish vote expected
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Posted on 10/17/2008 2:17:37 AM PDT by tomymind

An evangelist and Middle East expert believes a substantial number of Jewish voters in the U.S. will vote for John McCain because they are deeply concerned about a Barack Obama presidency.

Tom Doyle serves as the Middle East director for the strategic church-planting ministry e3 Partners, and recently released his new book Two Nations Under God: Why You Should Care About Israel. Not only does Doyle believe the people of Israel are nervous about a possible Barack Obama presidency, he believes a growing number of Jewish voters in the America feel the same.

GOP and Democratic logos"Jews who live in America have traditionally voted Democrat. They see themselves as oppressed, and so they seem to liken with similar groups in the country -- and they vote Democrat," he explains.

But the evangelist argues that tendency started to change in 2004 -- and he thinks it will change "big time" in November.

"I think there's a real nervousness [among American Jews]. Is [it] significant enough to change the outcome of the election? I don't know," he admits. "But I think we're going to see more Jews voting for John McCain this time, just because of the 'antsy-ness' they have with Barack Obama."

e3 Partners has offices in Plano, Texas, and in San Diego. Established in 1987, the ministry lays claim to having helped plant more than 12,000 churches around the world.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; fl2008; jewish; jewishvote; jews; mccain; mccainpalin; swingvote; vote
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To: freeangel
Jewish people in Israel any more than many so called Christians are really connected nor care about what is in the Bible

Got a good friend at work, Jewish, and I always quiz him on why he is so adamantly anti-Republican.

He rails on and on about how Republican Christians have secret plans to force Jews and everybody into internment camps and force them to convert to Christianity.

It would be out-loud laughable if it weren't so sad. He really believes this stuff.

21 posted on 10/17/2008 3:54:26 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: rick_p_stedman
Yesterday I was at the local university for a luncheon. At my table was a PhD candidate for anthropology. He is writing his thesis on human behavior in current events from an anthropology perspective. He has spent that last year or so doing very clean research (from what I could tell) on what people are "thinking" about the world. He painted me a scenario that was both alarming and interesting. He thinks Obama will win and that the backlash will be Nazi, skinhead, KKK against the Jews for putting him in. He thinks the anti-Jew furor will boil over and be the focus of people's rage since there is not one other single group that can be pointed at as responsible or "they did it!".

I have no reason to doubt him.

22 posted on 10/17/2008 4:02:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Never mess with an old man. he will just kill you.))
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Well put.


23 posted on 10/17/2008 4:03:24 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Never mess with an old man. he will just kill you.))
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To: trumandogz
the Fudies scared American Jews

No one "tells" anyone how to vote. That is a straw dog argument if I ever heard one.

In American politics, people (regardless of their faith) try to persuade others to vote based on logic and statistics and other factors.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

I explain to my Jewish friends all the time that a growing percentage of Democrats (especially the militant black liberation/ youth vote) are increasingly anti-faith and anti Israel, and that conservatives are the ones who truly support Jews and the Jewish tradition.

Does that mean I am forcing Jews to vote this way or that?

Certainly not.

24 posted on 10/17/2008 4:05:55 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2107391/posts

Maybe Farrahkhan will open the Jewish community’s eyes this weekend (Oct. 19) with his “New Beginnings” celebration. Obama *cannot* separate himself from his past.


25 posted on 10/17/2008 4:14:34 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Bluebird Singing
We can only hope that the “Minister’ shoots his mouth off in his typical style.
26 posted on 10/17/2008 4:18:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Never mess with an old man. he will just kill you.))
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To: tomymind
I don't trust Jews in New York.

Apparently, Obama doesn't either because he has been running commercials on cable TV in the NYC Tri-State area during prime time, and I don't think he would be doing that unless he thinks he is in trouble with New York Jews (and union hard hats).

27 posted on 10/17/2008 4:28:33 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes, he has already called Obama the Messiah.

A correction on my other post - we *cannot* let Obama separate himself from his true self and beliefs (not just his past).


28 posted on 10/17/2008 4:29:20 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Labyrinthos

Nontheless, he will get their votes.


29 posted on 10/17/2008 4:30:24 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: rick_p_stedman

Then read it in context. It wasn’t offensive at all in context.


30 posted on 10/17/2008 4:52:26 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: trumandogz

Why must you use such disparaging remarks?

If it wasn’t for the “fundies,” the Republicans would never win anywhere.

Better to alienate tens of millions of conservatives to appease a few million Jewish liberals?

Jews have never been historically conservative in this country. In fact, they’ve been to the far-left of the political spectrum for the most part.


31 posted on 10/17/2008 4:55:35 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Wright, Ayers, Alinsky, ACORN and Odinga - Attack!!)
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To: tomymind

Jews like all other Americans vote on what they think is best for them and seldom abandon their traditional voting. But for the small percentage for whom the safety of Israel is important, it’s McCain all the way. This is why more older people are switching because they understand what an existential threat is. Obama can’t talk to Ahmadinejad at the same time he leaves open the air space for an Israeli attack, and meanwhile production of nukes goes on. For those who haven’t seen this, this is the view from Israel.

http://www.root-1.co.il/critical.htm


32 posted on 10/17/2008 5:00:27 AM PDT by idov
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To: mad_as_he$$; rick_p_stedman
He thinks Obama will win and that the backlash will be Nazi, skinhead, KKK against the Jews for putting him in. He thinks the anti-Jew furor will boil over and be the focus of people's rage...

It's easy to understand why he is wrong.

Academia never views the left as capable of such vicious crimes against humanity. The more likely scenario is they will have supported the party that destroys them. Jesse Jackson revealed an underlying resentment that will influence policy.

Various groups on the left will very happily support the end of rights they find offensive, such as free speech. They will think it completely appropriate to criminalize any opposition to their views, for example investigations of all decision making involving the WOT. They will see it as "fairness" to take someone else's property to give to another and when all the opposition is gone it will be their turn.

33 posted on 10/17/2008 5:29:24 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: tomymind
The Jewish voter is conditioned to vote for the Democrats.

However, in this election, they do not like Obama, but they are still reluctant to pull the lever for McCain yet.

34 posted on 10/17/2008 5:34:57 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: mad_as_he$$
It could happen. It would be different if 0bama winning was due to his merit and ability. Instead, if he wins, it will more likely be due to fraud. Voter fraud from ACORN and others and professional fraud of the msm and all the news agencies who ignore reporting on anything that might damage 0bama. He is a relatively young man with little history, virtually no accomplishments to warrant his nomination and a host of questionable friends and allies. He's not winning the election, THEY are stealing it. If he wins, at some point popular opinion will turn on him, especially if he enacts any of what he is promising. It won't be pretty. He doesn't have Clinton's charisma and he won't have a good economy.
35 posted on 10/17/2008 5:43:58 AM PDT by GBA
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To: idov

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36 posted on 10/17/2008 5:54:56 AM PDT by doberville
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To: trumandogz
I don't trust Jews in New York.

Well, speaking as a Jew, and a lifelong (proud) New Yorker, I do trust my co-religionists here to vote with their prejudices, and not their brains or their wallets.

37 posted on 10/17/2008 6:39:33 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: doberville

Sorry, absent minded.

http:/www.root-1.co.il/cynical.htm


38 posted on 10/17/2008 6:54:40 AM PDT by idov
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To: wmfights
There is a special that is running on Discovery or History channels where they got unprecedented insight to the world of the KKKetc. They are openly talking about war with the Jews in the very near future.
39 posted on 10/17/2008 6:59:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Never mess with an old man. he will just kill you.))
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To: mad_as_he$$

Great..
Something else I gotta worry about..I am a Jew, lifelong PJ O’Rourke style-Republican and now, I have to worry some idiot thought I voted for Nobama? My own family is running something like this.

Mom: Not voting for Nobama, for the first time, she may vote GOP and pull the lever for McCain.

Gramps: Well, Nobama reminds him of a certain Austrian housepainter. Not going to drink that cool-aid.

Wife: She flirted with the idea of voting for Nobama, till she heard about Bill Ayres...

My in-laws: All going for McCain. And they’re Brooklyn Jews.

Then there’s my Dad. God love him, but he and his family are all in the tank for the Nobamasseiah. Then again, he converted to Catholicism. ;-)


40 posted on 10/17/2008 7:24:35 AM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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