Skip to comments.*Breaking* Due to Procedure, Obama and DNC Admit all Allegations
Posted on 10/21/2008 6:05:29 AM PDT by Calpernia
Original thread can be reviewed here:
So, why is it taking so long? What is the judge waiting for? (Berg vs Obama)
Today's Update by WestCoastGal
Unless the Obama Campaign applies for a withdrawal of admission and shows GOOD CAUSE, as of today, October 21, 2008, the Obama Campaign has legally admitted that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to hold the office of Presidency. Full coverage of this court proceeding can be read here: http://www.americasright.com/
Below is today's legal admission!
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Berg: Due to Procedure, Obama and DNC Admit all Allegations
According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.
On September 15, as part of his federal lawsuit contending that the Illinois senator is ineligible, pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg served Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee with just such a request. Soon thereafter, on October 6, Barack Obama and the DNC acknowledged service in their motion for protective order, filed in an attempt to persuade the court to stay discovery. The Federal Rules require that a response to a request for admissions be served within the 30-day time limit, and Barack Obama and the DNC have not done so.
Therefore, this morning, amidst news reports that Barack Obama will be suspending his campaign for a few days so he can fly to Hawaii to visit his grandmother, who has suddenly fallen ill, Philip Berg will file two motions in district court in Philadelphia:
A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and
A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Bergs motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.
Berg contends that the failure to respond and serve the response within the time limit is damning, and made two appearances overnight on Rollye James talk radio program, the second one coming shortly after midnight, during which he disclosed the meat of todays filings and the legal and political ramifications of the defendants failure to respond.
They did not file answers or objections or anything else to the request for admissions we served upon them on September 15, Berg said to me shortly before midnight, noting that Obama and the DNC did in fact acknowledge service of the admission in their motion for protective order. They knew the admissions were due. They knew they must object or answer specifically in 30 days. Here, they did nothing.
Typically, requests can be used to ascertain three types of information: (1) the veracity of facts, (2) the authenticity of documents, or (3) the application of law to fact. Pretty much anything not privileged is fair game, and while the idea behind such a request is to obtain information, requests for admissions of facts and of the genuine nature of documents are generally not designed as a part of discovery, per se, but rather more of a mechanism used to whittle down proof later in the proceedings.
Unless permitted by the court or allowed pursuant to a written agreement between the parties, the party served with the request must serve a response within 30 days. How serious is a failure to respond? This, from PreTrial, by Thomas A. Mauet:
The automatic provision of Rule 36 makes it a formidable weapon because inertia or inattentiveness can have an automatic, and usually devastating, consequence. Hence, there is one cardinal rule for practice under this provision: Make sure you respond and serve the response within the 30-day period.
Given the usually devastating consequence of failure to respond in time to a request for admissions such as those served upon Obama and the DNC on September 15, just what were some of the admissions that Berg asserts Barack Obama and the DNC have, at least procedurally, admitted to?
Admit you were born in Kenya.
Admit you are a Kenya natural born citizen.
Admit your foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
Admit your father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr., admitted Paternity of you.
Admit your mother gave birth to you in Mombosa, Kenya.
Admit your mothers maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
Admit the COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website Fightthesmears.com is a forgery.
Admit you were adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
Admit you were adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you were not born in Hawaii.
Admit you are a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you never took the Oath of Allegiance to regain your U.S. Citizenship status.
Admit you are not a natural born United States citizen. Admit your senior campaign staff is aware you are not a natural born United States Citizen.
Admit the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a natural born United States citizen.
Admit you are ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.
There are, however, several options for Barack Obama and the DNC at this point. The first, and most obvious, is the argument that pursuant to Rule 26(f), a request for admission may only be served after the conference for the purpose of planning discovery detailed under that rule, and therefore the 30-day time limit on Bergs request has not yet begun. Here, though, Berg could feasibly argue either that the request for admissions is not a true discovery mechanism and is actually meant to streamline the future need for discovery, or that the defendants acknowledged service of the request in their October 6 motion for protective order and failed, at that time, to specifically object or answer. The second option for the defense, still easily foreseen, is that Obama and the DNC could file a motion to withdraw admissions which have been deemed admitted.
In order to file a motion to withdraw admissions deemed admitted by default, a party must show
(1) good cause regarding why there was no response and
(2) that such a motion to withdraw would not cause undue prejudice to the plaintiff. Here, Berg could contend that Obama and the DNC failed to meet those standards, that they cannot show good cause for failing to answer or object, and that withdrawing the admissions would cause undue prejudice.
Still, for Berg, the issue is clear. He simply wanted answers or objections, he said, and instead received nothing. Rule 36, according to Berg, is fairly cut-and-dry.
It all comes down to the fact that theres nothing from the other side, Berg said. The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. He admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.
Obama legally ineligible ping
Requests For Admissions can be pretty deadly, and the failure to respond on time really bad. Where I practice anyway.
Obama is above the law. “The one” is the law.
Nothing here, move on.
Has the Judge ruled on anything? Maybe he’s taking a vacation and hasn’t been to the office yet?
ok waiting for BREAKING NEWS ON FOX OR CNN ANYWHERE?
Seriously, does anybody expect that Hussein is going to suddenly say that he’s legally ineligible to be president? Does anybody expect that a court is going to make such a finding? Lastly, is it remotely conceivable that if this were the case, HRC and crew wouldn’t have found it and gotten it out during the primaries?
There has to be a better way to keep him from getting elected.
Liberals and dems believe the Constitution is wrong and not to be regarded by them or, any of the laws they don’t like.
Nothing will happen over this.
The media hacks are worthless.
For the sake of the country, they’ll have to let it slide this time. Because it would be racism and it would cause rioting throughout the land. So, this one time, its ok. Thats all folks.
This just seems too good to be true. Can Obama somehow claim that his ill Grandma is a reason to not respond. When I say claim, I mean use his legal team to claim the ill grandma is holding up his response.
When will McCain start talking about this or Fox News or Hannity.
This is this morning legal admission. I think FR and http://www.americasright.com/ are the only sources right now.
So this is really, really breaking.
Do the rules apply to democrats where you practice? Because I’ve heard that the rules don’t apply to democrats pretty much across the board.
OKAY, Lawyers. What’s up with this??? Please explain to us plumbers and hod carriers.
Oh! THAT is scary!!
I thought they filed a motion for dismissal? Does that not count as a response?
Aint over til we all vote - that’s the bottom line, right?
just what the hell is up with dnc ignoring this entire issue when they could have made it go away?
something is up - not sure we have any idea what - but there is something up.
I don’t think a sick relative would be Good Case to reverse this admission though since the DNC also has not responded.
Therefore, this morning, amidst news reports that Barack Obama will be suspending his campaign for a few days so he can fly to Hawaii to visit his grandmother...
Ping to read later
My tagline complements your tagline.
I sent it to the McCain HQ and MSM a few moments ago. I encourage all to do the same.
It’s a pending action under Rule 36(a):
Rule 36. Requests for Admission
(a) Scope and Procedure.
A party may serve on any other party a written request to admit, for purposes of the pending action only, the truth of any matters within the scope of Rule 26(b)(1) relating to:
(A) facts, the application of law to fact, or opinions about either; and
(B) the genuineness of any described documents.
It’s very very clear.
Any American natural born citizen can easily, for less than $10 obtain a certified copy of an original birth certificate.
The fact that Obama would spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight this case is more than enough to cast reasonable doubt as to his ability to obtain one.
Or, the judgement of the man is so terrible that rather than shell out $10, he would spend nearly a million times that.
My guess is on the first scenerio.
Come on Barack. Hell, I’ll pay the $10 for you in order to see it....
No problem. The MSM will cover for him.
BO would simply refuse to step aside and his cult would fight any challenge to his candidacy, no matter what the Constitution says. As in the case of Clintoon, nothing gets in the way of their lust for power.
John McCain took an oath that he would support the Constitution and defend the USA from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Now is the time to stand up and be faithful to that oath.
Not according to the thread NoobRep posted yesterday.
So, why is it taking so long? What is the judge waiting for? (Berg vs Obama)
Sock puppet about to be uncovered!
At this point, Berg's next move would be to petition that Obama be stricken from the ballot. See how the court responds to that.
Sadly, I agree with you as to how this play out if true.
Mod took this post out of breaking news.
He might need to ensure his grandmother is unable to testify.
Maybe Barack is heading to Hawaii to pick up that birth certificate that they paid a huge sum of money for someone in Hawaii’s Department of Records to come up with? Maybe Barack’s grandmother is so ill - she won’t live past this visit? These people would do anything for victory & I’m a bit nervous about what is about to happen. We think it’s going to come out for us - but I don’t trust these people. They are evil.
There is a post on Berg’s blog that says Obama is going back to Hawaii on Thursday to visit her again.