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I Need Your Help to Validate a Story (Vanity)
10/28/08 | Self

Posted on 10/28/2008 2:58:08 PM PDT by CitizenM

If anyone can, please help me.

I have some friends in Pittsburgh who are both liberal and conservative. We had been chatting about the woman there who said she was attacked and a "B" etched into her face. One particularly liberal friend is now saying that the McCain people PRESSURED the news media there to run the story about the woman.

She has said this after I sent her the original article, and then sent the report that it was a hoax. I even commented how these "hoaxes" hurt us all, of both parties. But this woman INSISTS that now, in Pittsburgh, PA "all the media is scrambling because they gave into the McCain pressure."

How she knows this, I don't know, she gave no proof. She just said it is happening. I have been looking for articles in papers that state that any of the Pittsburgh media has claimed they were PRESSURED. I can find where it was reported that the McCain people (including Sarah Palin) called the woman just after the original report, but find none afterward saying the media felt any pressure to report this by anyone from the McCain staffers.

I did hear that the woman was not a McCain supporter, but actually a former campaign worker for Ron Paul. Is that true or not?

My friend is very liberal and, of course, is more concerned that the media was PRESSURED by McCain people, and that has turned her totally against even considering voting for him, which, actually, she had been doing. (Of course she won't listen to the stories, or believe the articles I have sent her about how Obama has pressured the media and tired to silence them, how he threatend networks if they ran ads he did not like, and how they have canceled interviews on stations where they were asked what Obama supporters felt were "hard" questions,etc. She calls those "smears", LOL. I am trying to address that.)

Naturally, this has caused me concern and I want to be able to counter the claim for others who still are on the fence about voting for either McCain or Obama. If it is true that McCain's people used Pressure about reporting this, it won't be well accepted and votes for McCain might be lost.

So - I need proof, and I think it would help many people if we knew if or not any press members are actually saying they were pressured in any way. Maybe that is they way they are playing CYA, but we need to know. Personally, I would also be upset if this is true.

If any of you find any stories confirming this, or know of any, or even heard of this, Please let me know, and print what you have found out so others can dubunk this if it is not true that any media was pressured to release this story.

Thank you, CitizenM


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1 posted on 10/28/2008 2:58:09 PM PDT by CitizenM
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To: CitizenM

Facts are irrelevant. You won’t change her mind.


2 posted on 10/28/2008 2:59:33 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
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To: CitizenM

Leave her alone, she’s a lost cause. If she gnaws off her fingernails over that story, something will cause her to relapse in the next 5 days.

You’re better off calling voters and GOTV operations. In the time it takes to persuade a shaky single nut case, you could have 10 sure votes for McCain.


3 posted on 10/28/2008 3:00:15 PM PDT by rom (Keep Senator Government from Spreading YOUR Wealth! McCain/Palin '08!)
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To: CitizenM

A Ron Paul worker? No idea, but for what its worth there were three mentions of Ron Paul on her MySpace page. No mentions of McCain. She was a McCain volunteer at the time of the hoax.


4 posted on 10/28/2008 3:02:44 PM PDT by icwhatudo (PALIN VID=========>>>>>http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n1ronxelmtin<++++++++)
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Michael Malkin, noted conservative, and others called “BS” on the story immediately.

McCain was notably quiet, so much so that FR was pissed at McCain.


5 posted on 10/28/2008 3:02:46 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: icwhatudo

Yes, the lying witch was a Ron Paul supporter.


6 posted on 10/28/2008 3:03:41 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: CitizenM
Google the girl's name. There are stories about the Paul camp asking her to leave. Tell the woman to produce stories that McCain pressured any pressies. Then point out that the girl only hurt herself and is under arrest. Then ask her to explain this.

Campaign workers attacked

You can also search FR for the story of the McCain supporter that was attacked by an Obama supporter in NYC.

7 posted on 10/28/2008 3:07:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

The B cut into her face stood for BOZO or BIMBO!


8 posted on 10/28/2008 3:08:28 PM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: MeanWestTexan

She supposedly was kicked out of Paul’s camp due to something similar, a claim of somebody going after her for supporting Paul. I think some reports stated that McCain’s campaign had brought the event to the media’s attention, long before it was known to be a hoax. Probably because the media doesn’t cover anything like this as they would for the other side. It should have been vetted, first, in my opinion.


9 posted on 10/28/2008 3:09:00 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: CitizenM

Does anyone really believe that McCain could pressure the media? If your friend is not willing to listen to the fact that the Obama campaign is in bed with the media and has tried to silence those who don’t comply, she probably wouldn’t be open to the truth if it jumped up and bit her. As for the girl’s campaign affiliation, I think she was a member of the Paul campaign and was kicked out for some bizarre behavior, at which time she joined the McCain camp. News reports have stated that she has a history of mental issues.


10 posted on 10/28/2008 3:09:26 PM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: CitizenM
Why would you stay friends with person that wants a idiot for president that has promised to “hurt” you, financially and in many other ways? Get new friends and dump the idiots in your life. They are not really your friend.
11 posted on 10/28/2008 3:10:06 PM PDT by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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Why would you stay friends with person that wants a idiot for president that has promised to “hurt” you, financially and in many other ways? Get new friends and dump the idiots in your life. They are not really your friend.
12 posted on 10/28/2008 3:10:09 PM PDT by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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My friend is very liberal

I have a few employees like this. They can't be helped or swayed, they fall under the definition of "Beyond Help". Don't waste anymore of your breath on politics with her, enjoy her for what she is, a friend. You'll be a lot happier and you'll have more energy left too!

13 posted on 10/28/2008 3:10:46 PM PDT by Pagey (Sarah Palin has Mayoral AND Governors' Experience---B. Hussein Obama has NEITHER!!!!!)
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You say your friend wants proof that McCain didn’t pressure the media ... you can’t prove a negative. Your friend is making the accusation, so the burden is on her to give the proof.


14 posted on 10/28/2008 3:13:50 PM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: CitizenM
Early on in this story, Michelle Malkin thought it smelled fishy. She noticed the "B" was as if someone had done that looking into a mirror...

Michelle Malkin early on went with her story -- just hours after this broke.

The McCain campaign would have only done this if they were incredibly stupid and the Media would listen to them.

The Media has consistently attacked the McCain campaign -- with the exception of Fox News...

15 posted on 10/28/2008 3:14:38 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Thanks, but I know that, and the issue here is not the story was a hoax...but that McCain people supposedly PRESSURED the media/press in Pittsburgh to release the story.

Now, I am sure the story was going to be reported anyway, which it was. But it is the issue of "Pressure" that I want to debunk.

I know this would have an impact with people in Pittsburgh, PA either way. Pittsburgh (my hometown)is pivitol in this race, and I know many there who are on the fence. All Pittsburgers, I am sure, would react one way or another and it could harm either candidate if the Pressure issue is or is not true.

I would like to have certainty to give friends that there was NO pressure from McCain people, and hope that is the case.

16 posted on 10/28/2008 3:15:47 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: CitizenM

It is inaccurate to say that the McCain campaign “pressured” the media.

It has been noted that the McCain campaign hyped the story before the fact on the ground were clear. They promoted “incendiary” details of the story which, of course, later turned out to be completely false.

As others have pointed out, significant bastions of the conservative “blogosphere” expressed distrust of this story up front. It was foolish of the McCain campaign to dive in the way it did. You might say that they “pushed” the story, but “pressured the media”? That’s overstating the case.


17 posted on 10/28/2008 3:15:55 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: CitizenM

You can’t win. Enjoy your friendship for whatever it is and don’t broach politics with her, or allow her to broach politics with you.


18 posted on 10/28/2008 3:16:41 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: CitizenM
Personally I think the woman is a Barry the Marxist supporter.
She just claimed to be a McCain supporter and staged the attack to discredit McCain supporters.
Clever huh?
19 posted on 10/28/2008 3:16:48 PM PDT by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: CitizenM
and that has turned her totally against even considering voting for him, which, actually, she had been doing

She's been lying to you.

If she actually cared about the issues and the candidates, and their respective positions on all the issues, then, she wouldn't even be considering that "B" story as a deal breaker for her.

Your "friend" has been leading you on and she was just looking for an excuse to get you off her back. Obama was her candidate all along and from the sound of it, she never really had considered McCain for her vote.
20 posted on 10/28/2008 3:17:03 PM PDT by adorno
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