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Obama's Civil Defense Force (vanity)
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Posted on 11/11/2008 2:10:23 AM PST by MrPiper

Obama's civilian defense force, that is ‘as well funded as the military

Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession?

I did a search and found nothing. This is an offshoot of another thread, "Rep calls Obama a Marxists".


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To: MrPiper

A civilian force;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

His prototype?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY


21 posted on 11/11/2008 4:07:01 AM PST by BILL_C (Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Regan, Obama's contribution will be equally good. Is it Sarah?)
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To: MrPiper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
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22 posted on 11/11/2008 4:08:19 AM PST by Peelod (God bless America - pray for the Restoration)
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To: MrPiper

If he does this, there will be armed revolution and blood will run in the city streets.


23 posted on 11/11/2008 4:34:35 AM PST by Jackknife ( "The Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, and Firearms should be a department store, not a gov't agency.")
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To: MrPiper

Has the Constitution ever been anything more than a minor annoyance to these people? I’ve long worried that it will have to be bloodied to be saved. Even more now.


24 posted on 11/11/2008 4:40:20 AM PST by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: MrPiper
First of all call it what he did. “National Security Force”. You think legal or illegal will stop him? He will make it part of the draft and that is how it will become “legal”. It will not be a national guard etc. It will be a response to a Wag the Dog type scenario before the 2010 elections and will start out as “community service”.
25 posted on 11/11/2008 4:51:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: MrPiper

Re: A Civil Defense Force

We have this now. It’s called CCW.


26 posted on 11/11/2008 5:36:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Little known fact: Barack Obama translated into Kenyan means "Jimmy Carter")
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To: MrPiper
Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession?

Anything is legal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed judges say it is legal. Conversely, anything is illegal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed Judges say it is illegal - even the Constitution itself. We have found the real flaw in the Constitution - the assumption that Judges have character and will act with honesty rather than raw political allegiance.

27 posted on 11/11/2008 5:44:36 AM PST by ghostrider
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To: Peelod

I recall Bush mentioning posse comitatus as the reason why the military wasn’t used immediately after Katrina.


28 posted on 11/11/2008 6:49:07 AM PST by oldleft
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To: MrPiper

Let’s pray his brownshirts wear blue helmets to make them easy targets.


29 posted on 11/11/2008 7:34:24 AM PST by zeugma (Who is John Galt?)
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To: sonic109

I’ve got my own agenda. Good luck with yours.


30 posted on 11/11/2008 7:53:42 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith
I just heard people talking about this very topic on the radio about an hour ago and it frankly, scared the crap out of me. I got on the computer to search for information and figure out if people are overreacting to something he said - but of course not! I should have known better. Anyway - in searching, I stumbled upon this site and found all these posts by all of you great Americans and I just have to say THANK YOU!!! At least I know when it gets down to me being barricaded in my home with my guns and kids I won't be alone. This is tyranny pure and simple.

Hitler had three lynch pins in place in order to do what he did. Media devotion, gun control, and a civil defense to enforce the other two. Like I said - at least I feel better knowing we're not going down without a fight!! I'm going to go watch Red Dawn now, hahahahaha.

31 posted on 11/11/2008 8:44:20 AM PST by Oggie
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To: Oggie
Wolverines!
32 posted on 11/11/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith

Seriously! I’m so sick of being surrounded by stupid, apathetic people who don’t know/care enough about history to see the writing on the wall. Myopic, self-centered, living-in-the-moment people everywhere I turn! Grrrrrrr!

I can’t believe THEY elected this fool . . . and it has nothing to do with his race - as my mother says trash is trash, it doesn’t matter what color the bag is.

At least I found a place to vent my frustration!


33 posted on 11/11/2008 9:14:37 AM PST by Oggie
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To: Oggie

Well, don’t vent at me. I have my own frustrations.


34 posted on 11/11/2008 12:38:56 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: garykfd

don’t forget the “unorganized militia”


35 posted on 11/11/2008 12:40:01 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: Oggie

God gave America a clear choice between good and evil.
Americans in the majority voted for evil.
Judgement time. Choices have consequences.


36 posted on 11/11/2008 12:41:50 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: volslover
This CDF (Defense, Ha!) will be nothing more than a bunch of Obama loyalists who will be counted to ignore the US Constitution and only listen to their 'Dear Leader'. When they are as well funded as DoD, and with the DoD having to operate under conflicted orders, chaos will prosper - dissention will be crushed.

There are a lot of apologists and rationalizers who think this can't happen in the U. S. of A, but they are mistaken. There is absolutely no other reason to form a force like this for other than totalitarian reasons - simply none!

Above all, this statement of intent by Obama is the worst, by far.

37 posted on 11/11/2008 2:19:39 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: volslover

Ironically, the ultimate victims of the last formation of a CDF (Germany), voted en masse for Obama. What is it about the Jewish community that contributes to its own demise?


38 posted on 11/11/2008 2:22:01 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: A Navy Vet

Talk of a standing army in the US comporting with the Constitution for possible defense from forces without the confines is not the problem. The purpose of Obama’s CDF is not for combating threats from without - it is for oppressing dissent from within.


39 posted on 11/11/2008 2:23:58 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: sonic109
DO SOMETHING about it .

Well, gun and ammo sales are up.

40 posted on 11/11/2008 2:31:34 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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