SC priest: No communion for Obama supporters

Ass Press via Breitbart ^ | Nov 13, 2008 | MEG KINNARD

[Dajjal]

Kudos to Fr. Newman

[Natural Law]

"While I like his stand against abortion I find his reasoning idiotic. Sorry. This one goes in my stupid file."

Then you know nothing of Catholic dogma or the role of priests. Your opinion, dare I say it, is idiotic.

[Natural Law]

"...what self-respecting Catholic will continue to tremble in fear when the earth doesn't open up and swallow him after he's "excommunicated?"

Well, you see the really, really neat thing about being a Catholic is that it is a completely voluntary organization of like minded people. Those who reject Catholic dogma have excluded or "excommunicated" themselves. They are therefore no longer a "self-respecting Catholic".

[mbraynard]

I hope you also took your priest aside and told him to stand tall.

[mbraynard]

So I posted this story on my facebook status and guess what one whackjob posted in reply:

omg this is the craziest thing I have ever heard... another reason why I live in Boston.

and let me add to that .... another reason why I am a Scientologist. We believe whatever is true for you is true. I can't believe you let these nazi's around your children - (disclaimer you being the proverbial you of course)

She was unfriended.

[PalmettoMason]

And if it isn't, well, then the Episcopal church down the block can have some new faces on Sunday. With the way the ECUSA is losing members, they'll probably be grateful.

Hopefully, certain elements within the Episcopal Church are taking steps to "right" the church. More and more are splitting off to a more conservative movement. Perhaps there is hope.

Honestly, I have considered converting to RC for the last several years, but since I am a Freemason, I cannot. I have actually visited St. Mary's, and was VERY impressed with Fr. Newman. I hope and trust that he will stand firm.

[visualops]

Honestly, I have considered converting to RC for the last several years, but since I am a Freemason, I cannot.

Can you explain that to me?

[visualops]

First off, I wouldn't trust a CNN poll. Especially about Catholicism. Have some faith. The Faith is growing, churches here are growing. FWIW our parish pastor passed away recently. We have other parish priests, I'm taking about the head honcho. His replacement is significantly more conservative/traditional. Change is coming all right, but it's not the kind Obama wants.

[PalmettoMason]

Sure. It is my understanding from my reading on the internet, and my conversations with RC family and friends that the Church forbids membership in Freemasonry. In fact, I was told that the Knights of Columbus was formed as an alternative to Freemasonry for Catholics (I don't know if this is true, I have never read up on KofC).

I love the RC Mass, and attend now and then, without partaking of the Sacrament, of course.

I am sure it will be suggested by some that I simply renounce my membership in the Lodge, and join the Church. It's not that simple. I honestly cannot understand the Church's position on the issue, and even if I did renounce it, I would always be a Freemason in my heart, which would mean that I would be living a lie.

Anyway, that's about it. I appreciate your asking, and would be interested in your thoughts.

[Livin_large]

Boy, South Carolina and her “leaders” have been all over the news lately. Keep the pressure on!

[jmaroneps37]

God bless you Father, you are showing the way.

[aimee5291]

well said ...

I like this priest

[Northern Yankee]

It does depend... but when you know the truth, nothing else matters.

[Northern Yankee]

I haven’t seen him since the election. (He’s in New Mexico at the moment.) I will thank him the next time I see him.

[littlehouse36]

Hi -- maybe this will help with Catholic teaching on Freemasons:

 

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/CAMASON1.htm

 

I hope you will continue to visit St. Mary's.  It is a special place, and if nothing else you will get a five-star homily from Fr. Newman. 

 

There was a time in my life when I realized that non-Catholics, such as yourself, showed more respect for Church teaching than I did.  That is when I took a good look at my soul and faith and decided to embrace Catholicism wholly. 

 

 

[Desdemona]

It is my understanding from my reading on the internet, and my conversations with RC family and friends that the Church forbids membership in Freemasonry. In fact, I was told that the Knights of Columbus was formed as an alternative to Freemasonry for Catholics (I don't know if this is true, I have never read up on KofC).

The formation of the KC had more to do with a consortium to be able to get life insurance. Catholics couldn't get life insurance for a time.

To understand why the church forbids freemasonry, the best source is a papal encyclical by Pope Leo XIII (IMO, one of the best and brightest of the last 200 years) called "Humanun Genus" published in 1884. There are other encyclicals by other popes that explain why, but Leo XIII always lays things out well. My HTML cheat sheet is at work, but you can find the encyclical at http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18840420_humanum-genus_en.html

My prayers for you in your spiritual search.

[adc]

Better late than never, but I wish it had been said before the election. In any event, courage breeds courage. Thank God for this priest. One of my own priests on Respect Life Sunday gave an impassioned homily on the election, and went even further to announce that the tax exemption was less important than the issue of Infanticide. That’s courage.

[visualops]

Don’t rely on the well-meaning but possibly incorrect opinions of friends and family. Talk to the priest at the church where you attend services. After Mass, (presumably he greets people as they exit the narthax) tell him you have some questions and would like to discuss with him some personal issues regarding a path to joining the Church. Depending on how busy he is, he may refer you to the Deacon first.

[deadhead]

How about that......

Thought of you as soon as I read the article

[Campion]

So are you the Bishop to say he won’t be replaced? I doubt it.

He doesn't have a bishop right now (the see of Charleston is vacant), and the administrator is not going to replace him for defending Catholic doctrine.