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Quit It Kathleen (Parker Excoriates "GOD" Conservatives, Goldberg Blasts Back)
National Review's The Corner ^ | 11-19-08 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/19/2008 7:55:57 AM PST by TitansAFC

Edited on 11/19/2008 8:02:40 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

To my friend Kathleen Parker — This act is getting really old.

As Republicans sort out the reasons for their defeat, they likely will overlook or dismiss the gorilla in the pulpit.

Three little letters, great big problem: G-O-D.

I'm bathing in holy water as I type.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; palin; parker; vichyrepublican
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To: TitansAFC

i’d rather be a GOD conservative, low-brow and a real person than a liberal RINO Elitist Republican anyday. (and I am sure most in the party would).


21 posted on 11/19/2008 8:07:48 AM PST by JSDude1 (PAUL BROUN for House Republican Minority Leader..Mike Pence for conference chair!)
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To: MrB

Correct.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 8:09:52 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: TitansAFC
Don't tell Kathleen Parker about some religious nuts back about 232 years ago who fought the British...

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--"

23 posted on 11/19/2008 8:10:12 AM PST by avacado
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To: MeanWestTexan

You are correct...more and more people view ANY Republican as part of the Christian Coalition. There are many that are concerned about entrusting the Country to the far right intolerant religious fringe. They’ve painted the whole Party with that brush and made it hard for voteres to get by that image.


24 posted on 11/19/2008 8:12:39 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: avacado

The Judeo-Christian (Old/New Testament) morality on which our culture is based is the only one for which our (intended) system of governance will work.


25 posted on 11/19/2008 8:12:48 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Huckabee made the mistake of seeing that being more Liberal seemed to be working for McCain and copied it. Romney figured there were enough Liberals, so he would act Conservative. Giuliani, who knows what he was thinking? There were good reasons why Huckabee was a real favorite on FR until this election. As with the rest of the GOP team this year, he “played to the perceived crowd” rather than being genuine. The only two genuine candidates on the GOP side got 1% and ignored, or painted as lazy and inconsequential.


26 posted on 11/19/2008 8:13:11 AM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: TitansAFC
Look, our forefathers were very wise in separating their religion from Politics. We need to do the same and stop dancing to the Dem tune that " Republicans Have Religion" while Democrats do not.

The fact is that Demcrats mostly treat politics AS their religion while Republicans in general trend do not.

This makes Democrats susceptible to charasmatic totalitarian government, as Jonah Goldberg has written in his book:

Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of AMerica's Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.

Republicans need to stop equating their party with the Religious Right, which is a horrid Dem trap, and our relgious brothers and sisters in the Republican party need to [place their evangelism inside of their communities and refrain from insisting that the party be a religious platform, rather than a values platform.

The Republican Party hosts a vast spectrum of religions, but only a small cadre within it are vocal political evangelists. I respect their beliefs but not their manifestation particularly, for it tars the whole Republican party as a bunch of cross eyed wing nuts , when nothing could be further from the truth.

So I agree with Jonah, and the cost hr delineates is having the party marginalized at a time when it needs strength to compete against an emerging totalitarian America.

God , you will find, is on both sides of politics, whether we might like that or not. He just manifests differently on those two sides.

We need to fight for our common conservative values based on our wide religious base, we do not need to fight for any one religion. Fighting for any one religion means the death of the Republican Party.

27 posted on 11/19/2008 8:13:14 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: ckilmer

“curious that people talk this way when stats show that the problem with the republicans was not that obama brought out significantly more democrats but rather that McCain inspired significantly fewer republicans to vote.”

Exactly, I know quite a few people who vote Republican and only Republican who would not vote for McCain regardless of the fact that they loved Sarah.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 8:14:24 AM PST by redk
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To: redk

Agreed!


29 posted on 11/19/2008 8:14:39 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: TitansAFC
I'm really starting despise Parker and her mealy-mouthed Rat pronouncements. Naturally, she's got it all wrong...she's part of the problem while Governor Palin is part of the solution, rather than the other way around.

Stupid hussy.

30 posted on 11/19/2008 8:14:55 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Maybe if we just ignore her she’ll go away.

That is the tactic I am trying.

31 posted on 11/19/2008 8:15:17 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Candor7

“God , you will find, is on both sides of politics, whether we might like that or not.”

I respectfully disagree. Liberalism is Godless.

I do, however, believe we need to be quiet about religion, and, where possible come at things from a moral, but secular, basis.


32 posted on 11/19/2008 8:16:55 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: ckilmer

If he had not put Palin (or a similarly authentic, conservative 9from what I could tell) figure) on the ticket, I would have voted third party.

McCain ran an awful campaign. As someone else here said, I’m sorry Obama won, but I’m glad McCain lost.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 8:16:56 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Hemorrhage
I’d rather have a conservatism without Kathleen Parker than one without God

Amen! If the people want to side with the democrats because we love God let them. There are certain fouindational pillars that I won't ever give up. I will not abandon my religion to win converts to my party.

34 posted on 11/19/2008 8:17:20 AM PST by pgkdan ( All Catholics should know supporting Obama constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil.)
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To: TitansAFC

I can agree with Kathleen Parker about only one thing: I wish to gracious our wonderful Sarah would stop saying, “I’m like” when she means “I said.” Please, Sarah.


35 posted on 11/19/2008 8:19:09 AM PST by ottbmare
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To: TitansAFC

Freepmail.


36 posted on 11/19/2008 8:21:10 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher; Obama is America's George Galloway.)
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To: TitansAFC
“Simply put: Armband religion is killing the Republican Party. And, the truth — as long as we're setting ourselves free — is that if one were to eavesdrop on private conversations among the party intelligentsia, one would hear precisely that. “

My goodness. The US postal service must have lost my invitation to the NRO cruise and those enlightening upcoming seasonal Heritage Foundation and RNC cocktail parties (though they have my email address to solicit donations)

So however can little low (uni) brow me be expected to hear the “truth” being whispered by intelligentsia of “my” party?

I will have to stay home rocking the cradle, stirring the fire, and ironing my familys' armbands for Sunday revival services, and generally by my very existence, causing the discrete small-r “republicans” to lament the Walmart plastic picket fences and tacky holiday manger scenes now marring their shining city on a hill.

37 posted on 11/19/2008 8:21:43 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: pgkdan

>> There are certain fouindational pillars that I won’t ever give up. I will not abandon my religion to win converts to my party.

As Reagan noted in his 1975 CPAC speech ...

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers. [...] And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”

I agree with Ms. Parker on occasion, and greatly enjoyed “Save the Males” ... but perhaps it is time to let her go her own way.

H


38 posted on 11/19/2008 8:21:49 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: TitansAFC
I hate it when I'm right. I called this before the election: there are a few elitists out there who are stupid and hateful enough to think, that in just 3 short months Sarah Palin singlehandedly was responsible for the demise of the Republican party.

As it turns out McCain did as well as he did because of Palin and the "lowbrow" base. And I think Kathleen Parker knows this and is scared out of her $100 panties.

Now Kathleen Parker will get one or two really hateful emails and whine and pout and tell us she got "hundreds, if not thousands like this."

What is more lowbrow than a grown woman having a temper tantrum? I'm sick of this brat.

39 posted on 11/19/2008 8:22:14 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: Mamzelle

Hear! Hear!

The Vichy deserve our indifference, even ambivalence, certainly not a platform to snipe at Conservatives.


40 posted on 11/19/2008 8:22:23 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile...Rom 10.10..)
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