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Mexico Drug Cartels Border Wars Rages Out of Control, but U.S. wants more border crossings.
CNN Lou Dobbs Tonight ^ | December 9, 2008 | Lou Dobbs-Transcript Staff

Posted on 12/10/2008 7:20:33 PM PST by flattorney

More than 5,000 people have been killed in Mexico's out of control drug cartel wars this year, so why is our government opening even more border crossings at this time with Mexico. Many elected officials are ignoring Mexico's raging war against the drug cartels and instead of focusing on safety and public security, trying to widen the openings in our border with Mexico strictly for commerce purposes.

DOBBS: Disturbing new details emerging tonight from Mexico proving that the raging drug cartel wars there are far more deadly than the government of Mexico has previously admitted. The U.S. response, however, is even more alarming. Even with the violence spreading into this country, U.S. government officials are making new moves to further open our border with Mexico, focusing on commerce and not security. Casey Wian has our report.

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CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora announced this week that nearly 5,400 people have been killed in drug cartel violence so far this year, double the number during the same period in 2007. More than a thousand have been killed in the past six weeks alone which works out to one drug cartel murder in Mexico every hour. But you wouldn't know that from another announcement this week on the border between San Diego and Tijuana, one of the bloodiest places in Mexico's drug war. California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger joined his Mexican counterpart to taut the approval and funding for a new border crossing to help promote trade.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aholearnold; amnesty; billrichardson; border; bordercrossing; bordercrossings; borderpatrol; california; commerce; corruption; crime; drugcartel; drugcartels; drugtrafficking; drugwars; government; illegaldrugs; illegals; immigration; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; nafta; nau; obama; richardson; sandiego; schwarzenegger; statedepartment; tijuana; travelalert; wod; wot
GOV. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER (R), CALIFORNIA: There has been no new border entry built, no crossing built in California for the last 10 years and that of course resulted in huge waiting time. I always said that the faster we move goods and people around that is true economic power.

WIAN: Not a word was mentioned about drug cartel violence. Instead the governor said California is losing $8 billion a year and 74,000 jobs because of delays that exist in border crossings. Also on the trade bandwagon, New Mexico Governor and Commerce Secretary- nominee Bill Richardson, he visited Mexico over the weekend and met with business leaders and former government officials at a university, yet refused to elaborate on the purpose of his trip beyond this in Spanish.

GOV. BILL RICHARDSON, COMMERCE SECY. NOMINEE (through translator): As you know my mother is Mexican. She is 95 years old. I've come to visit her in Cuernavaca (ph). It's a very quick visit, lightning quick and that's all I want to say.

WIAN: Left unaddressed, President-elect Obama's campaign promise to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement.

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WIAN: All of this talk about expanded trade and commerce seems to fly in the face of the travel alert now in effect from the U.S. State Department. It warns U.S. citizens of the risks of traveling to Mexico including armed conflict, kidnappings, and other crimes regularly occurring in broad daylight -- Lou.

DOBBS: An extraordinary state of denial on the part of the governor of the state of California. No indication of a response either by, well by the state of California, New Mexico, or from of course with Governor Richardson now slated to be commerce secretary or the state of Arizona where Janet Napolitano, the governor, is slated to become the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

WIAN: Yeah, it's interesting, Lou, these governors all were the ones who called for the National Guard to be extended along the border because of the increasing border violence. You probably remember a couple of years ago Governor Schwarzenegger got in some hot water when he said close the border and what I really meant was secure the border. Now they're not even talking about that. They just want trade it seems at all costs. More trade, Lou.

DOBBS: And extraordinarily none of them talking about the fact that Mexico remains the principle source of marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and amphetamines in the United States and still a discussion of commerce rather than border security -- remarkable -- Casey, thank you -- Casey Wian.

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12.09.08 FR: Killings in Mexico's drug war double since '07

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1 posted on 12/10/2008 7:20:33 PM PST by flattorney
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To: SwinneySwitch

PING ~ MAR


2 posted on 12/10/2008 7:21:25 PM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: flattorney

I was hoping the new border crossings were for only southbound lanes.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 7:28:28 PM PST by nufsed
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To: flattorney; ExTexasRedhead; SwinneySwitch; goldstategop; AuntB; cripplecreek; fieldmarshaldj; ...

The political class is completely opposed to the public interest on this.


4 posted on 12/10/2008 7:33:36 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Our enemies foreign and domestic are very busy.

Sleep well America.


5 posted on 12/10/2008 7:42:36 PM PST by LFOD (IRAQ - Back in Dixie)
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To: flattorney
We need to seal shut our borders. We don't need Mexico's problems imported here!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 12/10/2008 7:44:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: flattorney
More than 5,000 people have been killed in Mexico's out of control drug cartel wars this year, so why is our government opening even more border crossings at this time with Mexico.

Because Bush feels beholden to the Mexicans and NOT to Americans.

7 posted on 12/10/2008 7:57:49 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: flattorney
Maybe, Governor Arnold, we can set the goal of having an open border for the flow of people and services as the Indians have on their west with Pakistant, particularly the seacost around Mumbai. It's a thought.

And what the hell, 2,000 or maybe even 3,000 dead will be a small price to pay for free trade and commerce for Kallyforunia.

8 posted on 12/10/2008 8:17:40 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: flattorney

More crossings would be better because it would spread out the people coming in over more stations.

The wait over the border is 3 hours or more some weekends. The patrol feels a lot of pressure to keep the cars moving while trying to do the best they can with inspecting passengers as they ride by.

Create more crossings so the back up is less and the patrol can take longer to look at each car coming in etc.

Arnold is a joke but he is actually right on this.


9 posted on 12/10/2008 8:26:09 PM PST by Diggity
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To: flattorney
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem. The US Border Patrol has complained to the Bush administration about Mexican military incursions to no avail.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico's drug wars are now north of the borders--but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC Alas, the Washington DC pictures have recently been taken down.

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

That said, the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts. DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem

Oh there's one other cost of illegals that has gone generally unnoticed. Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.!

MALKIN: Illegal immigrant factor

Once again its helpful to provide some maps and stats: Look at the map where those who owe more than the house is worth. Notice any similarities to the unemployment picture and concentrations of illegals

Sadly Illegal Immigrants To Get Next Bailout


10 posted on 12/10/2008 8:30:05 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And what the hell, 2,000 or maybe even 3,000 dead will be a small price to pay for free trade and commerce for Kallyforunia.

Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

November 28, 2006 -- Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

11 posted on 12/10/2008 8:43:30 PM PST by MamaDearest
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San Diego - Tijuana Border crossing, largest and busiest in the world
12 posted on 12/10/2008 9:07:39 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: flattorney; CPT Clay; MNDude; BellStar; bayouranger; stan_sipple; time4good; Guenevere; mugsaway; ..

From the LA Times:

“An official in El Paso estimated that up to 100,000 dual U.S.-Mexican citizens, mostly upper middle class, have fled north from Juarez to his city this year. Only those lacking means to escape remain.”

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


13 posted on 12/11/2008 7:47:29 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObamaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Even with the violence spreading into this country, U.S. government officials are making new moves to further open our border with Mexico, focusing on commerce and not security”

Between Napalitano and Richardson, they’ll have the welcome wagon down there hauling aliens in!


14 posted on 12/11/2008 8:03:34 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: SwinneySwitch

>mostly upper middle class,<

This refers to the thousands of Mexicans living in Mexico while collecting welfare checks from the US.


15 posted on 12/11/2008 8:06:04 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: goldstategop

To an alarming degree, they already have been.


16 posted on 12/11/2008 8:15:46 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: flattorney; All

“GOV. BILL RICHARDSON, COMMERCE SECY. NOMINEE (through translator): As you know my mother is Mexican. “

interesting...and so that makes Richardson what? an illegal alien? an anchor baby? anybody know?


17 posted on 12/11/2008 5:24:44 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Kimberly GG
checked it out on wiki...not the most reliable, but ya gotta love this....

"Bill Richardson was born in Pasadena, California to María Luisa López-Collada Márquez (born in Villaviciosa, Spain in 1914[2]) and William Blaine Richardson Jr. (1891–1972), a Nicaragua-born Citibank executive[3] who lived and worked in Mexico City for decades. Richardson's mother was a socialite in Mexico,[4] and she largely took care of him during his youth. He has a younger sister, Vesta. Just before Richardson was born, his mother was sent to California, where her husband's sister lived, to give birth because, as Richardson explained, "My father had a complex about not having been born in the United States."[5] Three of his four grandparents were Mexican citizens, and he identifies himself as Hispanic.[5] Richardson, a U.S. citizen by birthright, was raised during his childhood in Mexico City.


RICHARDSON = ANCHOR BABY
18 posted on 12/11/2008 5:31:10 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: AuntB

My post 18 above....did you know this? was news to me!


19 posted on 12/11/2008 7:24:37 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Yep, Richardson is an anchor baby. He’s not the only one in high places in government. And Chertoff...he just hires illegal aliens to clean his house. Too bad he didn’t hire one as a cook and put some meat on that scrawny frame of his.


20 posted on 12/12/2008 8:22:12 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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