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Justices Won't Review Obama's Eligibility to Serve
AP ^ | 12/15/2008 | staff

Posted on 12/15/2008 10:48:10 AM PST by kellynla

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down another challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to serve president because of his citizenship.

The appeal by Cort Wrotnowski of Greenwich, Conn., was denied Monday without comment.

Wrotnowski argued that Obama was a British subject at birth and therefore cannot meet the requirement for becoming president.

He wanted the high court to halt presidential electors from meeting to formally elect Obama as president.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; birthcertificate; birthers; blackhelicopters; certifigate; citizenship; conspiracytheories; constitutionless; donofrio; mobrule; noconstitution; obama; obamatruthfile; prsidency; rinobullies; ruling; scotus; supremecourt; supremepunks; tinfoilhats; tyrants; usadead; wrotnowski
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1 posted on 12/15/2008 10:48:13 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

“without comment”

They know the truth.


2 posted on 12/15/2008 10:50:05 AM PST by ryan71
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To: kellynla

“without comment”

They know the truth.


3 posted on 12/15/2008 10:50:06 AM PST by ryan71
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To: kellynla

Fine, if they won’t verify, and he won’t release his records,

the American public must assume that he is not qualified.

We’ll discuss every law that he passes in this light.


4 posted on 12/15/2008 10:50:18 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: kellynla

Well, at least now we know that yet another part of our Constitution is “irrelevent”...


5 posted on 12/15/2008 10:50:51 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: kellynla
"Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake."

What birth certificate? Obama refuses to release it.

6 posted on 12/15/2008 10:50:56 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: kellynla

Hey JUSTICES......do you see ANY PATTERN here????? WAKE UP!


7 posted on 12/15/2008 10:51:16 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: MrB

SCOTUS knows, they are afraid, end of story.


8 posted on 12/15/2008 10:51:37 AM PST by KellyM37
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To: kellynla

It just says he is guilty.


9 posted on 12/15/2008 10:51:46 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: kellynla

Constitution, shmonstitution...who needs it, anyway?


10 posted on 12/15/2008 10:52:01 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: kellynla

“Selected, not elected”

vs

“Illegally elected and selected”

I just love that we can pull the same crap on Obama that they pulled on Bush. I’ll do it tongue in cheek, surely, but it will be a fun way to infuriate libtards.


11 posted on 12/15/2008 10:52:06 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: kellynla

Nice to know that the members of our Supreme Court consider a
“birth certificate” of a 47 year old man printed out on LaserJet to be incontrovertible.


12 posted on 12/15/2008 10:52:09 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: KellyM37

Methinks they need a few

“open letters”

and

op-eds

pointing out their cowardliness for not addressing the issue and putting it to rest.


13 posted on 12/15/2008 10:53:41 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: kellynla
Anyone with wikipedia skills should edit the Natural Born Citizen Page; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
14 posted on 12/15/2008 10:55:56 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: WayneS

>>Well, at least now we know that yet another part of our Constitution is “irrelevent”...

No part of the Constitution is relevant if it gets in the way of what our rulers want to do.


15 posted on 12/15/2008 10:58:09 AM PST by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: kellynla

Congress needs to begin the process of writing legislation mandating the process by which candidates for the office of the President must show proof of complying with the Constitutional requirement being a ‘natural born citizen’. This proof doesn’t have to be made public but it should be provided to some entity/group for verification.


16 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:18 AM PST by deport
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To: KellyM37

Yep, end of story, for now. I wonder if any enterprising journaliste could undertake to dig up the facts in subsequent years, and make the “scoop of the decade”. I’m not gonna hold my breath.


17 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:27 AM PST by JulienBenda (Youth-wasted on the young. Any doubters?)
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To: kellynla

This is an absolute travesty. The USSC will neither review nor comment... and there was also with this case a brief having the newly-discovered evidence that Chester Arthur was not a US citizen.

We have a president-elect who refuses to release ANY documentation of his past.

We have a judicial system that could care less of whether the Constitution is being followed (likely for reason that they are intimidated cowards).

And we have a citizenry, who, for the most part, are indifferent.

That’s it. It is over... we are finished as a republic; we are no longer a nation of laws.

When the invasion begins, I wager 50 percent of Americans will not lift a finger, 30 percent will assist the enemy, and the remaining 20 percent will die fighting a lost cause.


18 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:40 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: kellynla

I see all these “birth certificate posts” on Obama and I keep telling people the following...

The problem is...

Bush and the Bush Administration wants nothing to do with this issue, Vice President Cheney wants nothing to do or say about this issue, McCain and his previous campaign wants nothing to do with this issue, Governor Palin wants nothing to do with this issue and is looking forward to working with Obama, the Republican Party wants nothing to do with this issue, even Rush Limbaugh wants nothing to do with this issue, many other conservative websites want nothing to do with this issue, many here on Free Republic want nothing to do with this issue — and (of course) — the Democrats want nothing to do with this issue, along with Obama wanting nothing to do with this issue. Even the FBI wants nothing to do with it...

When you can get none of your own people in positions of authority to do something about the issue, you are *dead in the water*... And that’s the way it is right now...

And, once again — US Supreme Court — “Denied...”

Do you think people will *finally* get the idea... LOL...


19 posted on 12/15/2008 11:02:01 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: deport

Yes, it does need to be public. The office is a public office. I am tired of “secret committees” loaded with “faceless, nameless or otherwise unaccountable” individuals, dictating what thing Americans will learn to live with. SHOW ME THE MONEY, BABY... OR NO SOAP!


20 posted on 12/15/2008 11:03:46 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: kellynla

There’s a report that they can’t rule until congress certifies the EC vote.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2149129/posts


21 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:03 AM PST by stockpirate (Let's start by watering the tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants.)
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To: Ann Archy

Unfortunately, I think they ARE awake.

I think they know exactly what they are doing (or, in this case, NOT doing).


22 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:28 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: oblomov

Yes. I’ve noticed that...


23 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:28 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: TCH

Seems to me the supreme court consists of a bunch of folks who are smart enough to figure out that if there are any questions about whether Obama is a citizen, then they darn well ought to hear the case. Since they decided to not hear the case, then they must have thought this case did not have enough merit to cast doubt on the matter.


24 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:48 AM PST by Blanton
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To: WayneS
Unfortunately, I think they ARE awake.

Now it's gut check time.

25 posted on 12/15/2008 11:06:39 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: kellynla
We've put up with “Impeach Bush” for years ... now we can post our own: “Obama - Ineligible To Serve”
26 posted on 12/15/2008 11:07:09 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: kellynla

Please stop the insanity... Barry O is an American citizen, born in America to an American mother.

His birth was announced and published a day or two after the fact in a Hawaiian paper, as is usually the case after a birth. Do you really think that his parents had him in Africa and then had the fore site to know that he would some day run for President, so they had an announcement of his birth published in an Hawaiian newspaper, to make it look like he was born there?

The guy is not going to be disqualified by birth, no matter how much you huff or puff about it. BTW - What are you puffing? Hawaiian Gold?

We all dislike Barry O and we all know he’s going to make a terrible President, but he will never, I repeat NEVER be removed from office because he isn’t an American citizen.

It ain’t going to happen. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.


27 posted on 12/15/2008 11:08:30 AM PST by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: Slapshot68
Nice to know that the members of our Supreme Court consider a “birth certificate” of a 47 year old man printed out on LaserJet to be incontrovertible.

Well Put!!!

28 posted on 12/15/2008 11:09:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Blanton

I think you give too much credit to the SCOTUS.

They have proved in the past that they are a very political body (hence Roe v. Wade) and that the rule of law is not always their highest motivation.

I also think they are deferring this “hot potato” to the US Congress who has to approve the candidate elected by the Electoral College. They can then claim that the will of the people has been accomplished (who cares about the US Constitution?).


29 posted on 12/15/2008 11:09:40 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: WayneS
It is very demoralizing to know that America's leadership is totally refusing to follow the Constitution or listen to the common sense of the taxpayers that they are SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING.

Quick, name this US Supreme Court Judge:

30 posted on 12/15/2008 11:09:49 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: kellynla
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY..... BELIEVABLE. If this latest example doesn't make you wake up and realize that the way we live as free citizens is being changed for the worse, than you must be delirious and in denial... or you joined the Empire on Nov.4 like half of the country did. TIME FOR?
31 posted on 12/15/2008 11:10:57 AM PST by SouthernmostFreeper (Change is all you will have left... Pocket Change)
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To: Blanton

Wow, thank goodness for your 1st post, oh wise one.
I guess we can now end the countless arguing that has been ongoing here over the last 12 months.


32 posted on 12/15/2008 11:10:57 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: TCH

*****When the invasion begins*****

The invasion is over...it began in the media, was inserted as propaganda in movies, spread thru academia into our public schools. After legislating all aspects of our lives from cradle to grave - our obedience to government is complete.


33 posted on 12/15/2008 11:11:37 AM PST by sodpoodle (Man studies evolution to understand His creation.)
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To: TCH

Yes, it does need to be public.


Well we could debate that but first we need to have something requiring it be shown. Today we have no such requirement. I have no problem with it being kept private if it is shown to a select group/entity such as two members of the SCOTUS, members of the ethics committees of Congress, etc.


34 posted on 12/15/2008 11:13:23 AM PST by deport
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To: Star Traveler
When you can get none of your own people in positions of authority to do something about the issue, you are *dead in the water*... And that’s the way it is right now...

Perhaps we just need more people who are not in positions of authority to do something and fewer apathetic defeatists.

35 posted on 12/15/2008 11:15:42 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: deport
This proof doesn’t have to be made public but it should be provided to some entity/group for verification.

For elected officials, it should be made public. Once you are a public elected official, such things are no longer private. I had to provide more information to go to college than Obama has had to to get into office.

36 posted on 12/15/2008 11:15:58 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Prole

Ruth Bader Ginsberg, maybe?


37 posted on 12/15/2008 11:16:46 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: stockpirate

This is like shouting in the wind. Who hears? This case wasn’t about forcing Obama to issue his BC, it was about the state not vetting candidates. Nobody wants to hear that.


38 posted on 12/15/2008 11:17:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: kellynla

The US Constitution is now WORTHLESS! SCOTUS just said so with this action.


39 posted on 12/15/2008 11:17:29 AM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: deport
deport wrote:
Congress needs to begin the process of writing legislation mandating the process by which candidates for the office of the President must show proof of complying with the Constitutional requirement being a ‘natural born citizen’. This proof doesn’t have to be made public but it should be provided to some entity/group for verification.
Actually, this process should be started in all of the state legislatures. And the "proof" provided should be available for verification to state election officials and any other organizations with an interested in the elections. It should be the duty of the election officials to verify qualifications prior to putting the candidate on the ballot.

Oklahoma already has started this process. See Law sought to prove candidate citizenship in Oklahoma for a story about the OK legislation.

40 posted on 12/15/2008 11:18:11 AM PST by cc2k
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To: jerod
Do you really think that his parents had him in Africa and then had the fore site to know that he would some day run for President, so they had an announcement of his birth published in an Hawaiian newspaper, to make it look like he was born there?

The announcements came from the state Health Statistics folks. Thus when the application for the Certificate of Birth, whichever form of birth record that is on file even now, the details would have been forwarded to the papers.

Too bad their practice didn't include the name of the hospital, as many do.

In the event that he was not born in Hawaii, they would not have been thinking about future eligibility for President, just citizenship, when whoever filed those papers (Mom or Grandma most likely) did so.

41 posted on 12/15/2008 11:18:17 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Star Traveler
Who will be the first?
- to decline to follow a law signed by Obama
- to decline to follow and administrative provision established by an Obama appointee?
** and then fight it through the courts?
Takes a special person with internal strength and substantial financial backing.
42 posted on 12/15/2008 11:19:00 AM PST by tbird-james
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To: jerod; kellynla

Personally, it is not that I expect Obama’s election to be nullified as much as I would like to know a little bit more about this man’s history.

It is actually very shocking how little we know about him. Release of his birth records would be a positive step towards getting some of the other important documentation released about our future president...

When people act in private and behind closed doors, there is much more tendency to deceive or cover-up. If Obama believes himself to be above the law (and in this case it may be working), it could be very destructive to the proper order of our country.

I believe that trasparency and forthrightness is always needed for those in power - especially for what might be considered the most powerful position in all the world...


43 posted on 12/15/2008 11:19:26 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Señor Zorro

For elected officials, it should be made public.


First there needs to be a requirement of proof and until we get that it matters not whether is is public or private.


44 posted on 12/15/2008 11:19:26 AM PST by deport
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To: FreeAtlanta

It’s not locked. Anyone can edit it. Just click on the “Edit” link to the right of the passage you want to edit.


45 posted on 12/15/2008 11:20:02 AM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: MrB

Obama is a POS!! How dare he fight to keep records sealed, he had no problem what so ever having the divorce records of his opponent unsealed when he was running for the Senate. Records that were sealed to protect a child. He is a scumbag!!!!


46 posted on 12/15/2008 11:20:23 AM PST by panthermom
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To: jerod

“His birth was announced and published a day or two after the fact in a Hawaiian paper, as is usually the case after a birth. Do you really think that his parents had him in Africa and then had the fore site to know that he would some day run for President, so they had an announcement of his birth published in an Hawaiian newspaper, to make it look like he was born there?”

I live in Kansas. If my wife and I were on vacation in Florida, and she gave birth, I’d put a birth anouncement in the Kansas paper (certainly not Florida)...so I don’t think the announcement proves anything.

I happen to agree with you, though. I suspect he was born in Hawaii; but, there is something on the document that he doesn’t want people to see. My suspicions: his name is either Barack Soetoro or Barack Dunham, which is contrary to the name he has used in public, or as an attorney. But, we can’t know anything for sure until he releases the information.

I have a feeling the bailout bill for the auto industry will pass eventually (like the original TARP did). Wouldn’t it be great if a rider were added by a republican, making providing a birth cert a requirement to run for president...it would take 4 years, but we would eventually find the truth.


47 posted on 12/15/2008 11:21:10 AM PST by lacrew (Yup, they're girded!)
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To: jerod

“His birth was announced and published a day or two after the fact in a Hawaiian paper, as is usually the case after a birth.”

http://wikileaks.org/leak/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf

Fourth from the bottom of the page listing births.


48 posted on 12/15/2008 11:21:41 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Blanton

That is wishful thinking... and you are whistling in the dark. Read the case briefs yourself. You tell me why Obama refuses to disclose any record of his past... and I do not mean some copy of a COLB that is issued to every TD&H who happens to pass through the state of Hawaii.

This thing stinks worse than 3-day-old fish. There is something terribly wrong here. There is going to be real trouble coming our way because of this indifference to the most basic of our laws.

We cannot even get a proper review of what is arguably the most important Constitutional issue facing this nation, because our elected officials and judges are scared to be called “racist” or else tainted by some other liberal-induced propaganda.

Are the PTB afraid their precious cities will burn? So the cities burn. So what? That would clean out three fourths of the riff-raff that has infested our nation. Let the fools torch their own homes. Let them kill each other. Let them starve and freeze to death. Good riddance to the reprobates.

There is now none standing to stop any foreign power from subverting us. There is no check and balance on the corruption of power.

They have us all in a sweat by their damn threats, and we are running with our tail between our legs. We are afraid of our own shadows because of political correctness run amok. Our leaders are cowards in plain English. It is high time we start making some threats of our own... AND CARRY THEM OUT FOR ONCE!


49 posted on 12/15/2008 11:27:13 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: TCH

When the invasion begins, I wager 50 percent of Americans will not lift a finger, 30 percent will assist the enemy, and the remaining 20 percent will die fighting a lost cause...

I would be interested in seeing the “1st” American Revolutionary War numbers on your point. My guess is they were about the same.


50 posted on 12/15/2008 11:28:30 AM PST by Hang'emAll
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