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Flat-screen TVs to face energy-efficiency rules in California (Libs intruding again)
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tv3-2009jan03,0,2869589.story ^ | 01/03/09 | Marc Lifsher

Posted on 01/05/2009 12:50:05 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220

Reporting from Sacramento -- That 52-inch, flat-screen television on the family room wall may have a terrific picture, but there's a big drawback: It's an energy hog. State regulators are getting ready to curb the growing power gluttony of TV sets by drafting the nation's first rules requiring retailers to sell only the most energy-efficient models, starting in 2011.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: california; flatscreen; hdtv; nannystate; tvtax
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1 posted on 01/05/2009 12:50:06 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Shakedown time nothing else


2 posted on 01/05/2009 12:51:50 PM PST by junta (Not even respectable mainstream conservatives can save liberalism.)
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To: junta
You are right — Tax people who can afford large TVs.

The perfect scam, the global warming hoax. Pay more in taxes to the government so government scientists can pretend to control the weather.

3 posted on 01/05/2009 12:54:35 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

People will buy from out of state...........


4 posted on 01/05/2009 12:55:00 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Red Badger

People will buy from out of state...........””

Reno and Pahrump will have a grand time increasing their sales..


5 posted on 01/05/2009 12:56:53 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Not to worry. Many people are going to be canceling their cable service as time goes on. I’ve done my part to save energy—I put my electric carving knife away.


6 posted on 01/05/2009 12:57:08 PM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: Red Badger
People will buy from out of state...........

True. Like here in Kansas, it costs so damn much to tag vehicles, Kansans tag them in Texas, Missouri or Oklahoma to evade paying the annual personal property tax. Unfortunately our "lawmakers" can't figure that out.
7 posted on 01/05/2009 12:57:30 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (The Big 3 Auto Makers - Where Attention to Kwality is Jobe Won.)
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To: Tarpon
You are right — Tax people who can afford large TVs

Based on some of the NOLA Katrina horror articles with pictures I've seen, the worst hit (poor) nearly always had a big screen in their poor little hovel. Maybe CA should think about the old adage, "minorities and poor hit hardest"......

8 posted on 01/05/2009 12:57:39 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sig Sauer P220
I was surprised how energy inefficient the flat screens are, they give out alot of heat, even more than the equivalent CRT. Coming technologies are going to cut that down, such as the advent of LED backlighting.

Still, the government should stay out of this, its silly really.

9 posted on 01/05/2009 12:58:08 PM PST by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: Tarpon

There not taxing these TVs, they’re banning them.

There is an amazing graphic at the link that shows old CRT’s are the most efficient TVs! My company replaced all our CRT computer monitors with LCDs a few years ago because they were “green”. Once again the gobbermint is trying to sell us a bill of goods.


10 posted on 01/05/2009 12:59:06 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Gaffer
the worst hit (poor) nearly always had a big screen in their poor little hovel. Maybe CA should think about the old adage, "minorities and poor hit hardest"......

There's only an impact if they actually paid for the TV - or had to personally earn the money to buy the thing. If you're not spending your own hard-earned cash it's hard to understand the value of a dollar.

11 posted on 01/05/2009 1:00:46 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Clomppity clomp.)
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To: Tarpon

We’ll just proceed like England and charge everyone a tv tax. Annually.


12 posted on 01/05/2009 1:03:12 PM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ping for your attention


13 posted on 01/05/2009 1:04:34 PM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: AbeKrieger
Hmmmm.....these are insinuations? You mean they might not have paid for these items? Couldn't be, could it? [of course, you're right]
14 posted on 01/05/2009 1:06:01 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: junta

Libs don’t just want your money - your money is just a means to an end.

They want CONTROL.

It was just a matter of (little) time before a luxury as popular as big flatscreen TVs brought the Eye of Sauron to bear.


15 posted on 01/05/2009 1:10:43 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

TFT’s, which make up the vast majority of LCD tv’s sold today, already are energy efficient. Not sure what the point of this is.

Oh, intrusion!


16 posted on 01/05/2009 1:13:10 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

They can tax my 52-inch, flat-screen television as soon as they remove the remote from my cold, dead hand...


17 posted on 01/05/2009 1:14:28 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You can sometimes get libs to admit that they despise American “consumerism”. It’s their “front” reason for hating SUVs, etc.

They really don’t like people enjoying their wealth, and will seek ways to prevent it from happening.


18 posted on 01/05/2009 1:15:31 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Just thinking about the following questions:

1) Energy consumption on (name a Hollywood liberal) home/pool/plane
2) How many hot tubs in CA?
3) Disneyland/etc?

Gads, it’s so very easy to make a (greater) fool of a public official.


19 posted on 01/05/2009 1:15:35 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Sig Sauer P220

LCDs tend to use much less power than a CRT.

You can calculate the difference in power usage by looking on the back, or in the manuals. You’re interested in the wattage each device uses.

Be sure to take the “active” state, not “standby”.

From memory, both my 27” CRT TV and my 60” LCD TV use about the same amount of power - 100W/hr.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aj50xKkRmrpcbxID3z_S9kYjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071211143530AAyBS5I

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BUT THE ARTICLE STATES:

LCD — liquid crystal display — sets use 43% more electricity, on average, than conventional tube TVs; larger models use proportionately more. Plasma TVs, which command a relatively small share of the market, need more than three times as much power as bulky, old-style sets.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 1:17:24 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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