Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP Congressmen - Want stimulus passed

Fox News ^ | January 31, 2009

[Al B.]

There is no doubt in my mind that Sarah thinks this stimulus is garbage and bad for the nation.

That being said, she probably feels she is saying all she can. People can agree or disagree with that approach but it's clear to me where she stands. Governors are in a far different position than congessmen/women. If she starts speaking purely as a national politician, she will NOT be re-elected in 2010. She's already getting the crap beat out of her up in Alaska for her trips, etc.

[3niner]

Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Sure, because money that comes from the Federal Government doesn't really cost the taxpayers anything. Idiots are still idiots, even if they have and "R" after their name.

[brushcop]

Whether we like it or not, some form of this porkulus bill is going to pass.

I don't think that's what conservatives are really debating about, we know who's got the trump cards here but it would sure be nice if all GOPers voted against it, at least they (Libtards) would "own it" completely.

It's a "message thing", nothing more, maybe a morale thing, it would help mine for sure.

[shielagolden]

very time you post we need to NAMES them RINO’s””””

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[cripplecreek]

This bailout is a disaster and the democrats should not be able to claim bipartisan support when it all comes crashing down.

[Maelstorm]

Nothing. I want it to do its job. Be the referee and leave the rest to us alone. They have proven they can not be trusted. We have allowed them to lie and steal in the name of helping kids and poor folks while making poor folks less capable and kids less educated. Yet we give them more and more money. We still proceed as if the government can provide better solutions to the problems in our lives when it continues to set up a situation where one group of people is enslaved to the needs of another. It creates a system that operates with disregard of whether it functions well or badly and when it functions badly it proclaims it only needs more money to make it function properly. It does create wealth it creates dependency.

Everywhere it has touched it has driven up costs. Education costs have skyrocketed since the government started making student loans. The cost of medical services has grown out of control as government became more and more involved. We need to stop the delusion.

[WillT]

The governors have no vote so we can worry about the Senate at this time.

[wastedyears]

As far as I know, governors don’t have a vote.

[montomike]

It would be more of a protest and self-flagellation if you substituted “Barry Manilow” for the doors!

[Sarah Barracuda]

Oh I totally agree, she is against the stimulus is bad but she thinks the Infrastructure portion of the bill is necessary, she has already been smeared by the Dems in Alaska for NOT asking for money, does anyone really think that someone who has NOT asked for more money is gonna be in favor of a bill that will make us into a socialist country, of course not. She is doing what is best for Alaska, that is her #1 priority right now, not running for President, but being the best Governor she can be to make her state prosper. Alaska’s unemployment rate is the same as the rest of the United States, they rely on Infrastructure, they rely on oil, she needs that Infrastructure portion of the bill to pass, that is crucial, it’s the rest of the bill that is total nonsense. Please, everyone, I suggest you read the letter Sarah wrote to fellow Senators, this explains everything
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/ESLletter_Jan12-2009.pdf
Also, if she came out tomorrow and blasted Obama on this bill, can you imagine the media frenzy “Sarah vs Obama” the media is already up her ass for every move she makes, she is damned if she does, and damned if she doesn’t. She can’t even take a piss without the media smearing her

[Logical me]

When has the Federal Government paid in full for all the mandated programs and laws they force on the States? Never!

[WillT]

That’s a good point. Unfortunately, we all know the answer to that question. But the federal government does give quite a lot of money to the states as well. Some of it worthwhile; most of it for junk.

[redk]

I have to give the MSM credit for putting plenty of mud in the water on both ends of this for Palin.

First they tell her constituents in Alaska that she isn't asking for enough because she wants to look fiscally conservative when she runs for POTUS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2162460/posts

Then they tell the rest of us that she has her hand in the cookie jar.

[Da Coyote]

“If Palin has her hand out I’m done with her. Period.”

I seem to remember that she told the Alaska legislators that they were well prepared for the downturn and are doing just fine, thank you.

In other words, if this is true, she once again has showed far, far more judgement, ability, and leadership than the entire house, senate, the Obamaloon/Clinton collection, and our MSM (bottom of the SAT group).

Figures.

[WellyP]

SO: “Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama’s economic aid plan...” what BS!

This is not a problem caused by the Federal government. This is a problem caused by very poor management within the STATE GOVERMNENT! Cut State spending!

[wgflyer]

This is actually not very surprising. States gave up independence from Washington when they ratified the 17th amendment. Governors are pretty happy to suckle from Washington’s teats. We the people are pretty stupid to put up with it.

[Eric Blair 2084]

If I were governor of AK, I would lobby for spending that is necessary for my state but argue against all the junk in the bill. There is a way to do that. This is the worst downturn in at least 25 years so naturally states will be hurting. Let’s face reality here.

Congratulations, you have just described exactly why government spending by definition can't work to stimulate anything except a politicians' quest for power. They will allocate capital for that purpose.

"There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income."

---Milton Friedman

[cripplecreek]

if she came out tomorrow and blasted Obama on this bill, can you imagine the media frenzy

She isn't going to win the media over and she needs to worry less about them and more about the people.

[WillT]

Palin supports the infrastructure spending that is in the bill, which is worthy for her state. As I said, she can support portions of the bill which help her state but argue against the entire bill as it stands now.

[wgflyer]

“What the GOP should do is tell Obama they will support it IF Obama changes the plan to make all of the spending contained in the bill into a grant to the states. Then the states can do what they want with it, and every state will get its share. “

The problem with this is you concede that the “stimulus” is ok, which it is not. The only real solution is for government to step back and release its death grip on the free market. I know this isn’t even a little likely, but playing with scenarios that accept the stimulus is the first step to capitulation.

What the GOP should do, at all levels, is to Just say no.