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Understanding Hollister v Soetoro a/k/a Obama, Biden
Obama Crimes ^ | January 31, 2009 | Sven Magnussen

Posted on 01/31/2009 8:09:07 PM PST by SvenMagnussen

Hollister v. Soetoro a/k/a Obama in his capacity as a natural person; in his capacity as de facto President in posse; and in his capacity as de jure President in posse and Biden. Soetoro and Biden have moved to dismiss. A complaint for Interpleader and Declartory and Injunctive Relief through counsel Philip J. Berg, Esq. and Lawrence J. Joyce, Esq.

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United States District Court for the District of Columbia; Hollister v. Soetoro a/k/a Obama in his capacity as a natural person; in his capacity as de facto President in posse; and in his capacity as de jure President in posse and Biden. Soetoro and Biden have moved to dismiss. A complaint for Interpleader and Declartory and Injunctive Relief through counsel Philip J. Berg, Esq. and Lawrence J. Joyce, Esq.

An Interpleader proceeding is an action of equity and not a claim of injury seeking relief and recovery. It's true. Plaintiff (Hollister) doesn't have a claim against Defendents (Soetoro and Biden). Plaintiff has an asset (Individual Ready Reserve) and is asking the Court to determine the proper person to deliver the asset to under certain conditions.

Plaintiff asserts in his complaint property does not have to be tangible and cites several cases to support this assertion [Plaintiff cites Carpenter v. United States, 484 U.S. 19, 25-27, 108 S.Ct. 316, 320-321, 98 L.Ed.2d 275, 283-284 (1987). First Victoria National Bank v. United States, 620 F.2d 1096, 1106-1107 (5th Cir. 1980) (“rice history acreage”, like “good will of a business”, is property); Matter of Nichols, 4 B.R. 711, 717 (E.D. Mich. 1980) (citing Black’s Law Dictionary at 1095 for proposition that “property” encompasses all things “corporeal or incorporeal, tangible or intangible, visible or invisible…”).]. Defendant answers with an assertion Plaintiff's allegations are false and baseless.

Plaintiff (Hollister) brought this Interpleader action under 28 U.S.C.A. § 1335. The dispute may involve as little as $500, Defendants (Soetoro a/k/a Obama and Biden) must be from different states. The venue, or place of trial, is anywhere that Defendants (Soetoro a/k/a/Obama and Biden) reside.

Interpleader is designed to eliminate multiple lawsuits over the same stake and to protect the Plaintiff (Hollister) from actual or potential multiple liability. Plaintiff (Hollister) asserts he faces the possibility of a conflict in his duties and multiple claims against him for the performance of these duties and cites Dunbar v. United States, 502 F.2d 506 (5th Cir. 1974) as evidence an Interpleader action can be brought against Defendants (Soetoro a/k/a Obama and Biden) even though no claim has been made.

Plaintiff (Hollister) states he has a real, reasonable, bona fide fear of exposure to multiple claims or the hazards and vexation of conflicting claims and that is sufficient for an Interpleader. See American Fidelity Fire Insurance Co. v. Construcciones Werl, Inc., 407 F. Supp. 164 (D. Virgin Islands 1975). See also, Underwriters at Lloyd’s v. Nichols, 363 F.2d 357 (8th Cir. 1966) (in such circumstances, court has a duty to allow Interpleader).

Finally, Plaintiff (Hollister) asserts ordinary processes of law aren not available to the Plaintiff for a resolution of these conflicts upon reactivation. Congress has by statute precluded members of the Armed Forces from having access to the Article III Courts until and unless they have first disobeyed an order and have been court-martialed for having done so.

Berg has his Court filings in PDF form at http://www.obamacrimes.com

1 posted on 01/31/2009 8:09:08 PM PST by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen

bump and bookmarking


2 posted on 01/31/2009 8:10:58 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: SvenMagnussen

A little translation?

I have a legal “bent” and have spent a goodly amount of time with Westlaw but this one is too much for me.


3 posted on 01/31/2009 8:13:57 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009)
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To: CaribouCrossing

I have a question. When 0bama was adopted by Soetoro, did his name legally change to “Soetoro”? If so, did he ever subsequently legally change it back to “0bama”?


4 posted on 01/31/2009 8:16:38 PM PST by Raster Man
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To: freedumb2003

>A little translation?
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>I have a legal “bent” and have spent a goodly amount of time with Westlaw but this one is too much for me.

I’m not entirely sure, but it’s my [un]educated guess that the plaintiff has IRR duties, and is therefore seeking to clear-up issues with the legitimacy of the Commander in Chief... at least that’s what it sounds like to me.


5 posted on 01/31/2009 8:27:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: freedumb2003

I have a legal bent also and this strikes me as very poorly pleaded.


6 posted on 01/31/2009 8:27:57 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Raster Man
I have a question. When 0bama was adopted by Soetoro, did his name legally change to “Soetoro”? If so, did he ever subsequently legally change it back to “0bama”?

You could ask him, but you would have to prove "standing" first. So far, nobody has been able to and The Big O has not seen fit to release most of his personal papers or information.

7 posted on 01/31/2009 8:29:53 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: OneWingedShark

It sounds that way to me, as well. Good luck to him!


8 posted on 01/31/2009 8:33:25 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

links do not work.


9 posted on 01/31/2009 8:36:22 PM PST by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Raster Man
Even if he did change his name back to Obama his BC should still read Soetoro unless he was adopted again as a child. When a child is adopted the court seals the original BC & the child receives a new BC with the adopted parents’ names on it. In order for the adult to gain access to his original BC he needs to get a court order. At least that it is my knowledge of how it works in my state.
The only evidence I have seen that shows he was adopted is his mother's divorce papers from Soetoro & his school records in Indonesia.
10 posted on 01/31/2009 8:41:58 PM PST by classical artist
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To: SvenMagnussen

Does anyone have an approximate dollar figure in what Hussein has spent so far on legal teams to keep his COLB from being viewed?


11 posted on 01/31/2009 8:42:19 PM PST by coon2000
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To: SvenMagnussen

I do not understand leagalese at all. How can Obama & Biden dismiss a case agains Obama?


12 posted on 01/31/2009 8:42:24 PM PST by Humal
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To: Humal

Who knows, I sure don’t. How does the annointed one get away with any of the crap he pulls.


13 posted on 01/31/2009 8:49:55 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Raster Man

I have a question. When 0bama was adopted by Soetoro, did his name legally change to “Soetoro”?

Yes, his name listed on his Indonesian school records is Barry Soetoro, his nationality Indonesian, his religion Islam.

Google it.


14 posted on 01/31/2009 8:53:59 PM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Raster Man
Here's his school registration -

Name: Barry Soetoro

place of birth: Honolulu

Citizenship: Indonesia (One couldn't at that time attend this school without being a citizen of Indonesia and there was no duel citizenship.)

Religion (agana) : Islam

Name of father: Lolo Soetoro

name of mother: not listed

There was no duel citizenship -

By the way, this photo is of a 34 year old man - who is it? I am serious -


15 posted on 01/31/2009 9:07:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Raster Man

Well his high school yearbook lists him as Barry Obamba. I haven’t seen anything that shows his name as Soetoro except for the Indonesian school form.


16 posted on 01/31/2009 9:14:25 PM PST by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: maine-iac7

I think it’s that guy in Indonisia that is an Obama look a like and he cashes in on that. I read or saw something about him not too long ago. Probably another lost brother.


17 posted on 01/31/2009 9:15:29 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl
You are right - his name is Ilham Anas, a 34-year-old magazine photographer, poses during an interview at his office in Jakarta, Indonesia.

cousins often look more alike than siblings - it would be interesting to track this man's family to see if there's a connection to Soetoro =

Now what are the odds of a ‘twin’ turning up, of all the possible places on earth, in the very country, indeed, the very city, that Barry lived with his ‘step father?

The question begs: Do we have our first black president or our first Indonesian president? And will the truth be buried for 50 years ‘for the good of the country’?

18 posted on 01/31/2009 9:32:14 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: ken21

Type http://www.obamacrimes.com into the address section of your address bar. Press enter or return on your keyboard. Look for the link that says Court Filings.


19 posted on 01/31/2009 10:09:41 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: Humal

Soetoro a/k/a/ Obama and Biden have asked the Court to dismiss this case because Hollister’s “allegations are false and baseless.”

In an Interpleader case, a Plaintiff holds an asset and believes in good faith they will have to distribute the asset to a claimant in the future.

Hollister is asking the Court to examine evidence and hear witnesses and determine who the rightful person is to receive the asset he now possesses. Assets in Interpleaders cases to not have to be tangible property. “Good Will” is cited as an example in the filing.


20 posted on 01/31/2009 10:16:44 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Obama can't release any papers showing he was born in the US because he wasn't!

Simply releasing certified documents could have cleared this up months ago.

We have a fraudulent pretender living in the White House.

There is no other reasonable explanation for his continued refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.

21 posted on 01/31/2009 10:47:09 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: SvenMagnussen
So, if I understand this correctly, Hollister is a member of the armed forces, and he is suing to find out if Soetoro/Obama is a lawful president, because, as a member of the armed forces, Hollister may in the future have to perform duties and/or follow orders given by Soetoro/Obama. Hollister’s “asset” is his military status.

If that is what this case says, I think it's a good idea. Technically, since noon on January 20th, everything the military has done, all orders followed, are from Soetoro/Obama. If he is not a lawful president, then the military has acted illegally (is that right?). What a can of worms that could open!

22 posted on 02/01/2009 4:57:49 AM PST by Humal
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To: Humal

It’s important to understand that Hollister is not claiming injury due to fraud or misrepresentation. Also, Hollister is not seeking compensation or recovery of funds due to fraud or misrepresentation.

Hollister is asking the Court to hear witnesses and examine the evidence to determine who is the rightful person to receive the asset he now holds. His asset is his duty to sacrifice liberty if recalled by order of the Commander in Chief.

As pointed out in the filing, the Court has held assets in Interpleader cases can be intangible assets with a minimum value of $500 or more.


23 posted on 02/01/2009 6:12:06 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: maine-iac7

Who is it?


24 posted on 02/01/2009 6:16:42 AM PST by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: hoosierham

He has released a valid birth certificate.


25 posted on 02/01/2009 6:19:26 AM PST by mlo
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To: hoosierham
There is no other reasonable explanation for his continued refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.

And if he WERE born in Honolulu but his real father is not the coal black, round headed Kenyan that he looks nothing like, but is his Indonesian "step" father, whom he does resemble - not to mention the Indonesian man in Jakarta, the VERY city he lived and went to school in when under the name Barry Soetoro?

Is the refusal to show his BC to cover up his true heritage, not where he was born?

it would be even more alike compared to a photo of 'Barry' at the same age 34...

Wonder why little barry's mom married Soetoro, an Indonesian, and moved with him to Jakarta?

wonder wonder wonder. Sometimes the eye can see more than the brain...

Barack Sr.

As Someone on the net wrote:

"A friend of mine theorizes that Barry is really half Indonesian and half white.

Obama Sr was a willing beard or duped into thinking Barry was his. [willing, maybe, because it would be helpful to have an "American" child?]

The real father was Lolo or another Indonesian foreign student from the U of Hawaii. [After her divorce, Dunham married Indonesian student Lolo Soetoro, who was attending college in Hawaii.]

The mother seemed to be all about Indonesia and Pakistan her whole life.

Once Barry left Hawaii ( after finding his original birth certificate-pg 26, Dreams from My Father ), his friends, roommates and travel destinations were not African based, but, Indonesian and Pakistani based. This picture validates that his theory is entirely plausible. " [he recalls: Of his early childhood, "That my father looked nothing like the people around me — that he was black as pitch…”

“ Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 for five years, and then in 1977 went back to Indonesia, where she worked as an anthropological field worker. She stayed there most of the rest of her life,…” wikipedia]

young barry with his granparents

and his younger Indonesian lookalike


26 posted on 02/01/2009 7:38:34 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: angcat
Who is it?

See post 18 and 26

27 posted on 02/01/2009 7:40:06 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: SvenMagnussen
a photo of barry's Indonesian sister - daughter of his mother and Lolo Soetoro - resemblance?
28 posted on 02/01/2009 7:50:05 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mlo
He has released a valid birth certificate.

He released a document verifying his eligibility only on the internet. Has anyone responsible for verifying his eligibility ever seen the actual document?

The document he posted on the internet is suspected to be a forgery. What has Obama (Mr transparency) done to show that it is not a forgery?

29 posted on 02/01/2009 7:51:55 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

Pay mlo no mind, he/she is a fraud on this issue and probably gets paid to defend his master.


30 posted on 02/01/2009 8:53:32 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: mlo
He has not;else it would be used as evidence in these court cases to refute the assertations.Instead,they are dismissed on legal lack of standings and other technicalities.

A badly hacked copy of a questionable Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii has ben posted on the internet.

A few dollars and weeks will get a state issued and stamped,verifiable birth certificate copy from most any place in the U.S.,even from "backwards" Kentucky .

Barack Hussein Obama is a con man,a huckster, a fraud perpetrated on the Presidency of these United States.

31 posted on 02/01/2009 10:42:55 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham
"He has not;else it would be used as evidence in these court cases to refute the assertations.Instead,they are dismissed on legal lack of standings and other technicalities."

That's not the way it works. The evidence would be produced if a case was ever heard. Since they have not been, it is not produced.

"A badly hacked copy of a questionable Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii has ben posted on the internet."

There is nothing "badly hacked" about it.

"A few dollars and weeks will get a state issued and stamped,verifiable birth certificate copy from most any place in the U.S.,even from "backwards" Kentucky."

And if you ask Hawaii to do that, what you get is precisely the document that was scanned and posted on the internet.

All this birther stuff is made up arguments with made up facts. It's a myth. The reality is Obama was born in Honolulu and he won the election because the economy sucked. In four years, if the economy still sucks, he'll lose. Some of us have such a hard time accepting that we're willing to sound like the "Bush was selected not elected" crowd. This stuff is no more true than that was.

32 posted on 02/01/2009 8:48:01 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
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33 posted on 02/01/2009 8:52:43 PM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: coon2000
Does anyone have an approximate dollar figure in what Hussein has spent so far on legal teams to keep his COLB from being viewed?

Of course not.

No one can possibly know that. Since the law in Hawaii is that no one except Obama can get it, and no court has ordered him to do so, he probably has had to spend almost nothing.

The "millions of dollars" fantasy is like the "travel to Pakistan forbidden to Americans" lie - just made up out of whole cloth.

34 posted on 02/04/2009 4:29:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Tom Daschle's favorite tune: "Baby you can drive my car")
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To: Jim Noble

I assumed he at least had to have lawyers address the lawsuits, did he not?


35 posted on 02/04/2009 7:43:54 AM PST by coon2000
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