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Obama may use 50-vote tactic on energy, healthcare (UNPRECEDENTED POWER GRAB!)
The Hill ^ | March 1, 2009 | Jim Snyder

Posted on 03/03/2009 5:09:59 PM PST by pleasenoobama

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I couldn't find this article posted anywhere else. I tried doing a search.

It's looking pretty bad. The liberals want to run this government like a dictatorship: end all debate and push their socialist agenda through congress as quickly as possible, bypassing all standard procedures in order to do so. I'm afraid this is the end of democracy as we know it.

1 posted on 03/03/2009 5:10:00 PM PST by pleasenoobama
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So what about the debates and hearings? Are the people’s representatives just supposed to bend over and take it from the one?

We are crossing into uncharted territory here.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 5:12:06 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: pleasenoobama

The GOP had its chance to play rough and it chose powderpuff tactics so as not to appear “mean”.

Fools.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 5:13:06 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: pleasenoobama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2196762/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2196955/posts


4 posted on 03/03/2009 5:13:13 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Tarpon

Do you remember back when you had to actually win elections in order to get more votes in order to pass laws? Instead of just changing the goal posts?


5 posted on 03/03/2009 5:13:53 PM PST by pleasenoobama (Liberals lied, small government died)
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To: pleasenoobama

Why no Democratic resistance...oh yes...they will the new Party Members in the USSA.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 5:13:57 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: pleasenoobama

Its not unprecedented, communist leaders have done this sort of thing many many times.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 5:14:10 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bamahead

Oops, apparently I don’t know how to use search properly. Tutorial?


8 posted on 03/03/2009 5:14:28 PM PST by pleasenoobama (Liberals lied, small government died)
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To: pleasenoobama

I expected this a long time ago.

so what? they can pass anything they want.

its not like the GOP even wants to stop them anymore


9 posted on 03/03/2009 5:15:13 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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.... likely to engender significant opposition from Republicans and business lobbies.

Why would business lobbies reject it when they won't have to pay health care for their workers any longer? I think that's a bunch of bull hockey. Americans don't want nationalized health care. Plain and simple, but who ever listens to us any longer?

10 posted on 03/03/2009 5:16:34 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Tarpon; swarthyguy

“So what about the debates and hearings?”

Could never get carbon credit trading through that way.

Obama has been with the carbon credit team from early on at Joyce Foundation.

He wants that through bad.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 5:16:50 PM PST by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: wac3rd

USSA = United Soviet States of America. “crying hysterically”


12 posted on 03/03/2009 5:16:55 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: pleasenoobama

The Democrats want to make it look like capitalism has failed, so they will have a good pretext for ushering in full-bodied socialist collectivism. And so far, they’re doing a great job killing the economy! They’re doing such a good job, there’s no need or reason to “hope” that they fail to save the economy: Their failure is guaranteed by their own actions, which have either been excruciatingly stupid, or else diabolically clever!

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” — C. S. Lewis


13 posted on 03/03/2009 5:17:05 PM PST by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: GeronL

Horrible as it is to waste hundreds of billions, that bill would have been way over a trillion if the Democrats only needed 50 votes. I wouldn’t be surprised if, if they only needed 50 votes, they had simply nationalized the whole economy.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 5:17:27 PM PST by pleasenoobama (Liberals lied, small government died)
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they aren’t done yet. They are just getting started.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 5:19:22 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: pleasenoobama
I always use the 'Search' link at the top of thread pages. I rarely use the box on the Forum homepage. It just doesn't work well for me.

Also, use 'Match exact phrase' search option from dropdown menu, and search on only a portion of the title.

Never fails.
16 posted on 03/03/2009 5:19:25 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: pleasenoobama

In a Republic the rule of law is supposed to prevail. And make it up as you go to win is not what is supposed to be. Our representative bodies are for debate before laws are passed.

But with Democrats, lie cheat and steal is all they know ...


17 posted on 03/03/2009 5:19:39 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: pleasenoobama
Anyone who did not see this coming is an outright fool.

Next, if anything in their agenda for change is threatened by a filibuster, they will simply change the Senate rules regarding cloture down from 60 to 50.

They do at least have the balls to do it.

18 posted on 03/03/2009 5:22:20 PM PST by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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What’s next...this man is the most unscrupulous power grabber ever...he will stop at nothing to do irrepairable damage to the country all in the name of “progress”...

scary scary times...


19 posted on 03/03/2009 5:22:21 PM PST by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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If now isn’t the time to take off the gloves in the fight against Socialism, then I don’t know what is.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 5:24:35 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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