Posted on 03/05/2009 1:52:30 PM PST by rxsid
ORDER For the reasons set forth in an accompanying memorandum, the defendants' motion to dismiss [#9] is granted, and John D. Hemenway is ordered to show cause within eleven days of the date of this order why he should not be sanctioned under Rule 11(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13033216/Dismissed
None, except bother, I suppose. He's shown all he needs to show to prove eligibility, so why should he do anything else?
And why hasnt the senate passed a resolution for Obama like the one they did for McCain that Obama was an contributor to?
Because there isn't any need for one. No one except a lunatic fringe is concerned with his eligibility.
He has an agenda, I doubt very seriously that he is a conservative. Has been a member here for a little over a month all his posts have been to defend Obama.
Obama worked for Annenberg and they would cover for him. He and Ayers are tied to Annenberg. WaPo has no love for McCain. It is much more impressive that an "enemy" defends you than a friend.
People would continue to file these lawsuits no matter what documents he produced. You seem to conveniently forget that at least half of the lawsuits are challanging his eligibility for reasons unrelated to his place of birth.
That's why his legal strategy is to file for motions to dismiss.
Oh, just to make the little issue that millions in the country doubt his eligibility go away. Must not be important to you?
Thank you, the link worked.
A passport is not the same level as being President.
You don't seem to care about logic. I'm obviously wasting my time.
You aren't being logical and you are wasting your time. I take this seriously.
What an Obama and Romney supporter you are.
Despite what you wrongly state, if Obama had a BC
proving he was a natural citizen he would not have
needed an ex parte meeting to cover it up.
and he would not have needed multiple million dollar
suits to cover up something he could have produce for $10.
and he would not have needed his legion of liars.
Thanks, got it.
First of all, I doubt the number of people who care about this issue is in the millions.
Second of all, it wouldn't go away no matter what he showed them. If someone showed a judge the vault copy of his BC, the birthers would find some way to argue the judge was in on the conspiracy and not to be trusted. If he posted an image of the vault copy on the Internet, some anonymous guy with a phony Ph.D. would write a 200 page treatise claiming to have "conclusive proof" it was a forgery.
Even if he could, by some miracle, convince the entire birther fringe that the BC was geninue, they'd be filing lawsuits claiming he is ineligible because his Father was Kenyan, or because he lived in Indonesia, or some other half-baked nonsense.
The simple answer as to why he hasn't done more to satisfy the birthers is there's no satisfying them.
But we are talking about the ultimate proof of his citizenship here, not some created in 2007 computerized facsimile.
Where is the harm in showing a simple sheet of paper that states what you claim is true.
President Bush surrendered his entire medical, dental, pay and service records on the hint that he might have been absent during his national guard service, a story to this day has yet to be proved.
That’s transparency, the press poured over every document trying to find a single shred of evidence to Convict Bush of a crime even the military wasn’t aware of, and in the end the best they could do was forge a memo that didn’t last through a day’s scrutiny
It would appear that Obama cannot dare reveal who he is on the same level that George W. Bush has done.
WTF is it with you RomneyBOTs? Why the love for Obama?
Why did you work to put him in Office and defend him now?
1) When , where, and to whom?
2) Why can't we demand to see this proof, since he's a public official, and it's a requirement for public office? We're certainly allowed to see private information (weapons permits, etc) for our fellow citizens since they're public records.
so why should he do anything else?
1) To avoid paying millions in legal fees defending 22 lawsuits.
2) To settle this issue which seems to have a few million citizens quite concerned about the security of their country.
3) As an educational exercise, since it has never been an issue before, and it would be an interesting isight into the vetting process for the most important job in the world. Invite a Discovery Channel crew to do a special on it, and have some Obama spokesfolk to guide them through it, peppering in positive pro-Obama pap throughout. Assuming that he's in the clear, this should be a no-brainer way to get some good free PR.
Since he's already "bothered" by nearly two dozen lawsuits, plus states changing their election rules, he might as well do SOMETHING to end such bother, don't you think? Or, as President, is he simply helpless to think of such simple and positive solutions to turn a negative issue into a positive result?
You, sir, are ignorant of history. We may be a representative republic but we also have the right to be heard. Anything else would mean that we are ruled. Read the First and Ninth Amendments.
If two states are changing their election rules because of this issue, I think it's safe to say that "millions" are wondering about it.
Also, Hawaii allows residents to register foreign-born infants as being born in Hawaii: Hawaiian Law §338-17.8 says:
Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child
[L 1982, c 182, §1]
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