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Fate Of Hummer Brand Is Hours Away [Emblematic of Southern CA's Economy]
OCRegister ^ | March 30, 2009

Posted on 03/30/2009 7:15:57 PM PDT by Steelfish

Fate of Hummer brand is hours away

March 30th, 2009 Matt Degen

In a day in which we’ve seen more than enough upheaval in Detroit, there comes this bit of news: The fate of GM’s Hummer brand is to be decided by Tuesday, and things aren’t exactly looking rosy.

According to an AP report, General Motors must decide by the end of the first quarter — that’s Tuesday — whether to sell the brand or let it die.

GM is reportedly still talking to buyers for the brand that made military-derived four-by-fours a common sight in Orange County, but no official word has been made.

According to AP’s report, it is possible that a Chinese automaker will buy the niche marquee.

The Associated Press reports: “The automaker has told dealers it will make an announcement about the brand’s future on Tuesday, but until then, GM will say only that it’s still negotiating with some interested parties.”

“We are cautiously optimistic,” about a sale, GM spokesman Nick Richards told AP, adding that the companies with which GM is talking are from “all different parts of the world.”

With GM on life support via federal bailout money and a push toward greener, more fuel-effecient vehicles, it’s no surprise the automaker wants to shed the Hummer brand, which has been on sale since June.

(Excerpt) Read more at auto.freedomblogging.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Russia; US: California; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; california; china; detroit; generalmotors; hummer; michigan; nomorehummersohno; russia; suv

1 posted on 03/30/2009 7:15:57 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I thought TaTa was going to take it over.


2 posted on 03/30/2009 7:17:20 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: Steelfish

I thought Hummer, Saturn and most Pontiac models were already history.


3 posted on 03/30/2009 7:20:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Steelfish

I bet Rick Wagoner wishes he’d have given Obama a Hummer.

He might still have his job and the brand might’ve been saved.


4 posted on 03/30/2009 7:20:56 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: Steelfish

I’ve heard that Chevy and Caddy will be all thats left. whoever it gets sold to by Master Obama


5 posted on 03/30/2009 7:20:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Kirkwood

Got a letter from Saturn saying GM was considering spinning off the Saturn Distribution Corporation, which would continue to source vehicles from GM and later, if that proved successful, from other companies.


6 posted on 03/30/2009 7:23:30 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Steelfish

Whatever Chairman Zero decrees to be done, will be done. And we should all have unconditional faith in His brilliant business expertise.


7 posted on 03/30/2009 7:27:14 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Steelfish
Military derived????? That is like saying that a monkey wearing a powdered wig is a member of congress. Actually that is closer to the truth. The H2’s and H3’s are standard chevy undercarriages with a look alike hummer type body bolted on top.
The H1 is the baddest 4X4 ever made but it isn't even closely related to the commercial hummers. Chevy just stole the name for marketing. A standard jeep wrangler will leave the hummers in the dust, mud, or rocks or anywhere else serious 4 wheel driving happens. The commercial Hummers are a well marketed and expensive mini vans.
8 posted on 03/30/2009 7:29:31 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

9 posted on 03/30/2009 7:32:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Steelfish
Yea, this is the ticket to GM’s salvation. Rid their big money makers. /sarc
10 posted on 03/30/2009 7:33:49 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: Steelfish
For America's sportsmen, Hummer has limitations---it's too wide, doesn't negotiate well in the forest environment because it won't squeeze between many of the trees. My old Land Rover was narrow, even had the headlights recessed into the center of the small grill, between the fenders, and the spare tire either off the stern on on the "bonnet," unlike the side mounted tire on the Jeep (which added to width).

Aside from that, put a big, common-rail diesel in it and I might just buy it.

11 posted on 03/30/2009 7:34:24 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

No further comment...


12 posted on 03/30/2009 7:38:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Rudder

It is also way too wide for the mountain roads, which is why they never really caught on in the Rocky Mountain states. They are mostly an urban California thing. They were designed for off road adventures in Iraq and Russia, not to go fishing.


13 posted on 03/30/2009 7:43:39 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Steelfish

Not just Orange County, but north Dallas and all along the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain too!


14 posted on 03/30/2009 7:51:02 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Steelfish

I guess Hummer isn’t in the next five-year plan.

I’m sure the Party has the nation’s interest at heart.


15 posted on 03/30/2009 7:55:05 PM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: Steelfish
Hummer is dead along with several other GM names and models. I guess my vehicles from now on will be Fords.
16 posted on 03/30/2009 7:55:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Actually Hummer1’s were designed for Europe.
17 posted on 03/30/2009 7:58:11 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Redbob

“Not just Orange County, but north Dallas and all along the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain too!”

That’s Lake Positraction.


18 posted on 03/30/2009 8:00:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 ("Government is a disease masquerading as it's own cure")
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To: oldenuff2no
“The H2’s and H3’s are standard chevy undercarriages”

Incorrect.

19 posted on 03/30/2009 8:04:21 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
“Hummer1’s were designed for Europe.”

And the desert.

20 posted on 03/30/2009 8:06:42 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
The local Shoshone/Bannock tribe got a big settlement over some environmental clean up issues on the reservation land. Instead of cleaning up the problem, the government just paid them off. The car dealers sold lots of new cars...including lots of Hummers...right after the payout.
21 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: oldenuff2no

We would probably be no worse off if congress was full of wig-wearing monkeys. We’ve got people who can’t wait to kill the preborn or the old, we’ve got people who can’t find the right hole to put their peckers, people who hate the people who founded this country, hate those who defend it, hate those who want to be able to defend themselves, and a bunch who think they deserve to have their asses kissed by us for taking our money and spending it however the hell they want.


22 posted on 03/30/2009 8:15:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
It is also way too wide for the mountain roads, which is why they never really caught on in the Rocky Mountain states. They are mostly an urban California thing. They were designed for off road adventures in Iraq and Russia, not to go fishing.

In all my years of off roading in the mountains of California, I have only seen one Hummer off road, and I told him that he would not be able to proceed much further up the trail as his vehicle was too wide (unlike my Jeep) to negotiate the narrow trail ahead.

23 posted on 03/30/2009 8:17:41 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Reference bump! If I could fit the whole quote into my tagline I’d do it! ;-)


24 posted on 03/30/2009 8:19:33 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: mrmargaritaville

Nice tatas and a hummer?

It doesn’t get any better than this!!!


25 posted on 03/30/2009 8:27:14 PM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Rudder

The best was an old Willys. Even with bald street tires, it could probably go more places.


26 posted on 03/30/2009 8:32:36 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: headstamp 2

“That’s Lake Positraction.” LOL! I hear ya.


27 posted on 03/30/2009 8:33:38 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: JSteff
According to Wiki.

The H2 is built under contract by AM General at a specially constructed plant in Mishawaka, Indiana, USA. Although it shares GM's GMT820 truck platform with the Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon, those vehicles differ in many ways and are constructed in three other GM plants. The H2's final frame assembly is made up of 3 sections: The front uses a modified GM 2500-Series utility frame, the mid-section is all new and is completely boxed, and the rear section uses a modified GM 1500-Series frame which is upgraded for the 8,600 pound (3629 kg) gross vehicle weight

28 posted on 03/30/2009 8:36:43 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

A 60’s Landcruiser was pretty darn good.


29 posted on 03/30/2009 8:36:48 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: JSteff

“The H2’s and H3’s are standard chevy undercarriages”
Incorrect.
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He is correct ,, the H2 is a Suburban and the H3 is that Colorado thing ... The Hummer versions have a little less front and rear overhang but other than that everything else about their capabilities is pure Chevy .. Actually the Hummer variants with the ultrawide bodywork are damn near unusable offroad and their extra weight kills fuel economy and performance and lead to disastrous front-end failures in the Suburban/H2 models...

The only real Hummer is a H1 and even that pales in comparison to a lighter weight bare bones “real” Hummer from AM General.

If you want a real off-roader get a Rover or a Land Bruiser... leave the pretenders back at the Hummer dealership.


30 posted on 03/30/2009 8:40:03 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: AFreeBird

Had a boyhood friend (in 1950’s) whose family’s farm had a resident, WWII, GI Jeep. We would take it out in the Spring, just when it’s thawing and raining. The farm was in a bottom and was then a peanut-butter-consistency mud pit. That old jeep struggled mightily and, if it got in too deep, we’d just heave to, and lift her out. Great machine. My best 4wd for the rough was the Land Rover, all 52 hoursepower of her.


31 posted on 03/30/2009 8:42:40 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: AFreeBird

The best was an old Willys. Even with bald street tires, it could probably go more places.
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Those were REAL good ,, my great uncle had a 57 Willys wagon (like a sport ute) with the flathead 6 and 3 speed ,, I used that all over VT and NH ,, it would go anywhere (had nice fresh retread snows) and that engine was ideal for creeping.


32 posted on 03/30/2009 8:44:04 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: AFreeBird
"The best was an old Willys. Even with bald street tires, it could probably go more places"

I have a 19 year old Cherokee that has never failed to get me and my equipment to whatever peak I had to occupy.

33 posted on 03/30/2009 8:44:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Steelfish
"According to AP’s report, it is possible that a Chinese automaker will buy the niche marquee."

Ain't democRat politics grand?

34 posted on 03/30/2009 8:46:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Steelfish

” a push toward greener, more fuel-effecient vehicles”

They will lose me as a customer if they intend to build that kind of crap!


35 posted on 03/30/2009 8:51:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Secret Agent Man
We would probably be no worse off if congress was full of wig-wearing monkeys.

Oh, come now! We would be FAR BETTER OFF if congress was comprised of wig-wearing monkeys because they would stand around jabbering all day, but wouldn't pass any laws. This nation has enough laws on the books to last another two millennia. Things would be much better if we repealed the bad laws and enacted a prohibition on new laws.

36 posted on 03/30/2009 9:07:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was trying to be somewhat generous to the current circus.


37 posted on 03/30/2009 9:36:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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38 posted on 03/31/2009 5:54:24 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

had the same experiences in MI, watched many a hummer (including h1s) turn around and go back while i kept going in my jeep.
gimme a jeep any day over an h1, for 1/4 the cost i can build a jeep that’ll do everything an h1 can do, and an awful lot they can’t.


39 posted on 03/31/2009 6:20:11 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: absolootezer0
Obama will save Pontiac, he thinks they are Cadillacs!
40 posted on 03/31/2009 7:05:59 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: Neidermeyer
“If you want a real off-roader get a Rover or a Land Bruiser”

That is not what they were made for. They were made to capture buyers by being the best for the price. You can't buy a “Rover or a Land Bruiser” as cheap as an H3 and most assuredly an H3. The “Rover or a Land Bruiser” are not as affordable to most buyers nor are the as inexpensive to maintain as either HUMMER.

When selling it is important to know your market. Could it be you are a snob? Would you deny the average buyer a very capable vehicle for FAR less than the buyer could afford.

A “Rover or a Land Bruiser” can't do what an M1 can either, but the average person would not want to buy one. Get realistic. Learn about marketing. The “best” 4X4 can always be surpassed by something else.

But can the most buyers be convinced to afford that vehicle or even want to buy it? So that “best” may not be the maximum volume you should sell.

The HUMMER’s were for many more than an “Rover or a Land Bruiser”. That is smart marketing.

41 posted on 03/31/2009 7:30:56 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: AFreeBird
“According to Wiki.”

Wisi is for those who want to write their own encyclopedia or use an source the may have written themselves.

It's answers are just what they or you wanted to see.

How convenient.

42 posted on 03/31/2009 7:35:02 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff
Correction.

“According to Wiki.”
Wiki is for those who want to write their own encyclopedia or use an source the may have written themselves.

It's answers are just what they or you wanted to see.

How convenient.

43 posted on 03/31/2009 7:36:46 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff

Nobody buys a new 4 wheeler for off road use .. you buy used .. I can go on Manheim and find low mileage Land Rover Disco’s for $3k-$6k all day... when sold new they are pretty much all for show ,, it’s been that way for at least 25 years or so .. when they started getting trendy.

I have gone more places offroad in a piss yellow 4 door AMC Matador CAR than most Hummers ever will...


44 posted on 04/01/2009 3:57:16 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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