Posted on 04/04/2009 1:53:15 AM PDT by valkyry1
BINGHAMTON, N.Y. – The two receptionists at the American Civic Association community center barely had time to react when a gunman stormed in the front door and shot them at close range before firing on a roomful of immigrants taking a citizenship class.
One receptionist survived, playing dead, before crawling under a desk and calling 911.
Police Chief Joseph Zikuski said she stayed on the phone for 90 minutes, "feeding us information constantly," despite a serious wound in the abdomen.
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Binghamton is a nothing little city. Nothing personal against it, but it just does not qualify as a big city. Not the type you’d expect to be hit by a terrorist attack. There’s nothing there....
anti-gun nuts take office, then there’s a bunch of shootings ready made for them to stamp their feet & wail about. you have to admit it’s pretty convenient.
A brave woman indeed!
I’m so so sorry she had to endure this horror...poor thing.
Wish I could give her a hug, or warm handshake, and tell her how special I think she is :-)
Police Chief Joseph Zikuski said she stayed on the phone for 90 minutes, "feeding us information constantly," despite a serious wound in the abdomen.
90 minutes talking to the cops, laying there reporting to the police while the killer did his stuff as the cops stood outside.
In my business I try to deliver one hour service, and if you call me and tell that you are being killed I will drop my plumbing tools and try to get to you as quickly as I can, but I'm not union/civil servant.
> Binghamton is a nothing little city. Nothing personal against it, but it just does not qualify as a big city. Not the type you’d expect to be hit by a terrorist attack. There’s nothing there....
The same could be said about Aromoana until David Gray put it on the map.
Gov. David Paterson said, “When are we going to be able to curb the kind of violence that is so fraught and so rapid that we can’t even keep track of the incidents?”
When you leftists stop preventing people from protecting themselves.
I hear you, on both statements.
I noticed that as well. Ninety minutes is a long time.
No doubt it was a gun free zone so nobody was able to be armed.
Gunman Kills 13, Himself at Upstate New York Immigrant Center
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512476,00.html
Of course, a lady who said she was the guy’s sister said he couldn’t have done it because he didn’t have a gun. Like I’m sure he would tell her what his plans were.
You can’t even get concealed carry in many counties in NYS any more, unless you are a security guard or have very extenuating circumstances. Forget it for the average citizen.
> In my business I try to deliver one hour service, and if you call me and tell that you are being killed I will drop my plumbing tools and try to get to you as quickly as I can, but I’m not union/civil servant.
Funny thing, that — the exact same thought went thru my mind when I was reading this. 90 minutes is an eternity: more than long enough for somebody to bleed out with no chance of recovery.
The police did a similar thing here in New Zealand a few months ago, hiding under cover for 45 minutes while a victim bled out, just in case the shooter was still around. Members of the public even tried to save the guy, and still the cops wouldn’t let the ambulance attend.
There’s gotta be something wrong with that methodology. Sure, it might not be ideal to have the cops come into these situations with guns blazing, but...
(actually, on the surface, that seems like a fine idea to me. But then, I’m not an expert, just a civilian).
Unfortunately, I don’t think convenience has anything to do with it. I believe somewhere in their sick minds, they want to commit this act, then justify it or make it a right act in their minds by convincing themselves that they will be the torch that the anti-gunners bear.
I have witnessed cops doing this sort of thing, on a tiny scale (a knife fight in a bar not a mass murder).
As a customer I jumped in and took a knife away from a man in a fight, I pressured the bar maid to call the police (against her will)and then when they showed up I kept playing pool and watched as it took them 15 to 20 minutes to sneak up to the bar in broad daylight.
Knowing that the call involved a man with a knife in a bar, I was stunned to see the indifference that the police had to any innocent lives at risk inside the bar (So. Cal with open doors), their only concern seemed to be institutional type safety for themselves, rescues were not on their agenda.
Too bad more people don’t understand that “gun free zone” is just pc for “target rich environment”.
0bviously a tremendously brave woman, how different it would have been if she could have fired back...she obviously has the strength of will for it
There has to be a balance between a man that can show up to work everyday and fill out forms and also be a warrior if it should ever be needed during a 30 year career, but stories like this make it seem that we have drifted too far towards having weak policeman.
Yes she might have taken him down fairly fast. But the gun grabbers will never allow that if they can have their way
That is a very good and realistic point.
> There has to be a balance between a man that can show up to work everyday and fill out forms and also be a warrior if it should ever be needed during a 30 year career, but stories like this make it seem that we have drifted too far towards having weak policeman.
I agree.
The Texas Rangers did not get their reputation for toughness by playing hop-scotch. And Wyatt Earp did not clean up at the OK Corral by handing out trespass notices. Somehow I think if these guys were involved in the NY Immigration Center shooting things may have been done differently.
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