Perry fires up anti-tax crowd (Gov says Texas can leave union if it wants to)

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[Crazieman]

AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

[af_vet_rr]

Rick Perry is NOT presidential material.

Understatement of the century. In 2006 he couldn't even win 40% of the state. In 2010, I don't think he'll make it out of the primary. Hutchison will be the next governor, barring the Democrats getting their act together and running somebody that can unite the 60% of the people who voted against Perry in 2006.

Hutchison will point out every crooked thing he's done and how he's had 8 years to be a Conservative and only now decided to be one when he's actually facing the prospect of losing an election.

[jacquej]

Which part of Texas has cool summers?

[Richard Kimball]

Austin has about 100 degrees from July to September. The upper panhandle is cooler, as it’s geographically about the same latitude as northern Oklahoma. Most of Texas, though, you can count on three digits for about half the summer.

[Richard Kimball]

That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.

[af_vet_rr]

That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Senator Hutchison.

[af_vet_rr]

That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Senator Hutchison.

[smokingfrog]

In the middle of summer, it's actually quite nice in the Davis Mountains.

[publana]

Indeed. We’ll be coming home soon.

[YellowRoseofTx]

Cool summers, that is asking a lot. I never expected anyone to want cool summers, but your best chance for close to that would be the northern panhandle or a summer cabin in the mountains of New Mexico.

[PeaRidge]

You said: “Texas still produces a lot of oil and I don't believe that Mr. 0bama is going to forgo that needed resource to help pay for his grandiose plans.”

You also said: “for Lincoln it was all about preserving the union.”

"Preserving the union" is the euphemism that historians have adopted to rationalize Lincoln's attacks on the South.

He wanted to maintain access to Southern cotton and the Mississippi. That is why he sent the warships to Charleston and Pensacola.

[PeaRidge]

You said: “....the South probably would have been left to go their own way if that IDIOT Chesnut hadn’t opened fire on Fort Sumter. He should have starved them out and taken their surrender afterwards.”

Two corrections. First, Col. James Chestnut (see your spelling please) was only charged with delivering the request for surrender to Ft. Sumter by the Confederate government. He did so. The commander in charge, with the responsibility to order the firing on Ft. Sumter was General G. T. Beauregard. He gave the order, not Chestnut.

You should also consider that these people were at least just as intelligent as you.

It is well documented that the Union troops that landed at Ft. Sumter were fed for months by the Charleston officials. This was done as a good will effort by the Confederacy while they tried to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the issue. They stopped the food shipments when they learned from their contacts in Washington and the New York newspapers that they were about to be invaded by the Union navy.

In early April, Lincoln ordered a “secret mission” to provide food and reinforcements to both Ft. Sumter and the Union garrison at Pensacola.

When the officials in Charleston found out that the Union was sending warships to Charleston, the issue of “starvation and surrender” became impossible.

Beauregard offered a peaceful resolution to Anderson. He refused. The Union ships gathered outside the harbor and Beauregard, on orders from Davis, opened fire to stop the invasion of the harbor.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Hutchison will point out every crooked thing he's done and how he's had 8 years to be a Conservative and only now decided to be one when he's actually facing the prospect of losing an election.

...and what are some of the "crooked" things he has done?

[Retired Greyhound]

It is impossible not to have Texas pride. Texas history focused more on what was great about Texas and less on the mistakes.

And just to hammer it home, we learned songs:

“The stars at night, are big and bright....deep in the heart of Texas!”

[SomeCallMeTim]

Which part of Texas has cool summers?

Galveston.... it's an island, and that moderates the temp. :-)

[Texas resident]

No worries. This is the most air conditioned state in the Union. And the mosquitos are not near as big as Canada or Minnesota. Best of luck on however you go. But you will have to ditch the snowsuit.

[af_vet_rr]

...and what are some of the "crooked" things he has done?

He tried to issue an executive order forcing every young girl to be vaccinated for something that should have been left up to the parents, since the vaccine dealt with something that was sexually transmitted. The "crooked part" is that the company that Perry would have had doing the vaccines donated money to his campaign, and had hired one of Perry's close friends to handle its Texas business and lobbying. In addition to it relating to something that was sexually transmitted, it would have been expensive, since the company that had hired Perry's good buddy was also the only provider of the vaccine, and it would have cost Texas taxpayers a pretty penny since not all could afford it - $300 or more per girl.

Then there is the Trans-Texas Corridor that Perry is trying to push through. I don't know where to start there, but let's try.

A European-owned company (Spain's Cintra) is the prime contractor (they did buy a piece of a Texas-owned company so that they could pretend to have Texas ties). There were plenty of no-bid contracts floating around (something you'd expect out of a Democrat, but preferably not a Republican). It would be the largest land grab by the government in our lifetimes, and a lot of the land that would be taken from private home, farm, and ranch owners would then be placed in the hands of other private entities (toll road authorities, construction companies, restaurants, etc.). Perry has refused time and again to release certain terms of the 50 year contract with the European-based company. Then there's Perry's connections - one of his good friends is a major consultant/lobbyist for the European-based company, and Perry made sure to appoint friends to the Texas Transportation Commission. Perry's good buddy Rudy Giuliani, his law firm was involved in some of the proceedings covering the TTC as well. Opposition? Even the state GOP in 2006 opposed Perry's plans.

Then you have the state lottery. A company that has one of Perry's closest friends as a top executive, Phil Gramm (also a former Democrat turned Republican), was consulting with Perry's office about selling the state lottery to a private organization. That company, in addition to having Phil Gramm on board, also happened to hire Rick Perry's son right in the middle of all of that.

Those are all things you expect out of sleazeball Democrats (that and a crummy grasp of Texas' history).

[screaming eagle2]

AMERICAN BY BIRTH,TEXAN BY CHOICE!

[RVN Airplane Driver]

This may come as a surprise to you but achievers usually associate themselves with like achievers. Do you not do business with your friends?

As for the forcing all young girls to be so called vaccinated against a horrible form of cancer; which my daughter has and all females are susceptible...what could be wrong with that?

Unless all of your female offspring remain virgins you may share in our family’s plight.

[Theodore R.]

I still think Perry will lose his renomination bid in March 2010. I wonder if is rhetoric at the “tea parties” is sincere. People in TX can easily fall for insincere politicians, and that may mean one KBH herself!

[af_vet_rr]

This may come as a surprise to you but achievers usually associate themselves with like achievers. Do you not do business with your friends?

If it was Ann Richards (or any other Democrat), would you have felt comfortable with her sending millions (and even billions) of dollars to companies that conveniently hired her family members, friends and associates?

As for the forcing all young girls to be so called vaccinated against a horrible form of cancer; which my daughter has and all females are susceptible...what could be wrong with that?

Rick Perry should have left something like that up to the legislature - it's not his decision whether or not to force everybody to vaccinate against something that is sexually transmitted.

Regardless of all of that, Perry has been backtracking like crazy on his secession talk. He's throwing a lot of people "under the bus" as they say, since he's been trying to take back what he said.