How to put Democratic leaders on the defensive just like Chris Matthews 'got' Cong. Pence yesterday

self | May 6, 2009 | self

[BlueStateBlues]

Chris Matthews used a gotcha question about evolution to ambush a GOPer off his game yesterday, and gloated about it today. Now here's a way conservative reporters can get prominent Dem. leaders and other liberals to cross a line, hem and haw, or look stupid: "Sir or Madam, are you an ape? Are you a great ape? Answer this question directly, yes or no."

[OH4life]

I wonder how many people in this forum would be willing to use the same antibiotics from 30 years ago when they get strep?

[Admin Moderator]

Cornfield!

[Yardstick]

Looks like the tingle running up OH4life’s leg was teh ZOT!

[Old Sarge]

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[grey_whiskers]

What is Matthews' doctorate in again? I keep forgetting.

Cheers!

[darkangel82]

iatz

[vox_freedom]

Wrong: you are ignorant, crazy, and zotted. Buh bye.

IATZ

[JRios1968]

Let's make monkeys out of them. (DemocRAT cons)

The trouble with that is that we would offend a lot of monkeys by the association...

[timestax]

Just ask, no DEMAND why ( Liberal/ DeomcRAT subject) is such an income tax dodger, income tax evader and tell them( the subject) that you are going to tell IRS on them and collect big REWARD MONEY!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And you can start by telling that to Lil Chrissie Matthews too!

[rabscuttle385]

IATZ

[LibertyRocks]

I have never gotten myself involved in this discussion here at FR really because the following is all a "layman's" viewpoint, and I am not greatly educated in either evolution or creationism as to the most commonly held views, so in reading, I ask people to keep that in mind...

And I realize that this may get me flamed, but I have a view that evolution didn't happen in the big "steps" that are so familiar to many average people (Think the poster with ape to man).

I also believe in a creator who has set up the rules, principles, and scientific laws of this world of ours. Many, many things are based on the same principles of change, subject to mutation (both good and bad), basically -- if you will -- God granted the same "free will" upon our cells and genetics as he did to the human being.

I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that the Lord created this Universe and in doing so also allowed for adaptation within nature. However, as I said I don't believe in the 'jumps' that the THEORY of evolution suggests happened...

I believe that the Lord did make a great variety of animals and organisms of all scientific classifications, along with humans. Again, He also made the "boundaries" so to say of natural evolutionary or ADAPTIVE properties. [The same way we witness viruses mutating even now -- although viruses mutated much quicker than larger more complex organisms like humans].

I guess to sum it all up; I believe in a God who created the entire universe, and created all of the scientific properties we discover today in our pursuit of scientific proof and truth. I think the THEORY of Evolution, is an OVER-explanation in some ways. And perhaps, a THEORY of Adaptation would be more close to expressing the truths of nature in these regards.

Even scientists who are avowed atheists should be satisfied with at least the part of acknowledgment of the scientific proof of adaptation of species, even if there is disagreement as to the origin of various species themselves (whether by God, as many believe, or whether as a result of massive mutations and adaptations as Evolutionists seem to believe).

I am also reminded of the following verse from Genesis, that to ME personally points to the distinct possibility of SOME kind of guided INTELLIGENT DESIGN that INCLUDES elements of the THEORY of evolution (or ADAPTATION, as I said). That verse is as follows:

From the King James Bible

Genesis 1:20-21
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, [emphasis mine]after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Again in just a few more versus we see again these phrases: [All Bold Emphasis-mine]

Genesis 1:24-25
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind and cattle after their kind, and everything that creepeth on the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

According to Genesis, Man was made in God's image, AFTER all of these other creatures, which were seemingly made "after their kind" -- or species related, but not "made" at the same time.

Perhaps what scientists are really seeing is PROOF of God's creation "style" in the similarities in Genetics and the way in which he went about creating these various creatures. Perhaps these "jumps" that are seen within the THEORY of Evolution (that takes out the variable of God's existence and creation) are GOD'S SIGNATURE within his own work? After all he created the codes that gave the variations, and gave the genetics the capability of building upon itself, and mutate, and provide for a vast variety of "applications" within the progeny of all living creatures.

Again, this is all JMHO based upon my limited study of the topics at hand -- all based upon the basic education I received in both a more "God-centered" scientific exploration in my parochial classes, and the more "secular-based" science classes in my later years of schooling.

If I had to try to come up with a name for this layman's theory I would call it "Intelligent Adaptation Creationism" or something that acknowledges again the ability of adaptation within all creatures on Earth, but also recognizes the Lord God who created ALL of these things - both the organisms themselves, and the "rules" under which they maintain life, create life, and in what ways they can adapt to environment and other factors given their structure.

I've probably tried to explain too much, and confused people as to my beliefs. It's a complicated theory to be sure! LOL And again, I'm a layman, and I'm not claiming any type of expertise, so please to "both sides" be kind in critique of this THEORY, plese.

[LibertyRocks]

I just wanted to point out the following...

If Evolution was indeed “settled science” then it would no longer be officially called the THEORY of Evolution, and would instead be official considered the LAW of Evolution.

I don’t want to argue about which belief is correct either, but isn’t the above a pretty basic fact of science regarding the naming thing? A theory has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and when it is, it is said to be a LAW. [For instance Newton had a THEORY of Gravity, long before it became Newton’s LAW of Gravity.]

[LibertyRocks]

See my post at #51, if you’d like... Might be a little too much “Bible quoting” for your taste, but essentially I agree with your point of view. I’ve never understood the argument from a scientific vs. religious viewpoint.

[Quix]

Sounds reasonable, to me.

Blessings,

[Arrowhead1952]

I wonder how many people in this forum would be willing to use the same antibiotics from 30 years ago when they get strep?

OH4life - here is you final home.

[reagan_fanatic]

LOL - nice visual there.

For some of us, our existence will end there by our own choice (.i.e., denying God.) For others, the journey will continue on.

Quite a decision to make, isn’t it?

[WalterSkinner]

..Pence, Bachmann and the rest of the newer conservative leadership should never go on shows with people like Matthews unless they are prepared for full-scale war.

DH routinely had Matthews and his leftist friends for lunch...

[metmom]

The way that dogs adapt and evolve within a single generation is undisputable evidence of evolution before our eyes and has been studied extensively.

Care to provide a source for that?

[Aquinasfan]

The way that dogs adapt and evolve within a single generation is undisputable evidence of evolution before our eyes and has been studied extensively.

Care to provide a source for that?

I'm curious, myself.

[Mr. Silverback]

Care to provide a source for that?

I'll second that question.

You aren't actually mistaking dog breeding for evolution, are you, balls?