Posted on 05/13/2009 9:56:44 AM PDT by reaganaut1
“Reducing illegitimacy is very important.”
You are so right. Why do we never see this as part of our political platform?
Similarly, we need to emphasize the importance of fatherhood. I’m not saying we need governmental programs, but we coud use the bully pulpit more effectively.
As a woman, I have seen how our family has blossomed under the care and protection of my husband. My kids would have never turned out so well without his strong, yet lighthearted, example. Because of him, I was able to focus on properly rearing the kids, knowing he would shoulder the brunt of our physical needs.
Yes the solution’s simple, the problem has become politicized.
Why would the liberals even want to stem the tide of unwed pregnancy?
Note how conservative women begin talking like liberals when the issue of male happiness is brought up.
Note how I never say anything of substance. It is just ‘anger’ or ‘bitterness’ without realizing that the men who are ‘anger’, ‘suffering’ and ‘bitter’ are those who are, in some way, married or divorced.
Where are the conservative women coming out against female teachers raping their male students? Men will do it against other men, but you never find women attack their own. They see no problem in these female rapists getting a slap on the wrist by the judge whereas, by the same exact crime, men are practically locked away for life. You find this double standard everywhere. If a man commits murder, he should be locked away as he should. But when a woman commits murder, like drowning her kids, she is considered a ‘victim’ and needs ‘medication’.
What women do not realize is that women are legally and financially destructive to a man’s life. Aside from a John Kerry, there are no instances where a woman makes a man’s life financially healthier. It is almost financially worse. Legally, it becomes a minefield where one false step, one accusation of ‘domestic abuse’, and the man loses his house, his children, his job, anything and everything, based purely on the word of a woman.
The complaint is not about women per se. It is that no gender should have so much legal power over the other.
Are conservative women interested in rolling back this legal power? No. They are interested in expanding it. If a couple of co-habitating, they will demand the man ‘do his responsibility’ and marry.
Fair enough, but why is it that the woman has no responsibilities? The relationship of my grandparents and great-grandparents would be considered ‘abusive’ and ‘totalitarian’ by today’s women simply because the women were expected to actually do something and not get their way all the time.
The reason why unmarried births are rising is because men are refusing to marry today’s women. Only an idiot would get married today with the legal power marriage has become.
I understand that you've probably experienced some negative circumstances, but this assertion is not true.
Statistically, married men tend to be wealthier and have higher incomes than unmarried men, with all other factors normalized.
After reading your post, I must say that you have shared with FR more about you and your life than you might know.
MOgirl
I have never failed to see it.
How sad that you make all men sounds stupid. It’s not true of course, but it’s sad that you apparently believe what you’re posting.
Pretty much the only thing in your post with which I agree. Seriously, you have issues that cannot be fixed here. Seek help.
This is the consequence of throwing religion under the bus. THIS is firepower to use against secular activists, that taking religion out of American life will decay and erode American culture and makes people’s lives miserable. Pregnancy happening in a marriage between a man and a women is THE way to keep people moral, happy and full of life. The alternative is ugly.
Women have more and more and more choices these days. They can easily prevent a child if they wanted. I sometimes suspect a lot of women are trapping men into marriage as well by getting pregnant. Happens nonstop with celebs these days, they hook up with a waitress, she gets pregnant, and she’s set for life.
A lot of women have got to get themselves together and start thinking beyond the next rut. There’s nothing unfeminine about being careful and getting a life of your own.
“you never find women attack their own.”
You’ve never really gone on gossip sites have you? :)
Whatever happened to ‘When a man becomes a man, he puts away childish things”?
Well said. Today’s young men mostly don’t act like men, often because they were raised by single mothers and had no honorable mature male role models in their lives.
But I also blame young women now for their promiscuity, their unwillingness to have any standards of modesty, dignity or respect. If you act like a sl*t, why should a man treat you like a lady?
Well, studies say the opposite—net net—that married men are more content.
This is a huge conversation and I am sure I have as many ‘women burned by men’ stories ( ie, he left her and the kids for her best friend, younger arm candy etc) as you do on the other side.
Bottom line is we’re screwed up as a culture and being played like violins by voracious power brokers in politics and media. Just read HG Wells. We are fast becoming the mind-numbed, sensation-driven Eloi.
I do take exception to your proposition that men are socially ‘programmed’ to seek the company of a special woman in their lives, unless you want to say programmed at the subatomic level—I’ll buy that of course, all about propagation of the species and ensuring the well being of healthy offspring to perpetuate the genepool.
In the process however, the sweet miracle is that lots of lucky men and women transcend the cheap stuff—deepen the connex and learn/accept that they are two complementary halves of a sustainable system—not identical—complementary is the operative word.
Equal in ‘value’ not in ‘attribute’. Each other’s best friend in the hard fought battle of bringing up a family, building the fabric of society. They learn to stop competing, start complementing...it’s not easy but when traditional constructs ‘hold’, people are a lot less likely to just ‘bag it’ when things get difficult.
Traditional constructs are all under attack now in the illusion of ‘tolerance’.
And as traditional values unravel and the genders get more vicious toward one another, we become putty in the hands of those who wish to manipulate us. Of course culture influencer Oprah’s twisted words inform us: Women leaving men for women, she says. I think it’s BS but do know the power her ‘opinion ordinance’ carries for the female sheeple...and many will ‘do it’ as she ‘envisions it’, even if they never ‘felt it’. Good God.
However it must be said that some hedonistic males have had a hand in promoting and consuming ‘girl on girl’ action to the point of mainstreaming it, with confused teenage girls acting against their sexual encoding to please voyueristic boyfriends. It is incredibly wrong and sad all around.
Aristotle, though brilliant, is one of history’s great misogynists of course and Paul is also a creature of his time and was harsh in his opinion of what were actually pitifully non-empowered females of his day. Their one trump card, their beauty/sexual desirability—what else did they have to play? It faded soon enough as they aged. Females passing beyond childbearing years were not much use to anyone, their collected wisdom not revered as with males—except for a few famous examples.
You see there’s a tough rap on both sides. It’s hellaciously hard being a human. That’s why we are part of a complementary system and why we need God. You cannot deny you are intrinsic to the stream.
Lastly I’m the mother of two teenage sons—no daughters— that i adore more than life itself.
I’m keenly aware of the strange conflict and vagaries that rain down on them. I’m so sad they can’t live in a more values defined world, we talk about everything. I know they experience the ‘mean girls’. Their hearts have been broken. I’ve been outraged when I’ve seen their sweet sentiments crushed and ridiculed. But those girls have been programmed too. I try and advise my boys to recognize the type and not give them the time of day.
It’s no one-way street though.
A friend’s 17 year old daughter just committed suicide after several boys had sex with her and merchandized it —in pictures and words—all over her high school. ( But didn’t the movies tell her this is way cool?....isn’t hateful online porn the du jour guidebook for today’s teens?)
But look-—we can trade shots back and forth ad nauseum. There ARE good women AND good men out here. Our best shot is to work together, I’m a lover of good men, but no fool when it comes to bad men..i just don’t throw them all in the same barrel.
Please don’t be drawn into the sex wars....it is a loser, you can end up on a desolate plateau, forever lost.
Don’t give up on the “system” God designed.
Right on all counts.
Here’s a female coming out about the atrocity of female teachers ( narcissicistic vultures) stealing the precious innocence of young boys put in their trust. They should get exactly the same prison requirement as male perpetrators...if they did, this insidious practice would screech to a halt..
This is correct. I know several welfare moms in their 30s and 40s who’ve just given birth. Their children are turning adult and they need to keep their apartments and lifestyle going. Those dependents, newborns in these two cases, allow them to do that.
Incentives matter and the war on marriage continues.
The Left seriously believes that marriage is a liberty issue for women. Being free from it and or a child is an issue of liberty. The Left worked hard to reinstitute the incentives for this.
In IL we had an enormous revolution a decade ago away from welfare and moved people off the dole. That trend has been reduced, partly by federal intervention, but largely on the local level.
thank you.
~faith,
Timothy.
“A decline in courage may be the most striking feature which an outside observer notices in the West in our days. The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately … Must one point out that from ancient times a decline in courage has been considered the first symptom of the end?”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn addressing the graduating class at Harvard University (1978).
I don’t know about the certainty of criminality. I don’t buy the liberal belief that a lack of resources = criminality. That’s an excuse. But moms who don’t marry are condemning their children to a probabilistic certainty of a life of poverty.
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