Skip to comments.George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
I'm not talking about the made up travesty of Roe v. Wade. I'm talking about natural law.
LOL! Well I tried to wait for one of the 'law-abiding' pro-lifers to respond but I see none were forthcoming. These pro-lifers are the same ones who cringe when people hold up signs of aborted fetuses at abortion clinics.
Extreme times call for extreme measures, obviously abortion on demand for the past 40 years at the cost of millions upon millions of slauightered babies is not extreme enough but to a few.
And now we have the most radical Tiller-like abortion President in the history of this nation with a rubber-stamping pro death Congress to complement him, well done pro-life movement.
It is an interesting philosophical question. Is it tragic when evil men are killed? Was the hanging of Mussolini tragic? Is the execution of a murderer tragic? Can it be tragic and justified at the same time?
This was an extra-judicial killing so it stands outside the law. It was a crime, certainly.
True. I did....and the book is Neuromancer, darn spell checkers. I know you feel strongly man....I apologize for taking it out on you. I will say that many posts on this thread help nothing for Pro-Lifers.....IMHO.
“If just ONE babys life is saved by Tillers death, that is a good thing.”
And if its about saving lives,,,
Who can doubt that Sarah, with her bravery, positive example, and clear display that the world doesnt end if you have a downs baby, saved more lives than this murderer and his treachery ever could have?
Calm down. Declaring that “we are no longer a nation under the rule of law” is ridiculous. We have plenty of leaders who are violating the laws but if anyone can simply stand up, declare that the rule of law has ended and use that to justify taking matters into his own hands—which is what you just now did—then you have justified pure anarchy. No, at present most people are not taking matters into their own hands and so you can make such foolish statements without suffering the consequences that true widespread anarchy would bring—immense suffering for everyone.
But as a statement, what you wrote justifies pure anarchy.
Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
Don’t you know that Mohammed stole that from the Talmud?
Mohammed never had an original thought in his life.
Based on your reasoning, those who ran the Nazi death camps and were prosecuted, convicted and executed were innocent because they were following the law.
While what the killer did was wrong, I'll lose no sleep over the death of Tiller.
I’ve always wondered that, and why those posts stayed up. Very strange.
Might try #702
I suppose it would be bad form for me to suggest a defence fund for the guy they’ve picked up...
Either way it’s not the word of God. Only the One can save the world.
What chapter and verse says to murder someone in church, in jesus name?
Yours is a more optimistic reading of events than mine. I hope that you're right. But I'm skeptical.
“My cat killed a little mouse last night. I felt really bad about that. I could only wish that I had a heart that could feel bad for Mr. Tiller. In this case, I feel sorrier for the cat.”
Not me. It's quite likely that Mr. Tiller is burning in Hell. It's true that if he is, he certainly got there the old-fashioned way; he earned it. But we are all sinners and apart from the mercy of Christ, we all deserve the same fate. It makes me sad to think that this person is likely in Hell.
“Extreme times call for extreme measures, obviously abortion on demand for the past 40 years at the cost of millions upon millions of slauightered babies is not extreme enough but to a few.”
I’m with you on this. If anything, prolifers will redouble their efforts to see abortion beaten JUSTLY and LEGALLY so that we don’t all have to become assassins.
We can start by lobbying against proabortion nominees for the Supreme Court.
bulldaddy is another one..means the same...kinda like range boss but meaner
it's a joke....”will you be my wardaddy, my protector sort of”
I first heard it in Sierra Leone from Brit security guys and we used to laugh about it quite a bit...in the joint a wardaddy is the punk boss ( but not always about punks), hence when things would get weird folks would joke about how they needed a wardaddy to look out for them
silly male adult humor like ranting about female genitalia or breasts
folks think it's military or snake eater stuff but it's not
anyhow...it stuck from long ago and folks who know me from the mid 80s on call me that a lot..even my kids do when teasing me
That would make sense. Gardner is along I-35. It is a straight shot right up I-34 from Wichita to Merriam.
That is logic for thinking people; too bad there aren’t many of those in an unruly mob (or the sheeple population).
fair enough ...I can be mean on here..I know it.
i apologize too.
Which One? Satan? Obama? Allah?
I am calm, just because you don’t agree is not cause to accuse me of hysterics. Is your argument that weak?
“Declaring that we are no longer a nation under the rule of law is ridiculous. “
Really? Then why do our govt officials ignore the law? Why does the average person only have rights IF they have $$ and a good lawyer?
Anarchy does bring suffering for everyone. Look at our economy. Just because people haven’t resorted to wholesale bloodshed does not mean we are not in a state of anarchy.
Whats more disturbing about this thread is all the handwringing over folks saying the truth about a man who literally killed thousands and thousands of babies...many that were viable.
That is whats effed up here.
And from some folks I respected.
This guy wa a monster period.
Did you cry when Dahmer got killed in the joint?
Would you worry about Manson?
nothing personal but yall are soft as butter.
I make no apologies whatsoever, folks here will be ill prepared for where were headed.
Since when did human beings behave logically? The reality is that it will affect people. This will be used to paint pro-lifers as a dangerous, fringe element and that will reduce the number of fence sitters who decide to take a pro-life position.
You may be right. A professional would strike when Tiller’s guard was down—at Church ona Sunday morning.
An amateur might have tried to get him on his way into the clinic, when he was always escorted by bodyguards.
I hear an arrest has been made. We will soon know motive, I think.
We are NOT ALLOWED to be:
“PRO CHOICE” on the subject of vigilante justice!
I also would never condone such an action. That said, I don’t feel bad about it.
You are so spot on!
Lets put the blame where it deserves to be, the courts. They imposed these vile practices on us with out our consent. If the issue of abortion had been handled through the legislative process we may not have liked the results, but we would have had a say in it and could reform it if we could garner enough support.
I'm praying that the killer gives himself up before any innocent person is hurt.
I am reminded of an American General, who, when he saw the horrors of the Nazi death camp, told the towns people to clean it up because he wanted them to saw what they had tolerated. What did he want them to do about it before the camp was liberated? picket? Aren’t the heroes those who risked EVERYTHING to save others? Even at the cost of killing those who were killing the innocent?
What planet have YOU been living on? Is this some sudden new revelation for you?
They’ve been blaming us for everything for DECADES. What will change? It should be status quo then, right? What changes? NOTHING!
You need to start looking at the administration for blame and damage for this. Don’t you find it convenient, after recent polls, combined with the fear this administration would love to instill in churchgoers?
STOP the inward viewpoint. You’re not helping anything with you’re warped POV.
The rules of human nature suggest that murder is done for selfish reasons, not causal ones. To believe otherwise is akin to insanity.
Elder is what LCMS calls the position. Vestry is Catholic and Episcopalian and others.
I’d forgotten the other details.....thanks!
Talk is cheap. If you really think that we are living in real anarchy now. We have widespread injustice, abuse of power etc. but we are not yet in a situation of complete anarchy. But your statement was a justification of complete anarchy. If you truly understood what anarchy, total lawlessness, is like, you would not make such irresponsible statements. We cannot overcome the mess we find ourselves in by justifying vigilanteeism or anarchy.
The best laws money can by.
Evidently tearing helpless infants to pieces is quite all right, but going to church is dangerous as hell, huh Doc?
The Unabomber did not hurt Al Gore.
Wiliam Ayers did not hurt the “peace movement”.
This will only help the other side if we let it.
See #702. Curious if you’ll answer those questions.
“If this was cleaning up some Democrat dirty laundry then the story will quickly die.”
I hope you are right. But I fear that even if this was a professional hit, it was planned in such a way as to hide the trail sufficiently to be able to still blame it on prolifers and to kill two birds with one stone: eliminate the threat to exposing Sebelius while at the same time do the Reichstag fire needed for FOCA etc.
I hope I’m wrong.
In your religion-tinted eyes, I guess I am as responsible as Tiller. Big deal.
There are a lot of "very nice" people who are going to end up in Hell. I feel very sad for them.
George Tiller had a long time to repent of his sins and instead he mocked God by destroying his creation hundreds of thousands of times.
Surely while we all deserve hell because God's standard is perfection, I think we can say without hesitation that there are a number of people who have lived on this planet who deserve no mercy when they stand before God. I believe that one of those people just found out the hard way that every knee shall bow.
Now I do feel sorry for all the members of George Tiller's church who welcomed him with open arms into their congregation and who never themselves used their own hands to shed innocent blood. Unless they turn from their sins and repent, they will likely all end up in fellowship with George Tiller forever.
Yes it was outside the law, but who lamented the killings of Uday and Qusay Hussein? They never got a trial either. If you doubt the moral relevance of the comparison ask who killed more innocent victims.
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