Posted on 05/31/2009 10:08:54 AM PDT by upchuck
WICHITA, Kan. -- Dr. George Tiller, a Kansas man who became one of the most famous figures in the national debate over abortion, was shot and killed at his church Sunday morning, KAKE-TV reported.
Tiller was walking into Reformation Lutheran Church at 10:03 a.m., when he was shot.
Tiller was pronounced dead when emergency crews arrived, the station reported.
Police were looking for a blue Ford Taurus with a K-State vanity plate, license number 225 BAB. Police described him as a white male in his 50's or 60's, 6'1," 220 lbs, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.
My, my, that idea just scares me to death. I guess I should be a damned hypocrite and say that I'm sorry someone offed the lousey ration of skunksqueeze.
Not in this life.
I have a feeling his office may be closed tomorrow morn. And that's a good thing.
But this is a lose/lose situation. It was not right for anyone to have killed anyone.
...quick somebody nudge IMissPresidentReagan...she’s got the hiccups....
What galls me most is the article. The article describes this guy as a “late term abortion provider.”
Why not label the doctor what he was, a partial birth abortion provider? The man committed infanticide, legally.
And, yes, I agree with you, this will have a bad ending for us abortion opponents.
Due to the innocuous euphemism used to describe what this doctor engaged in, there will be no sympathy for abortion foes.
My mom is a “right to choose” person. Yet, even she thinks partial birth abortion is an atrocity. Most people agree that partial birth abortion is infanticide.
Instead, the press will portray this doctor as a paragon of community spirit, family values and work ethic.
The spin already started with this article.
Would we have mourned at the murder of those who ran Auschwitz ?
Nor do I here. But I will say a prayer for his departed soul that perhaps, somehow, he may find rest.
Whether he will be judged as a murderer by God may be an open question, and none of us know the answer.
In 1942 Reinhard Heydrich was killed in Prague in cold blood. Czech commandos committed what was by the law of the land murder. They were from a country that had surrendered and they were not in uniform. They did this because he was orchestrating the destruction of the Czech people. Did they kill a tyrant or commit murder or both? There is also the case of course of John Brown and slavery.
Yes we must obey our laws, until we can no longer live with the result of not obeying them.
It sure changed his.
Apart from the many children that will now not be killed by *him* (which is obviously a *good* thing) tell me how his martyrdom (and you can be sure that that's the word the abortion lovers will use) will *help* the pro life cause.
I could give you a dozen major reasons why it will *hurt* the cause...overall...particularly with a Maoist like Hussein in the WH and RATS like Bella Pelosi in charge of Congress.
A most excellent post.
You do? I expect they're already receiving calls from prospective "investors".
Too bad God doesn't grade on a curve.
Screw O’Reilly ans anybody who worries about O’Reilly.
I hope everyone here is intelligent enough not to openly celebrate this murder. For all we know, he might have cut the guy off on traffic, or been his ex-brother-in-law, nobody knows yet. But whatever, that was a sick SOB to shoot a man as he walked into church.
Innocent people, maybe kids, had to watch that. And on top of that, if a man is walking owards a church, theres always hope God is about to speak to his heart that day.
Not cool on church steps. Not in the least.
The act is reminiscent of “Unintended Consequences.” Or perhaps, following up on some other Freepers comments above it is a false flag act, more similar to the one at the start of Travi’s first book “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”. We shall have to let things play out for a while before we have enough context to say more.
This thread, and the other one, are disgraceful, and are an embarrassment to the conservative movement.
His killer did a great service when noone else would do it.
Nope, no leniency for shoooting *anyone* as they walk into church.
Ding ding ding. First smart post in this thread.
PS: As they say down here in Georgia — “There are some folks that neeed killing.” He was one of them.
I doubt it. Most doctors, even abortionists, won’t do late term abortions. Tiller was one of a few that would.
There will be more abortions because of this. For the first time, a majority were describing themselves as “pro-life. “ That won’t happen again, and it will be harder to make the pro-life case.
I would think Tiller would burst into flame for walking on consecrated ground like the Vampire he was.
Ideally, he would have had a CONVERSION and realize the horrors he's authored. Now, he'll simply be a martyr for the abortuary industry, bathed in the gentle light the MSM will produce, while we're painted as monsters.
They will both be harshly judged, all in their due time.
The civil rights movement was going nowhere (legislatively) until cities started burning.
Well, at least the perp didn’t rip his arms and legs off and then suck his brains out.
You make the mistake of thinking that the abortion debate is won or lost in the judical and political end of the spectrum. As important as theose two arena’s are, that isn’t where they are won at all.
This is won or lost in the hearts and minds of ordinary people, and in that arena, the Leftists have already lost.
There may be a little setback in politics, but it can’t last long, as the tide is running strongly against the abortionists.
You, also, are entitled to your opinion. Equivocators and appeasers have something to say, too....Pardon me if it falls on deaf ears.Live by the long knife, die in a night of long knives. The whole point of America is that you have a democratic process that precludes the need for this kind political violence.
Your deaf ears will kill *you* in the end. You'll be lucky if you get off with the Swat team just shooting your dog.
Not the way I remember that either.
Exactly, its a leftist dream. ABORTION doctor shot and killed by a GUN, as he walked into CHURCH.
They will make his death a rally against people who oppose Abortion.
They will use it to justify gun control.
And dont forget,, the guy will be a “domestic terrorist”.
This is the worst setback for our side since that murderous assassin Rudolph. Not to mention, its not a tactic Jesus our lord ever used.
No tears for baby killers.
“Pro-lifers should condemn this as antithetical to their philosophy and beliefs.”
They DO....
Maybe “a PO potential grandfather avenging the death of a grandchild.”
Doesn’t discredit anything. I don’t think it is the best way but in a just world such men would find themselves executed under the law.
Agreed. Finding the killer is the next thing. Hopefully, he’s not dead on the side of the road right about now.
It is simply wrong to ambush and kill another human being. You have a good point. It will be used by those invested in our national killing factories to marginalize pro-life. What this person did was very selfish—he/she may have enjoyed self-gratification for an instant but does not help the cause of life whatsoever.
You need to use the clinical term postpartum abortion.
Using the clinical term helps remove any moral component that exists.
Science Rules!
It was since (and one, therefore, could argue, in part, because of) Rudolph, America has swung to majority pro-life for the first time in 15 years.
“Murder is wrong, period, regardless of who commits it.”
True, however killing to prevent a serial killer from claiming his next victim probably doesn’t fit into the category of murder...
“I would not even put it past them to commit this murder themselves, as an excuse to sieze power. Reichstag Fire, and all that...”
I agree that he would do it, but i think he’s cunning enough to sit and wait for some nut to do something, then immediately capitalize on it. I think its more likely that they had already brainstormed how they respond to things like this.
Look for term “domestic or homegrown terror”, look for this theme right as he goes to the Middle east for his speech. He might even showcase it as an example terror is just as common in christianity.
BOO-cotton-pickin' -HOO.
And you are entitled to be a posturing idiot, since I doubt that you have ever taken any action along these lines your self.
Nothing to see here just his last abortion this one many trimesters Post Birth.
Sorry, I can't buy that.
True, however killing to prevent a serial killer from claiming his next victim probably doesn’t fit into the category of murder...Engaging in extra-judicial killing of people who are engaged in legally sanctioned killing(whether abortion or executing criminals) is a slippery slope you don't want to go down.
Imagine if liberals started killing prison guards/chaplains etc... that were involved in executions.
There's a reason we're a nation of laws and not men. Excusing the killer in this case is fundamentally anti-american. If you want to get rid of abortion, do it in the courts and in the realm of public opinion. Otherwise you just push America one step closer to totalitarianism. I'm sure the feds already monitor FR. How much do you want to bet that somebody in this thread gets a knock on the door?
You'll probably be more accurate than the initial description given on the DC sniper-- an angry white guy in white van.
Jesus had something to say about “casting the first stone”. And though he was without sin,,he didnt decide to throw one. And yes, a bullet counts as a stone.
Just saying.
I am talking about the thread that has over 300 replies on it already and is only 9 threads down from this one. Sheesh
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