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A Moral Civil War: The Truth Is Millions Of Americans Believe Dr 'Baby Killer' Tiller Deserved To ..
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | June 05, 2009

Posted on 06/05/2009 10:14:07 PM PDT by Steelfish

A moral civil war: The truth is millions of Americans believe Dr 'Baby Killer' Tiller deserved to die

By DAVID JONES 06th June 2009

Somewhere beside a busy freeway in the dreary suburbs of Wichita, Kansas, there stands an anonymous, single-storey building. Its cream walls are stained by exhaust fumes and it has no external windows.

Guarded night and day by a private security patrol and CCTV cameras, and surrounded by 'No Trespassing' signs, it could be a top-security prison.

As vandals have spattered the perimeter fence with something that looks like congealed blood, it might equally be a laboratory where animal experiments are conducted.

In reality, this forbidding breeze-block rectangle is an abortion clinic - one of the most pitiful places in America.

Trading under the innocuous name of Women's Health Care Services, for more than 30 years it has served as the last resort for a wretched procession of expectant mothers who have felt compelled to terminate their pregnancies at such a late stage that the mainstream U.S. medical profession has refused to help them.

Braving a gauntlet of howling protesters who keep a daily vigil outside the clinic, banging on their car windows and brandishing gruesome placards depicting dismembered foetuses, they have journeyed here in their thousands from all over America and even abroad.

Clutching overnight bags and often wearing clothing to disguise their condition, they range from schoolgirl rape victims to far more questionable cases, such as those who claim to be suffering from depression.

They came here because they knew that Dr George Tiller, the clinic's controversial founder, seldom turned anyone away. Operating on the extreme edge of the minefield that is U.S. abortion law, his only stipulation was that clients must settle his $6,000 (£3,700) fee in full and up-front before he donned his

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionists; georgetiller; tiller
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To: DoughtyOne

“I’m simply trying to be the voice of reason here.”

And you are.


41 posted on 06/06/2009 2:30:03 AM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The rotten king got an arrow in the guts. Tiller got a bullet in the head. Both were dramatically appropriate means of address as they arrived, although no praise or even ascription of rational purpose can go to either of those who launched them.


42 posted on 06/06/2009 2:48:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
He chose Roeder for a reason.

God chose Roeder to murder Tiller? What has God chosen you to do, I wonder.
43 posted on 06/06/2009 2:56:09 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

God chooses even the devil to do all manner of things within His sovereign will.


44 posted on 06/06/2009 2:59:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

And, I would hope, God has chosen me and myriad others to remind you and myriad others that He is sovereign. He can funnel the most evil and rebellious choice to any end He wants.


45 posted on 06/06/2009 3:01:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
God did what He had to do

Now you propose to know the will of God. You propose to speak for God, merely because you think the murder of Tiller is righteous. Get help.
46 posted on 06/06/2009 3:03:05 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

Your premises are screwed seven ways from Sunday.


47 posted on 06/06/2009 3:07:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Your premises are screwed seven ways from Sunday.

Its late. When you said "God did what He had to do" I thought you were referring to the murder of Tiller. Was I wrong? It is entirely possible.
48 posted on 06/06/2009 3:14:24 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

God can arrange for a poetic justice without ascribing merit to the disordered or wicked. That seems to be just what He did here. Roeder himself remains nothing more than a loon.


49 posted on 06/06/2009 3:19:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Steelfish

Tiller still dead? What a shame,not.


50 posted on 06/06/2009 3:26:19 AM PDT by linn37 (cue the circus music the democrats are back in charge)
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To: Kansas58

I miss Wichita. I couldn’t imagine how stuff like this could go on there, it’s not a liberal town by any means. Nor could I fathom how people like Sebelius could get elected governor.


51 posted on 06/06/2009 3:30:49 AM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Steelfish

Tiller now faces his final judgment. I have only one curiosity left: what kind of church is that Lutheran church which he attended and which embraced him as one of its own?


52 posted on 06/06/2009 6:22:00 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: P-Marlowe

A good question, dear brother in Christ. Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 06/06/2009 7:51:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Start with the fact that only about 20 to 25% of the population, at best, votes “one issue” on the abortion issue. (That is “choice” and “Life” added together, with prolifers taking a slim lead.)

Then, add in the print media who have attacked ANYONE who dared to challenge Sebelius, and who have ignored the scandals of those who ran against Sebelius.

Then, add in the millions of dollars in campaign money and independent expenditure money that Tiller used to corrupt our political and legal system

54 posted on 06/06/2009 7:58:20 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I believe that every single person plays into the Conflict of the Ages on a daily basis, but I’m not sold on the idea that the Lord uses every single person every single day.

I’m not trying to be difficult here, but I do not believe the Lord was using Charles Manson on the day his crew killed Sharon Tate.

You may believe this played out in some manner that fulfilled some manifest destiny, so you may see this as ultimately fulfilling God’s plan. I could probably grasp that concept in theory.

I still wouldn’t express it as you did.


55 posted on 06/06/2009 11:05:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Gator113

Thanks Gator113. I appreciate it.


56 posted on 06/06/2009 11:06:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, I appreciate the opposing viewpoint, but I can’t quite buy into the premise in total. Take care...


57 posted on 06/06/2009 11:07:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You seem to use the fallacy of the undistributed middle quite a bit. Who says Roeder is a ‘big hero’? Whom has asserted that ‘gunning down people on the street is okay’? Hitech has bested your faulty reasoning. Walk away from the discussion before you go even further into fallacious extremes.


58 posted on 06/06/2009 11:13:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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Oops! #55 means I’m too late with a friendly warning.


59 posted on 06/06/2009 11:16:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s okay. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me. I do plan on explaining why I think you are wrong to look at things as you do here.

For instance, I don’t think the killing of the abortion doctor stands on a level playing field with the killing of the recruiters. You and I agree on that point. The problem is, you and I aren’t making the rules regarding these killings.

Both killers thought they were eliminating very evil people. That’s what we have to deal with, even if every fiber of our being screams out to us that the recruiters weren’t. We don’t get to universally rule on behalf of the psychotic, who is judged to be evil and who isn’t.

If we get to kill the people we think are Satanic, then the left is going to be able to kill people they think are Satanic. I can’t sign on to that.

Do you realize that there are people out there who think Christians are evil? How would you like to live in the United States with leftists assassinating Christians at will? We can add, those who oppose homosexual’s demands, those who oppose abortion, those who support the military... and on and on it goes.

Once you open up this pandora’s box, you won’t be able to stop it. It will essentially turn this nation into one big Hatfiled vs McCoys killing fest.

So go ahead and think that others bested me. I will accept your verdict. And I will watch as what I have warned you about comes to fruition.


60 posted on 06/06/2009 11:35:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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