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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: mission9

I’m always non-violence. Leave that stuff for the libtards and Marxist commies. They’re so good at it. Bill Ayers, call your office.


381 posted on 07/18/2009 7:37:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Could we make Gates POTUS? He may be behind Hillary in succession, but he also isn’t connected to any treasonous activities or massive single-payer health plans...


382 posted on 07/18/2009 7:38:08 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: A Navy Vet
No threats on the signs; no threats via bullhorn; no threat of violence. Peacefully picket close to their homes during a recess and let them get an "up and personal" idea how it feels to lose their privacy and inherent right to be left alone.

I kinda like this idea. Two small modifications:

1. Bullhorns, and lots of them. Make lotsa noise.
2. Make it 24x7 and don't let the bastards leave their house or sleep for a minute.

383 posted on 07/18/2009 7:39:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: jimr

I came to this thread late and haven’t read every single word. This may have been suggested-—cut off every pension for every senator and representative. This will effectively term limit them. They won’t serve if they are not building lucrative retirement accounts.


384 posted on 07/18/2009 7:39:44 PM PDT by betsyross60
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To: dcwusmc

P I N G


385 posted on 07/18/2009 7:41:22 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: ccruse456
I think secession is more practical

Perhaps that should be the last resort.
386 posted on 07/18/2009 7:46:51 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Once the communists gain power, all their enemies are INTERNAL (that's us))
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To: meyer

When I said low level terrorists, I was talking about this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526972,00.html

And right before the tea parties, we had the DHS report. My sign said, “Do I look like a dangerous extremist?” (I soooo don’t.)

“...and the talk at most concerned the enormous unconstitutional power grab that is now taking place...”

AGREED! There were people with signs that said different things. One at our protest was on plexi-glass and said in orange letters, “Where’s your transparency Obama?” There were a LOT of different things on signs, but the overwhelming concern was that government is overreaching.

Then, you had the fact that they were called tea-parties. And the media took it and ran. Because Obama’s not raising taxes. (wink) And “Why didn’t these guys protest taxes under other presidents?”

So, that’s why instead of just cheerleading, I think that if we are going to organize and march and even engage in civil disobedience, there has to be a clear statement and notion of the things we are rallying around.

If we’re all to be on the same page, we need the page.


387 posted on 07/18/2009 7:49:12 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: 1035rep

388 posted on 07/18/2009 7:50:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: LucyT

Bump Dat...


389 posted on 07/18/2009 7:53:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump for later


390 posted on 07/18/2009 7:58:26 PM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: usconservative

When we face prosecution and imprisonment for speaking out about the government’s treachery and/or the forceable taking away of our guns, that will be the moment when violent force on our part becomes necessary.

Although we are quickly approaching a time when free speech and the right to bear arms are illegal, we haven’t yet reached that time. Peaceful but forceful action can still be taken.


391 posted on 07/18/2009 8:00:20 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: usconservative

thanks


392 posted on 07/18/2009 8:01:54 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: The Right Stuff

“As someone else pointed out, since the Feds can print money anytime they want, why do they need yours?”

Every time they print money they are taking yours, it’s called inflation.


393 posted on 07/18/2009 8:07:22 PM PDT by tcat
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To: Jim Robinson

If millions marched on Washington, they would do anything we told them to do. A good start would be to repeal every law enacted over the past forty years.


394 posted on 07/18/2009 8:10:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Winstons Julia
When I said low level terrorists, I was talking about this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526972,00.html

And right before the tea parties, we had the DHS report. My sign said, “Do I look like a dangerous extremist?” (I soooo don’t.)

That puts it in perspective. I remember the DHS report - it was right before the tea parties as you mentioned, and it was mentioned by more than one of our great speakers.

I agree that we need a common, strong message. Not just from FR, but from all the various groups that are attending. Our Tea Party organizers are setting up busses and hotel rooms for us, and I'm certain that other community tea party groups are doing the same. FR is also on the bandwagon.

I believe that we all have a great deal in common, though perhaps with a bit different dialect. Most everybody is ticked off about the same things. There needs to be (if there isn't already) a national or overseeing group that will align the purposes so that they all resemble the common goal. Variations are acceptable, and perhaps encouraged, but the direction has to be common.

At great risk of starting a flame war, I would nominate Sarah Palin for that role. Seriously! The hard left doesn't like her. The RINO establishment doesn't really like her. The big government establishment doesn't like her. But many, many conservatives, libertarians, and other working people do like her. Anybody that believes in freedom likes her.

395 posted on 07/18/2009 8:18:49 PM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Ostammer will order armed guards be placed at every entrance to the city, trains, airports, all of it.

Let’s say 3,000,000 of us showed up. Would we be prepared to force our way in, if needed? Ostammer will do away with posse comitatus. The question is, will American soldiers fire on Americans, or will they disobey orders? I don’t know. Most say they wouldn’t and I like to think not, but we’ve certainly seen it happen often enough in other countries.


396 posted on 07/18/2009 8:23:01 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Outlaw Woman

It is understood that you and all of us should be cautious with the Obamaism tactics, they are in power,and positioned to hurt people who get in their way, just as Clinton, and Rahm the Ballerina are and will do to anyone in their path...that is why we must resist with every fiber of our being, and when our friends are attacked we must rally to defend them, and well as our nation...No Fear, just resolve to not lose our freedom...


397 posted on 07/18/2009 8:26:12 PM PDT by Turborules
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To: smokingfrog

Very good :)


398 posted on 07/18/2009 8:26:25 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Mr. Silverback

Fine by me.


399 posted on 07/18/2009 8:27:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: glock rocks

I thought she was disqualified on account of her cankles, or maybe her thighs. One of those.


400 posted on 07/18/2009 8:30:50 PM PDT by drubyfive
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