Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori
Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.
It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.
Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.
die hard socialists went into the democratic party years ago because they knew that they could never have been elected under their own banner.
they hijacked the democrats and subverted them years ago.
Health “care,” of the bureaucrats, by the bureaucrats, and for the bureaucrats.
PING!
Boy do I agree with That. When will the Repubs get some backbone. Look how they tried to attack CPR. OBAMA sticks out like a sore thumb, giving News conferences and telling bald face lies. His problemthe American People are starting to wake up. The Emperior has NO clothes.
We have a RIGHT to know who wrote this abortion. We have a right to know exactly what is in this piece of shit.
We have a right to FULLY understand what 'direct access to our bank accounts means'-what it the government makes a mistake and empties our our bank accounts...what recourse would we have? Would we have to jump through governmental red tape to correct the error, and what if we NEEDED our money ASAP?
And what gives ANYONE the right to tell ANY OF US how we are going to have to die, if terminally sick and heading that direction?
And what if the FAMILY disagrees?
Does the state then supracede the family, like in Terri Schaivo's case? (Michael already had another family, I hardly think he was the loving husband who, with no proof, wanted Terri snuffed [he remembered she wanted that after he got a bunch of money to take care of her]. He won.)
We need to take to the streets and we need to make sure every single American understands EXACTLY what is in this horrific DEATH CARE debacle.
This is insane and I have NEVER meant the word insane like I do now...I mean this is the stuff of nightmares, this is CUBA squared.
I want that in a bumper sticker version ASAP (or I will print it out and put in in my rear window of the car , do I need permission from someone?
Ah the so called Blue Dog Democrats. DINOs?
Our hope is to threaten all of them with their unemployment.
Some choice!
I’m recently finished reading Lenin, Stalin and Hitler by Robert Gellately. I clearly see history repeating itself.
Ping.
Look if we conservatives want to look stupid and make claims that are false then we have no one to blame but ourselves when the libs attack as for being stupid. There is enough in this bill that is disasterous, we don't need to make things up.
And actually about this part, who pays that co-pay amount when the person who has received that care cannot pay that co-pay amount? That's the part we need to be attacking.
“KILL THE BILL - before it kills us!”
That should be a bumper sticker!
Also,it should be used in every correspondence mailed to our congresscritters.
Lobbyists and special interest groups....basically those who give the largest donations to the corrupt congresscritters. When the chairperson of the committee doesn't know what is in the bill, then they have nothing to do with the composition of it.
I heard someone say last night there are THREE drafts of this bill floating. Is this the SENATE ONE?
“You act like medicare or medicaid doesn’t have horrible issues as is.”
Your friend’s son just refuted his entire list of arguments. Idiot is an appropriate label for that little marxist.
The only thing that anyone needs to know is that as soon as the government is providing health care, that is the day the government is now in control of every individual’s physical being. In addition, there is no longer any semblence of medical privacy between the doctor and patient, therefore negating Roe v. Wade. These dolts don’t even realize that they are hoping to overturn Roe.
And finally, this is my response to the marxists:
So, when this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.
I will not accept the “public option” that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.
How’s that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!
The news today on Fox is that the dems ARE going to pass it now...THEN the will make 12-20 million illegals citizens so that they can avoid being trounced during the next election.
The only thing he said to me later in the day was, “Al Gore is an idiot! A rich idiot.” ;-)
One of the best comments founf on the World Policy journal site after that article...
“”I also am “represented” by Kay Hagan. I suggested she vote “no” on the bill. I then reminded her that many farmers have switched from raising cows and pigs,
to raising foul of many species, as there may soon be a need for millions of feathers. !!!!!
My representative, Shuler, was also reminded of the surplus of petroleum products piling up because of the recent price of gas.
THIS has got to stop.””
If the people of this country really got together we could over throw this stupid health care crap..No need for a coup yet just if the people let these morons get away with the distruction of America.
it is a new language that saves on typing, especially on non text user friendly cell phones.
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