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Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 7/20/09 | Robert Wenzel

Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori

Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: azishot

die hard socialists went into the democratic party years ago because they knew that they could never have been elected under their own banner.

they hijacked the democrats and subverted them years ago.


341 posted on 07/22/2009 2:19:32 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: FromLori; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

Health “care,” of the bureaucrats, by the bureaucrats, and for the bureaucrats.

PING!


342 posted on 07/22/2009 3:23:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: luvEastTenn

Boy do I agree with That. When will the Repubs get some backbone. Look how they tried to attack CPR. OBAMA sticks out like a sore thumb, giving News conferences and telling bald face lies. His problemthe American People are starting to wake up. The Emperior has NO clothes.


343 posted on 07/22/2009 3:34:49 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I AM STUNNED. I AM OUTRAGED! I AM SICK THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE VOTED ON ... IT IS PURE SHIT!

We have a RIGHT to know who wrote this abortion. We have a right to know exactly what is in this piece of shit.

We have a right to FULLY understand what 'direct access to our bank accounts means'-what it the government makes a mistake and empties our our bank accounts...what recourse would we have? Would we have to jump through governmental red tape to correct the error, and what if we NEEDED our money ASAP?

And what gives ANYONE the right to tell ANY OF US how we are going to have to die, if terminally sick and heading that direction?

And what if the FAMILY disagrees?

Does the state then supracede the family, like in Terri Schaivo's case? (Michael already had another family, I hardly think he was the loving husband who, with no proof, wanted Terri snuffed [he remembered she wanted that after he got a bunch of money to take care of her]. He won.)

We need to take to the streets and we need to make sure every single American understands EXACTLY what is in this horrific DEATH CARE debacle.

This is insane and I have NEVER meant the word insane like I do now...I mean this is the stuff of nightmares, this is CUBA squared.

344 posted on 07/22/2009 3:42:04 AM PDT by Republic (Uhbama has sleezed and schmoozed his way through life-he is a silly little boy with inmmature dreams)
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To: PhilDragoo
Phil-did you design this?

I want that in a bumper sticker version ASAP (or I will print it out and put in in my rear window of the car , do I need permission from someone?

345 posted on 07/22/2009 3:45:33 AM PDT by Republic (Uhbama has sleezed and schmoozed his way through life-he is a silly little boy with inmmature dreams)
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To: Munz

Ah the so called Blue Dog Democrats. DINOs?

Our hope is to threaten all of them with their unemployment.


346 posted on 07/22/2009 3:55:46 AM PDT by HonestConservative (http://web.me.com/pac8185/Site_2/Podcast/Podcast.html)
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To: PhilDragoo

Some choice!

I’m recently finished reading Lenin, Stalin and Hitler by Robert Gellately. I clearly see history repeating itself.


347 posted on 07/22/2009 4:11:33 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Apple Blossom

Ping.


348 posted on 07/22/2009 4:37:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: lewislynn
You are missing the point, that is not the limitation of the amount of care you will receive, it is the amount out of pocket you will pay. Your co-pay amount per year on a major medical procedure. It is no wonder that people cannot understand this garbage in this bill because it is written so that it really is very difficult to understand.

Look if we conservatives want to look stupid and make claims that are false then we have no one to blame but ourselves when the libs attack as for being stupid. There is enough in this bill that is disasterous, we don't need to make things up.

And actually about this part, who pays that co-pay amount when the person who has received that care cannot pay that co-pay amount? That's the part we need to be attacking.

349 posted on 07/22/2009 5:00:25 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Munz

“KILL THE BILL - before it kills us!”

That should be a bumper sticker!

Also,it should be used in every correspondence mailed to our congresscritters.


350 posted on 07/22/2009 5:25:36 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Smile you're on Janet's Candid Camera!)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Who actually drafts the wording of these bills: is there some vast typing pool under Congress churning it out?

Lobbyists and special interest groups....basically those who give the largest donations to the corrupt congresscritters. When the chairperson of the committee doesn't know what is in the bill, then they have nothing to do with the composition of it.

351 posted on 07/22/2009 5:25:49 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: FromLori

I heard someone say last night there are THREE drafts of this bill floating. Is this the SENATE ONE?


352 posted on 07/22/2009 5:51:23 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: ninergold3

“You act like medicare or medicaid doesn’t have horrible issues as is.”

Your friend’s son just refuted his entire list of arguments. Idiot is an appropriate label for that little marxist.

The only thing that anyone needs to know is that as soon as the government is providing health care, that is the day the government is now in control of every individual’s physical being. In addition, there is no longer any semblence of medical privacy between the doctor and patient, therefore negating Roe v. Wade. These dolts don’t even realize that they are hoping to overturn Roe.

And finally, this is my response to the marxists:

So, when this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.

I will not accept the “public option” that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.

How’s that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!


353 posted on 07/22/2009 5:56:09 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: antceecee; All
I get the twitter thing. I guess there's no where else on the internet to post text.

Antceecee,
Strange, all of my co-workers (guys with professional jobs) who type on their blackberries all type in english. Typos? Sure. It's called not being lazy.

This "new generation" generally has no respect, the IQ of a potato and the patience of a gnat. Thanks for helping prove my point.
354 posted on 07/22/2009 6:02:22 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: Munz

The news today on Fox is that the dems ARE going to pass it now...THEN the will make 12-20 million illegals citizens so that they can avoid being trounced during the next election.


355 posted on 07/22/2009 6:47:39 AM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: kara2008
The partner to whom I gave this analysis is connected to influential members of the government. I will tell you he hasn't said anything to me about it, but afterward he shut his door and requested Obama’s policies on taxation. If I can say nothing else about him (which I can) he is an “honest broker”. His word is his bond.

The only thing he said to me later in the day was, “Al Gore is an idiot! A rich idiot.” ;-)

356 posted on 07/22/2009 6:58:10 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: FromLori

One of the best comments founf on the World Policy journal site after that article...

“”I also am “represented” by Kay Hagan. I suggested she vote “no” on the bill. I then reminded her that many farmers have switched from raising cows and pigs,
to raising foul of many species, as there may soon be a need for millions of feathers. !!!!!

My representative, Shuler, was also reminded of the surplus of petroleum products piling up because of the recent price of gas.
THIS has got to stop.””


357 posted on 07/22/2009 6:58:39 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: fightinbluhen51

If the people of this country really got together we could over throw this stupid health care crap..No need for a coup yet just if the people let these morons get away with the distruction of America.


358 posted on 07/22/2009 7:00:18 AM PDT by PLD
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To: tina07
Lets hope everyone does what we did..Can you imagine if we all did this how many people will get the message of what these commies are trying to do..All some can see is the free sign not even looking at the big picture and what liars these idiots have proved to be..
359 posted on 07/22/2009 7:03:03 AM PDT by PLD
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To: TheZMan

it is a new language that saves on typing, especially on non text user friendly cell phones.


360 posted on 07/22/2009 7:09:10 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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