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Theory: Market is Rallying Because Obama is Tanking (Just As it Sank As He Approached Presidency)
quesney

Posted on 07/31/2009 5:29:20 PM PDT by quesney

I have a theory:

The stock market is Rallying Because Obama is Tanking, just like it Tanked As Obama Came Closer to Presidency.

Could an enterprising graphic-saavy Freeper produce some kind of composite chart that overlays the Dow or S&P charts with the pre- and post-inauguration Obama approval polls (including InTrade odds on Obama's election win).

I'm guessing you'll find a pretty close (inverse) relationship and that Obama's sagging poll numbers have reassured investors.

Dow http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI#symbol=^DJI;range=2y

S&P http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^GSPC#symbol=^GSPC;range=2y

Obama Approval http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Rasmussen Poll http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Obama and Stock Market 1 http://www.kevinwebb22.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/stock-market-dow-jones-obama-chart-march-2009.jpg

Intrade Obama chance of victory http://www.intrade.com/images/generated/intrade/pe_obama_mccain.png

--- Just a theory.


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1 posted on 07/31/2009 5:29:20 PM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

....or it could be the ‘calm before the storm’?


2 posted on 07/31/2009 5:31:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: quesney

The market started sinking around June 2008 when it was pretty obvious that Hillary had been punked by Obama. It got a lot worse as his poll numbers went up and capital fled the US markets.

If someone found his Kenyan BC and he was removed - the Dow would rally 3,000 or 4,000 points.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 5:33:28 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: quesney
There was a post on here this morning about 3X ETF's. Triple leveraged institutional investors...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2305179/posts
4 posted on 07/31/2009 5:33:47 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Frantzie; All

“If someone found his Kenyan BC and he was removed - the Dow would rally 3,000 or 4,000 points.”

Yes it would and we’d see that inside of a single day! But, Danggit! As you know, I’m a Goldbug, so that wouldn’t be good news to me; the more he screws things up, the wealthier I become!

But if it will save my Country to have that Usurper gone, I’ll take the financial hit for the rest of you. ;)


5 posted on 07/31/2009 5:37:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: All

P.S. Gold and Silver kicked @ss today. Something’s a-foot. ;)


6 posted on 07/31/2009 5:39:19 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: quesney
correlation is not causation.

On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the market is pricing in the defeat or watering down of socialized medicine (among all the other factors that are in flux these days).

7 posted on 07/31/2009 5:39:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well I doubt gold would take a huge hit if the markets had a huge rally. You still have a lot of buyers in Asia and around the world.

Be wary because in the 1930s - FDR conficated gold. Supposedly an IRS agent was present when people went to the bank to open their safe deposit box. I am not sure how we will handle it this time.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 5:40:48 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: quesney
Nice try. The market is rallying because of greed (surprise.) There are plenty of investors who just can't wait to be the first to jump in and catch the "bull market." They are akin to those, who never went through one before, who think they see the end of the storm when in the eye of the hurricane.

While there are always certain stocks to be picked, the overall indices are doomed for a crash, probably before year's end.

9 posted on 07/31/2009 5:41:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"P.S. Gold and Silver kicked @ss today. Something’s a-foot. ;)"

The dollar is getting slaughtered because we are doing hundreds of billions in treasury auctions to fund the insane spending of .gov, being financed with dollars being printed out of thin air.

10 posted on 07/31/2009 5:42:55 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: the invisib1e hand

Correct. The market generally discounts the future. One of the reasons the market and economy started plummeting in Bush’s final days. The economy was hurt by 2006 Dem Congress an dthe NO Energy Policy (No to anything & everything) that drove gas prices to $4.50 a gallon.

Again discounting the future in us (due to the Dems) doing nothing when we sit on about 5 times the Saudis reservews in shale oil, coal diesel, offshore, hydrates, nat gas, etc.


11 posted on 07/31/2009 5:43:42 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: quesney

THEORY????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

fact dammit

Problem is, eventually the dems are gonna get so frustrated about not being able to get anything through that they will eventually ram SOMETHING through just so they have something to ride on in 2010.

We better throw them a bone.... quick.

(a very little one)

(no.. a teencie-eencie... tiny one)

(never mind... they’ll just blame Bush again anyway)


12 posted on 07/31/2009 5:44:53 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If someone found his Kenyan BC and he was removed - the Dow would rally 3,000 or 4,000 points.”

Why would the market go wild with Joe Biden as president?

13 posted on 07/31/2009 5:45:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: quesney
The 2010 mid-terms are just around the corner.

The 2009 recess upon us, without more approved spending. ...I hope.

US representatives returning to their respected states to hear from their constituents.

...maybe we can stop the insanity.

14 posted on 07/31/2009 5:46:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: KoRn

Yep. I’ve been in this game for over ten years now, and we have NEVER had a ‘Summer Rally’ like this one in all of that time.

Usually gold & silver tank in the summer months...


15 posted on 07/31/2009 5:47:52 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Frantzie

Honey, they’ve got to FIND it, first. ;)


16 posted on 07/31/2009 5:49:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

That was ‘Frantzie’s’ theory, not mine.


17 posted on 07/31/2009 5:51:04 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: quesney

Yup. Just like the market rose after the GOP takeover of the House in 1994.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 5:53:42 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: quesney

IMHO, we’re coming up on the mother of all shorting opportunities. Seen this?

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20090724.gif


19 posted on 07/31/2009 5:56:10 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: quesney
Looks like your theory has merit to me. Oh course, I'm no expert.


20 posted on 07/31/2009 5:57:00 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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