"You talkin' to me?
Are you talkin' to ME?"
Heh, heh. Are we now?
I may or may not be nuts but I'm enjoying the hell out of watching you left-wing wackos being driven nuts by the whole birth certificate dealio.
But the topic is interesting, even though I'm agnostic on it.
This is the feller who thinks (still) that Trig isn’t Sarah’s son, so we all have to make the same allowances for Sullivan that he pretends to make for the birthers. Nevertheless, he’s picking up on the salient point - why is everyone so eager to ridicule the birthers when the disproof is yet to be produced?
Then you must be nuts too, because all the so called "birthers" want is to see the original certificate as well, which Obama has made into an issue because of his refusal to comply with the law and show it, and because he has spent so much money refusing to provide it.
"You talkin' to me?
Are you talkin' to ME?"
Try explaining this reasoning to some of our FRiends who take the word of Dr. Fukino as proof positive of Obama's birth on American soil and his eligibility to be President.
Um, Andrew? If you want to see the original record, you ARE a birther. That is the primary birther demand.
My suspicion is that he is talking about the COLB, not the original long form birth certificate, as that was the only document in question in 2008.
They are playing word games, but being careful not to entrap themselves, and maintaining plausible deniability.
Has anyone asked Dr Fukino her definition of “natural born” and her qualifications to make such a determination?
I’m trying to figure out why people who say they love the Constitution think Obama has to incriminate himself.
So it’s perect the left who are worried about Obama can use the premise that they believe he is a citizen and all and that it is the right wing extremist nutjobs who are crazy that beleive Obama is not a citizen and that it is the right wing who are unrelenting in getting the birth certificate so to show what crazy loons the right are why not just show the birth certificate- so the left gets it both ways-they want to see it but they swear only to shut up the birthers——
Even a biased queen like Sullivan can see that CNN blatantly lied.
Careful Andrew. That's how it starts.
Ping!
I didn't think this statement was consistent with the original statement. Does anyone have a link to the original statement to which he is referring?
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... And who is causing this weirdness?
(Thanks, Slings and Arrows.)
But why are we supposed to rely on the testimony of Dr Fukino, whom I believe entirely. It is not my job as a journalist or yours as a citizen to take public officials on trust. They are not to be trusted, whoever they are. It is our job to demand all the evidence we want or need. I know the electronic record is legit. I have no doubt that Obama has every constitutional right to be president. I think the Birthers are nuts. But there is no reason on earth that the original cannot be retrieved and shown. Jon Klein and CNN were wrong, and I retract my apology of yesterday.
Obama promised total transparency. Where is it? Or will it arrive at the moment when he tackles the deficit, and withdraws from Iraq?
Finally, we are starting to see some of the absurd groupthink breaking up in the MSM. The Kenyan Clown's behavior has not been reasonable --- the real question is why it has taken almost a year for the MSM to even allow this discussion to become public.
This has become one of the most embarrassing episodes in the history of "journalism": journalists should be asking these legitimate and vital questions, and certainly not mocking those who are doing so in their stead.
I have never seen such absurd venom directed at any group by the American media as this; we literally have hundreds of newspapers calling people "crazy" and "stupid" for having the temerity to say "We want to see the records." This the same press that should be using the same philosophical principles behind the Freedom of Information Act:
(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Freedom_of_information_legislation&oldid=303651552)
The ability to question our government and having the burden of answering these questions on the government with its vast resources is a great strength of our system.
So let the sunshine in: produce the full birth records (apostille, if necessary); produce all passports, both past and present; and produce documentation of Obama's visa or citizenship status for his long sojourn in Indonesia.
Which role is he playing there.. ‘Vilifying the Victim’ or ‘CYA’?
Anyway, good onya, Andrew. At least you’re semi, sorta, kinda, almost, lil, maybe, bit; coming forth.