Skip to comments.UPI: 'Birther': She has Obama birth certificate
Posted on 08/04/2009 6:07:57 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
MISSION VIEJO, Calif., Aug. 4 (UPI) -- A California lawyer who has filed a lawsuit alleging President Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen says she has a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate.
Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, a leading "birther," filed a motion over the weekend for quick action on her lawsuit, The Orange County Register reported. She acknowledged the Kenyan document might be a forgery and asked U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to request verification from the Kenyan government.
"There are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document," she said in her filing. "It is also apparent ... that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America."
Proof that Obama was born in Hawaii includes his birth certificate there, statements of Hawaiian officials and a birth notice in a Honolulu newspaper.
Taitz's document, described as a certified copy, says Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in a hospital in Mombasa. The document is dated Feb. 17, 1964, and stamped Republic of Kenya.
Media Matters for America, a Democratic-leaning watchdog group, says Kenya did not become a Republic until later in 1964.
By the way, "Happy Where's Your Birth Certificate Day."
Hilarious! All three of these points have already been shown to be extremely weak.
It’s just a journalistic formula. Throw in something from the other side at the end of the story. That’s “balance.”
So, if the Pope gives a speech in favor of charity, goodness, and kindness, there is always a quote at the end from Lesbian Witches for the Advancement of Wickedness.
Hillary is on her way to Nairobi.
Would the ledger books be in Mombasa, where Obama was born, or in Nairobi, the capital?
False...are these people capable of research?
Fake...but accurate. Has a familiar ring to it.
Probably the half-educated reporter doesn’t know the difference between “proof” and “evidence.”
The bottomline is that Obama will have to present his original birth certificate to authenticate or prove this Kenyan birth certificate to be a forgery (lol).
Well, I’m sure Hillary is going there to find out.
“Hillary is on her way to Nairobi.
Would the ledger books be in Mombasa, where Obama was born, or in Nairobi, the capital?”
Notice the subtle change to from "has released his birth certificate" to "his birth certificate there." Of course the fact that Sec. of State spokeswoman Janice Obuko just stated that she has "seen" the document proves that the original, long form BC has not been released.
I sure hope that you can locate his Kenyan birth certificate!
“According to Wikipedia entries, Kenya ceased to be a Colonial entity of Britain on the 12th December 1963.
I have a feeling this is going to come to London, surely everything upto becoming a Republic is recorded with our Foreign office?”
The bottomline is that we need Obama’s original long form birth certificate in court.
Like the Gipper said “Trust, but verify!” Amen!
Or as Slick Willy would have said “I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours. In fact, I'll show you mine even if you don't show me yours. Hell's bells, I'll show you mine even if you don't want to see it.” Sneer. Snort.
I’m personally convinced the whole “birther” thing helps Obama, the same way having Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan and the “911 truthers” seen as represening the left helped Bush win reelection. For that reason alone, if I was Obama, I would never release my birht certificate. The people in the middle are rapidly realizing how dangerous Obama’s policies are. The only thing that will stop a conservative resurgence in 2010 is if they view conservatives as a bunch of shrill, crazy kooks.
Anyway, ya’ll have fun with it. I’m out.
What is fuuny is that, if true, Obie has put his dreams in the hands of a Klintoon !! Oh the hilarity of it all. I wonder how fast she use a pocket scanner and send a copy of it to everyone on the planet?
Oh come on now. Are you saying the word of a government bureaucrat should ever be called into question?
Did this just go Nuclear? Happy B-Day, Jag-ass
Do you think Hillary would actually retrieve it for Obama? Or keep it for herself?
Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.
“Happy Where’s Your Birth Certificate Day.”
Read posts #10 and #22. It appears you are incorrect.
From post #10- “According to Wikipedia entries, Kenya ceased to be a Colonial entity of Britain on the 12th December 1963.”
Yes, I’ve read that at several other threads here at FR.
“Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.”
And protesters at Town Halls are being called right-wing extremists? Look no matter what we do the Dems, via their media pals, will paint us a s such. Thus we must proportionally take on each issue.
I believe in moderation in regards to strategy but as of now, after Hawaii once again claimed to have "seen" the original BC (because they have it in their possession) this comes down to very simple argument about intellectual honesty. If HI says they have "seen" it then it HAS NOT been released. Thus every anti-brther and syncophant leftist from top to bottom can't be allowed to claim that the COLB IS the long form BC. I believe that technically the COLB could be considered sufficient for HI to claim natural born status and thus pass constitutional muster but that does not mean we should cede to the dishonest position of the Obamots.
UPI’s version of Orly Taitz possessing Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
From 1952 to 1959, Kenya was under a state of emergency arising from the "Mau Mau" insurgency against British colonial rule in general and its land policies in particular. This rebellion took place almost exclusively in the highlands of central Kenya among the Kikuyu people. Tens of thousands of Kikuyu died in the fighting or in the detention camps and restricted villages. British losses were about 650. During this period, African participation in the political process increased rapidly.
The first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took place in 1957. Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year joined the Commonwealth. Jomo Kenyatta, an ethnic Kikuyu and head of the Kenya African National Union (KANU), became Kenya's first President. The minority party, Kenya African Democratic Union (KADU), representing a coalition of small ethnic groups that had feared dominance by larger ones, dissolved itself in 1964 and joined KANU.
Looks like the British called it Kenya back then , yes ?
I don't see anything about it being called anything but Kenya in modern history
Hillary is already headed to Kenya to “take care of some things”.
Dangerously close to being a full fledged banana republic when we cannot conclude whether our leader is authentic six months + after he assumed power?
Yes, I read that and I agree with you!
If the AP or the New York Times can debunk this by showing that there are discrepancies with known, authenticated documents, they will do so post haste.
If they don't do this debunking in the next 24 hours, then I think that there's a reasonable chance that the document doesn't have such discrepancies.
When Hillary gets there, she might find that she needs to go to the U.K. (lol).
“Hillary is already headed to Kenya to take care of some things.”
“I have a feeling this is going to come to London, surely everything upto becoming a Republic is recorded with our Foreign office?”
IF POTUS Obama was indeed born in Kenya and the BC is authentic....a copy would be in England, would it not?
Good catch! Hillary is the bag lady.
Orly Taitz case at the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, CA. (Lightfoot vs. Bowen) may be the beginning of the end for Obama’s stint in the White House.
it will be like asking Fact check.org or SNOPES for the BC, it ain't gonna happen, Kenya gets major foriegn aid funding from the USA
Principal Government Officials President--Mwai Kibaki Vice President--Kalonzo Musyoka
Prime Minister--Raila Odinga
Minister of Foreign Affairs--Moses Wetangula,
Ambassador to the United States--Peter Ogego,
Ambassador to the United Nations--Zachary Muita-Muburi
Consulate General Los Angeles--Nyambara Kamau
Well, I have not yet to seen proof that the birth certificate in Orly Taitz possession is a forgery- maybe it is authentic. The timeline fits.
there are extremely powerful monetary forces backing Obama
Power like that will squash this little lawsuit like a fly on a teleprompter
Obama has left a long trail of suspicious activity. He may have attended Occidental College as Barry Soetoro and as a foreign student. This could prove that he had Indonesian citizenship.
"Happy Where's Your Birth Certificate Day."
You are correct: nothing has been proven. The "Republic of Kenya" bit may prove to be anachronistic, but no one has shown that conclusively.
The Taitz document names definite people and references specific official records. These can be checked. If the MSM could publish a story debunking the Taitz document using the vast resources available to them in Africa, I am certain that they would do so as quickly as possible --- and they haven't.
The dog that isn't barking is the one that I am listening for.
Yes, I’ve been watching for that. They basically have no defense.
“If the MSM could publish a story debunking the Taitz document using the vast resources available to them in Africa, I am certain that they would do so as quickly as possible -— and they haven’t.
The dog that isn’t barking is the one that I am listening for.”
Thanks for the update, LucyT
Happy BC Day! Ping
When I first saw that Ms. Taitz had this on her website, I thought it would be her undoing. When I read, however, that she filed suit to have the document verified... I realized that she is smarter than I thought.
I always knew she was brave, but this is a genius move... don’t know if it will work, but I appreciate that there is someone who is covering all the bases on this, no matter where it goes.
It may have been archived in both places, if not more.
The UK may have one too, being the birth took place in the British Protectorate ten-mile strip, more than 2 years before they allowed Kenya, and Coast Province, its independence ...
Yes, Orly has a great game-plan and it appears that she might “pull one out of the bag.” Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate that she possesses fits the proper timeline. It was probably prepared for presentation for the divorce of Obama’s parents in 1964.