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Irving Kristol, Architect of Neoconservatism, Dies at 89
The Washington Post ^ | September 18, 2009 | Adam Bernstein

Posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: ari-freedom
There is only one FATHER of the Reagan Revolution.

That would be, Ronald Reagan himself!

Irving Kristol was the FATHER of the neoconservative movement. A movement more progressive, aka. liberal, in its nature than conservative.

41 posted on 09/18/2009 2:13:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Palin Republic

Ron Paul? He’s the shrimp-subsidy guy, right?


42 posted on 09/18/2009 2:17:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GoldStandard
"As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”

Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

Precisely!

A friend of mine wrote an article the other day mentioning the Bilderbergers. The editor cut that portion of the article out saying that "ANY mention of the Bilderbergers was anti-Semitic". As my writer friend said, the only Jewish Bilderberger he even knew of was George Soros, so that's a non-starter.

43 posted on 09/18/2009 2:17:10 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: EveningStar; djsherin; bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc; Favor Center
...a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality"...

More like a movement for liberals who wanted to pretend they were conservative without actually giving up their statist, quasi-fascist, Big Government tendencies.

44 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:11 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: EveningStar

Sorry, never heard of him.

But Billy and Weakly Standard are not particularly helpful to The Movement, IMHO. Pinkshirts. They represent precisely 17 “republicans” in DC & suburbs.


45 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: EveningStar

He should be proud of what he has left behind -
Wm F Buckley, not so much....


46 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:35 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: EveningStar

RIP, and prayers for the Kristol family. Great minds.


47 posted on 09/18/2009 2:22:28 PM PDT by freedom_is_earned
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To: SandWMan

Oh, GO AWAY - and how shameful to crash a thread dedicated to the passing of a great man and thinker - you POS...


48 posted on 09/18/2009 2:22:32 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: rabscuttle385

You mean, like McCain supporters?


49 posted on 09/18/2009 2:23:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

He is more well known for his bestselling books and insurgent campaign to audit the Federal Reserve.

Did you see the ‘Audit the Fed Hits 290 Co Sponsors’ thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2342245/posts

That was a nice surprise for Constitution Day!


50 posted on 09/18/2009 2:25:50 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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To: Palin Republic

Yes, Ron Paul is a brilliant man. He intends to highlight the Fed’s abuse of power by having it audited . . . by the government. Where did we find such a giant?


51 posted on 09/18/2009 2:29:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: EveningStar

Trying to be balanced ... I think the differences between neoconservatives and paleoconservatives are as follows:

1. Paleocons believe in God; Neocons believe that belief in God is healthy for the nation

2. Paleocons believe that our rights are truly God-given; neocons believe that it is good that our rights are SAID TO BE God-given

3. Paleocons believe that the world is a difficult place so foreign policy needs to be openly cynical and self-interested; Neocons believe that the best foreign policy depends on both being cunning and tough, but in the service of openly-declared democratic ideals (i.e. cynicism is a self-fulfiulling prophecy).

4. Paleocons believe that private property rights are ends in themselves; neocons believe that property rights are important because they facilitate the functioning of a moderate democratic polity


52 posted on 09/18/2009 2:29:48 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: SandWMan

Isolationism has it’s roots in liberalism, ie the UNIONS.


53 posted on 09/18/2009 2:30:02 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: DogBarkTree

That’s bull... it’s a simple cop out for dual loyalist militant socialists to deflect critism from actual conservatives and patriots.


54 posted on 09/18/2009 2:30:23 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: traderrob6
Isolationism has it’s roots in liberalism, ie the UNIONS.

Which they abandoned after their beloved Soviet Union was invaded by the Nazis.

55 posted on 09/18/2009 2:30:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Right-Wing Champion

Considering the guy (and his son) were card carrying members, I would consider him as anti-communist as his ideaological hero, Leon Trotsky.


56 posted on 09/18/2009 2:31:22 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: ari-freedom

Did you type that with a strait face?


57 posted on 09/18/2009 2:31:52 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: traderrob6
Isolationism, yes.

Non-interventionism, not so much.

58 posted on 09/18/2009 2:32:14 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: SandWMan

You mean “old right” as in the John Birch Society? Pat Buchanan? Yeah, I get what you’re about.


59 posted on 09/18/2009 2:33:03 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: 1rudeboy

“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?”

No, those are the neos. Nothing says freedom like bankster bailouts, surveilence and “free speech zones.”


60 posted on 09/18/2009 2:33:44 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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