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The End Is Near Not!
IBD Editorials ^ | September 22, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 09/22/2009 6:14:26 PM PDT by Kaslin

Global Warming: President Obama warns of planetary doom at the U.N. if we fail to pass cap-and-trade legislation. Meanwhile, a former warm-monger predicts decades of cooling as the sun stays nearly "spotless."


The president had hoped to address Tuesday's United Nations climate change summit in New York with a finished cap-and-trade bill. Failing that, he hoped he'd at least have a version of the Waxman-Markey bill that has passed the House on his desk before the Copenhagen talks in December to cobble together a follow-up to the failed Kyoto Protocol.

Not only did that not happen in the cool summer of 2009, but both science and circumstance have turned against the administration. The American people are in no mood in a recession with near double-digit unemployment to have their electricity rates "necessarily skyrocket" while our economic hole is dug deeper for microscopic, if detectable at all, reductions in global temperature.

The president paraphrased Al Gore's sentiment that the science is settled and the debate is over, saying that "after too many years of inaction and denial, there is finally widespread recognition of the urgency of the challenge before us. We know what needs to be done."

Actually, the science is not settled. Nor is it clear what, if anything, needs to be done to prevent what he called "irreversible catastrophe."

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1 posted on 09/22/2009 6:14:26 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: bareford101; BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; Celeste732; dsc; Faux_Pas; fortunecookie; ...

2 posted on 09/22/2009 6:15:30 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 6:16:00 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Kaslin

Whoever would have that a fiery 100,000 degree ball one million times as large as the earth would affect the temperature of the earth.


4 posted on 09/22/2009 6:18:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Kaslin
I cancelled my subscription to National Geographic Magazine because all their writers are constantly droning on about human induced global warming.

It is far from 'settled science.'

My son is a physicists and he says it's a joke.

5 posted on 09/22/2009 6:19:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: Army Air Corps; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Thanx !

 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 09/22/2009 6:23:48 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blam

I canceled my prescription about 25 years ago


7 posted on 09/22/2009 6:24:08 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

BO Plenty reminds me of Jim Jones. Get a base of uneducated poor people who can’t or won’t think on their own, and let the annointed leader do the thinking for them.

Of course the planet is doomed! The glorious leader BO Plenty said so, and the only way to stop the immediate destruction of the planet is to send all of your money to P. O. Box 60601, Chicago IL 60601 ATTN: BO Plenty. If you can send gold coins that would be even better.


8 posted on 09/22/2009 6:30:16 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: Kaslin
"irreversible catastrophe."

Sounds like -8nobama is talking about the health care bill again.

9 posted on 09/22/2009 6:31:57 PM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: blam

National Geographic was great in the 50s when they had articles like “The Friendly Atom.” Made me want to have my own nuclear reactor.


10 posted on 09/22/2009 6:34:11 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Kaslin
Last 'graph:
Latif and others conclude that, at the very least, we have time to think about it and analyze and learn. We don't have to fight global warming by inflicting global poverty. More things on Earth affect climate than are dreamed up in computer models.
Betcha there's some greenies crying in their beers and throwing hissy fits. Wonder if -8nobama will join them?
11 posted on 09/22/2009 6:36:55 PM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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Catastrophism
 
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12 posted on 09/22/2009 6:38:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Kaslin

Reminds me of the Emperor’s New Clothes ... these guys are going to be “bare” when this hoax is finally exposed. Will be fun to watch (but not a pretty sight, I think).


13 posted on 09/22/2009 6:38:57 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Peace, Love and Insecurity @ http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/)
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To: blam
zero & his commie pals, what an incredible bunch of fools!
Evil begets evil and it dulls the mind.
14 posted on 09/22/2009 6:47:24 PM PDT by 99Floyd (zero/emptysuit: lie & deny, what a tool..take a hike)
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To: Kaslin

This is a scam, it always has been a scam, it’s all about CONTROL!


15 posted on 09/22/2009 6:50:05 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (spirit of 1776)
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To: 99Floyd

“what an incredible bunch of fools!”

I wish they were only fools. Fools don’t have the energy and drive of the truly Evil.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 6:56:42 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Scientist says CO2 ‘good for planet’
http://www.codyenterprise.com ^ | Sept 22, 2009 | By Kristen Inbody

Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:15 AM by Maelstorm

There’s good news on the global climate change front: All that carbon dioxide blamed for global warming is actually good for our planet, says Cody scientist and writer Leighton Steward.

“The earth’s atmosphere needs more carbon dioxide,” he said at a recent Rotary Club meeting. “That ought to get everyone’s attention.”

The CO2 level now is about 385 parts per million. It’s been as high as 7,000 during the earth’s history. *

“Climate is always changing,” he said. “You should never expect climate at an equilibrium, and history shows it’s not.”

More CO2 means better crops and forests, Steward says, but not necessarily a warmer planet since other factors play a bigger role in heating the planet.

“This relates directly to the food supply,” he said. “Green is good, and CO2 is very green.”

CO2 boosts plant growth, making them larger, faster-growing and more drought tolerant with better roots. Steward calls that good news in a world with a growing population.

“When you’re deciding what ought to be done, think about what this could do for mankind,” he said.

Taking CO2 back to pre-industrial levels would degrade habitats and push people into starvation, Steward said.

“CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s the stuff of life. I can’t find anything that’s not beneficial,” he said. “This comes from thousands of studies – mainly from the agricultural community, and these are not casual observers.”

Spending billions and enacting draconian restrictions to fight a “pollutant” that’s not a pollutant isn’t helping anyone, he said.

“If we let our factories continue to manufacture, that’s not necessarily bad and might be good,” he said. “We (pro-CO2 groups) are greener than all the green organizations lobbying to reduce CO2.”

It’s a message scientists across the world are trying to promote, and Steward cited numerous studies.

When he started researching climate change four years ago, Steward found there are 18 “drivers” of climate change, including things like variation in the shape of the earth’s orbit, sunspots and the magnetic effect of the sun.

CO2’s ability to trap heat declines logarithmically, so a great deal of the gas makes a big difference, but as the level dips the difference it makes drops exponentially.

That means doubling the current concentration of CO2 would only make a .2 degree difference, he said.

If CO2 was a significant factor in global warming, temperatures would have risen – as modeling predicted – instead of declining since 2001.

“It’s hard to argue with that,” he said. “They did not predict in any of their models that it would be cooling.”

Since the Industrial Revolution, people have pumped CO2 into the atmosphere and temperature has generally risen, though not always.

“These are natural trends,” he said. “Look at the magnitude of climate variation. Huge swings of 10, 15, 20 degrees.”

Former vice president Al Gore got facts wrong in his documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” Steward said.

“Clearly things were absolutely false in some cases and misleading in other cases,” he said.

For example, Gore said the earth was warming at an unprecedented rate. However, in the 1920s and ’30s, the temperature increase was more dramatic, Steward said.

Contrary to Gore’s findings, cyclone and tornado strength is actually down now, says Steward, a geologist and retired energy industry executive. He is a trustee at the Buffalo Bill Historical Center and lives on the North Fork and in Texas.

Steward, the author of the best-seller “Sugar Busters,” recently published “Fire, Ice and Paradise” Scientist says CO2 ‘good for planet’
http://www.codyenterprise.com ^ | Sept 22, 2009 | By Kristen Inbody

Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:15 AM by Maelstorm

There’s good news on the global climate change front: All that carbon dioxide blamed for global warming is actually good for our planet, says Cody scientist and writer Leighton Steward.

“The earth’s atmosphere needs more carbon dioxide,” he said at a recent Rotary Club meeting. “That ought to get everyone’s attention.”

The CO2 level now is about 385 parts per million. It’s been as high as 7,000 during the earth’s history. *

“Climate is always changing,” he said. “You should never expect climate at an equilibrium, and history shows it’s not.”

More CO2 means better crops and forests, Steward says, but not necessarily a warmer planet since other factors play a bigger role in heating the planet.

“This relates directly to the food supply,” he said. “Green is good, and CO2 is very green.”

CO2 boosts plant growth, making them larger, faster-growing and more drought tolerant with better roots. Steward calls that good news in a world with a growing population.

“When you’re deciding what ought to be done, think about what this could do for mankind,” he said.

Taking CO2 back to pre-industrial levels would degrade habitats and push people into starvation, Steward said.

“CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s the stuff of life. I can’t find anything that’s not beneficial,” he said. “This comes from thousands of studies – mainly from the agricultural community, and these are not casual observers.”

Spending billions and enacting draconian restrictions to fight a “pollutant” that’s not a pollutant isn’t helping anyone, he said.

“If we let our factories continue to manufacture, that’s not necessarily bad and might be good,” he said. “We (pro-CO2 groups) are greener than all the green organizations lobbying to reduce CO2.”

It’s a message scientists across the world are trying to promote, and Steward cited numerous studies.

When he started researching climate change four years ago, Steward found there are 18 “drivers” of climate change, including things like variation in the shape of the earth’s orbit, sunspots and the magnetic effect of the sun.

CO2’s ability to trap heat declines logarithmically, so a great deal of the gas makes a big difference, but as the level dips the difference it makes drops exponentially.

That means doubling the current concentration of CO2 would only make a .2 degree difference, he said.

If CO2 was a significant factor in global warming, temperatures would have risen – as modeling predicted – instead of declining since 2001.

“It’s hard to argue with that,” he said. “They did not predict in any of their models that it would be cooling.”

Since the Industrial Revolution, people have pumped CO2 into the atmosphere and temperature has generally risen, though not always.

“These are natural trends,” he said. “Look at the magnitude of climate variation. Huge swings of 10, 15, 20 degrees.”

Former vice president Al Gore got facts wrong in his documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” Steward said.

“Clearly things were absolutely false in some cases and misleading in other cases,” he said.

For example, Gore said the earth was warming at an unprecedented rate. However, in the 1920s and ’30s, the temperature increase was more dramatic, Steward said.

Contrary to Gore’s findings, cyclone and tornado strength is actually down now, says Steward, a geologist and retired energy industry executive. He is a trustee at the Buffalo Bill Historical Center and lives on the North Fork and in Texas.

Steward, the author of the best-seller “Sugar Busters,” recently published “Fire, Ice and Paradise” on climate change.

This summer, he organized a non-profit organization, “Plants Need CO2,” with the mission, “To educate the public on the positive effects of additional atmospheric CO2 and help prevent the inadvertent negative impact to human, plant and animal life if we reduce CO2.”

More than half the contributions to his group are from the coal industry, he said. CO2 is released during the burning of fossil fuels, among other sources.

“I’m not getting a penny for doing this,” he added. “It’s just something people of the earth ought to know.”
on climate change.

This summer, he organized a non-profit organization, “Plants Need CO2,” with the mission, “To educate the public on the positive effects of additional atmospheric CO2 and help prevent the inadvertent negative impact to human, plant and animal life if we reduce CO2.”

More than half the contributions to his group are from the coal industry, he said. CO2 is released during the burning of fossil fuels, among other sources.

“I’m not getting a penny for doing this,” he added. “It’s just something people of the earth ought to know.”


17 posted on 09/22/2009 7:24:49 PM PDT by tankrlm
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"National Geographic was great in the 50s when they had articles like “The Friendly Atom.” Made me want to have my own nuclear reactor. "

I remember seeing very similar articles in "Popular Science" as well, for that matter.
18 posted on 09/23/2009 2:49:52 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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