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Why is McCain using Maoist language on Palin? [Manchurian candidate alert]
FR ^ | 2009-10-11 | FReepers rae4palin, piytar, cripplecreek, rabscuttle385, and others

Posted on 10/11/2009 8:06:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

This morning, in an interview with CNN's State of the Union, Sen. John McCain (RINO-Ariz.) apparently used some rather choice language to describe the fairly evident future political aspirations of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Ak.):

"Will Sarah and I - did we always agree on everything in the past? Will we in the future? No. But let's let a thousand flowers bloom. Let's come up with a winning combination next time."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2360310/posts

With only a cursory glance, it appears from McCain's language that he is merely asking for a second chance -- in 2012? -- with Palin. [And, at first blush, it is easy to dismiss his words as the ravings of a senile old man.] However, as FReeper rae4palin pointed out, the phrase

“Let a thousand flowers bloom” was said by Mao to encourage dissidents to self-identify. Mao then killed them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2360310/posts?page=26#26

[Or, more precisely, as other FReepers noted, the phrase "let a thousand flowers of bloom" is a variant of a Maoist phrase "let a hundred flowers bloom." In all cases, however, the distinction between the two phrases--Maoist and McCainian--or in other words, the word "hundred" vs. the word "thousand," are irrelevant to the phrase's meaning.]

In fact, this observation was also picked up and expounded upon by other FReepers, including piytar and cripplecreek. The origin of the phrase "let a hundred flowers bloom" (i.e., the actual phrase upon which McCain's particular words were based) is...Chinese Communist Mao Zedong! As FReeper cripplecreek noted,

Let a thousand flowers bloom is a common misquotation of Chairman Mao Zedong’s “Let a hundred flowers blossom”. This slogan was used during the period of approximately six weeks in the summer of 1957 when the Chinese intelligentsia were invited to criticize the political system then obtaining in Communist China.

The full quotation, taken from a speech of Mao’s in Peking in February 1957, is:

“Letting a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land.”

It is sometimes suggested that the initiative was a deliberate attempt to flush out dissidents by encouraging them to show themselves as critical of the regime. Whether or not it was a deliberate trap isn’t clear but it is the case that many of those who put forward views that were unwelcome to Mao were executed.

The biggest question here is why McCain specifically elected to use a Maoist phrase in connection with Palin's fairly obvious future political aspirations. Certainly, it goes without saying that his choice of words is especially disturbing, given his time in captivity in North Vietnam. [Could it be that the late conservative activist Ted Sampley, who presciently labeled McCain as a "Manchurian candidate" nearly seventeen years ago, was right all along?] Furthermore, upon closer examination of McCain's language, especially in the context of his past actions as a noted RINO and member of the Beltway establishment, it becomes alarmingly obvious that his words constitute nothing less than a veiled threat against Palin, or i.e., the Republican establishment considers her a direct threat to the continuance of their power and will most certaintly attempt to derail her future aspirations, much as Mao encouraged Chinese intelligentsia to speak freely nearly fifty-seven years ago...before executing the ones he disagreed with.


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1 posted on 10/11/2009 8:06:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Of course what happened after those 100 flowers were invited to bloom - is they were almost immediately thereafter, mercilessly smashed in the ensuing crackdown.


2 posted on 10/11/2009 8:09:33 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: rae4palin; piytar; Markos33; cripplecreek; TigersEye; TADSLOS; DoughtyOne; exit82; AuntB; ...
***SPECIAL EMERGENCY PING***
3 posted on 10/11/2009 8:10:40 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

bfl


4 posted on 10/11/2009 8:11:34 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: rabscuttle385; rxsid; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
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. . . Don't miss the last paragraph in the article.

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5 posted on 10/11/2009 8:13:28 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I called him McChurian a long time ago.


6 posted on 10/11/2009 8:14:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: rabscuttle385

Palin may be part of a winning combination... YOU, McLAME, WILL NOT BE


7 posted on 10/11/2009 8:14:16 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: rabscuttle385; shibumi; Salamander; piytar

ping to this.


8 posted on 10/11/2009 8:14:32 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty will result in cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain’s not that smart. IMHO there’s no conspiracy to cause to self-identify and then “kill off” (figuratively) non-RINO republicans. McCain is just being an idiot, which is quite believable and in character for him.

On the other hand, I can’t help but agree with the old guy when he says, “Let’s come up with a winning combination next time.”

That winning combination DOES NOT include John McCain.


9 posted on 10/11/2009 8:15:12 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is such a douchebag. Surely SOMEONE must have some real nasty dirt on the SOB to wreck him in 2010.


10 posted on 10/11/2009 8:19:13 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: rabscuttle385

Wow! GREAT post, very thorough. Far better than I would have done!

OK, off to ping Drudge et al.


11 posted on 10/11/2009 8:23:16 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: piytar

:-)


12 posted on 10/11/2009 8:23:42 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

After the hundred flowers blossomed to remind all of the beauty of freedom, they were pulled up by the roots like weeds and left to die in the hot Red sun.


13 posted on 10/11/2009 8:27:59 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Your obsession with McCain is bordering on the insane.


14 posted on 10/11/2009 8:31:06 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Nervous Tick; piytar; Markos33; rae4palin; cripplecreek
McCain’s not that smart..

Maybe, maybe not. But if he's not, there are people behind him that are.

IMHO there’s no conspiracy to cause to self-identify and then “kill off” (figuratively) non-RINO republicans.

There probably isn't some organized "Illuminati" type conspiracy (*crosses fingers*), but I assure you, the GOP establishment--the Beltway crowd--feels threatened by Palin and the Tea Parties and the apparent awakening of the electorate. Or, they could just be a bunch of elitists who feel that Palin presents competition and an obstacle to the continuance of their agenda, including their continued existence within the Beltway.

If she becomes too big of a threat, the GOP establishment--including McCain, who's trying to establish his "bipartisan" legacy before he joins his buddy Teddy Kennedy (or before one of {Hayworth, Simcox, Deakin, another GOP or Rat challenger} defeats him in {2010, 2016}), and Romney, who's trying to run for President in 2012, and Palin's candidacy effectively ends his aspirations--will openly try to derail her.

Plus, it goes without saying that Palin is an open and unlimited threat to the Democrats.

15 posted on 10/11/2009 8:31:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why do I get the feeling the title is a rhetorical question?


16 posted on 10/11/2009 8:32:30 PM PDT by ActrFshr
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To: rabscuttle385

>> But if he’s not, there are people behind him that are.

ROFL! Really? Where the f**k were they when he was running for Prez? Or have they signed on since his epic fail? Tell me you’re not talking about Steve Schmidt?


17 posted on 10/11/2009 8:33:31 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385; Las Vegas Ron; XenaLee

WOW, that is weird, very weird!


18 posted on 10/11/2009 8:34:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: LucyT

Oh yes, that there link is priceless:

http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm


19 posted on 10/11/2009 8:34:21 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: Bob J

If this thread is insanity - sign me up.

This is a well-researched, thoughtfully prepared thread of facts on one of the greatest challengers to freedom in American today. John McCain must be defeated in 2010.


20 posted on 10/11/2009 8:35:44 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is really going ‘round the bend.

He should retire.


21 posted on 10/11/2009 8:38:46 PM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Um, as much as I am sick of McCan’t, there is little question that he’s intelligent. Also, given his background, there is little chance he doesn’t know the context of this phrase. Anyone who has studied Mao and authoritarianism even superficially does.

In light of that, I’m not so willing to brush this off. Maybe it wasn’t intentional, but it was at least a Freudian slip (IMHO).


22 posted on 10/11/2009 8:39:10 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: piytar

>> Maybe it wasn’t intentional, but it was at least a Freudian slip (IMHO).

That wouldn’t be out of character. I wouldn’t have to suspend much disbelief to go *there*.


23 posted on 10/11/2009 8:42:21 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385
I predict that McCain and others will try to ride on Sarah's coat tails now that they have seen how widespread her support is. This will defeat our efforts to get real conservative change.

I will be really disappointed if Sarah lets anyone hijack the campaign.

24 posted on 10/11/2009 8:45:15 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Bob J; rabscuttle385

yeah, at some point youd think rabs would run outta new materiel...yet the hits just keep on comin from ole juan...


25 posted on 10/11/2009 8:51:39 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force... Like fire, a dangerous servant & master. GW)
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To: Gilbo_3

McNuts hands me fresh ammo nearly every day.


26 posted on 10/11/2009 8:53:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: Bob J; rabscuttle385

McCain is dangerous because he’s part of the RINO power structure.

He needs to be watched and defeated ASAP.

IMO McCain is, in large part, why we have Obunghole as POTUS. He sabotaged his own campaign and all but endorsed 0.

Anyone that exposes McCain to legitimate criticism should be applauded not derided.


27 posted on 10/11/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I will ask him about this comment. It is disturbing to say the least.


28 posted on 10/11/2009 8:59:44 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: rabscuttle385

Wasn’t this also attributed to George Herbert Walker Bush?


29 posted on 10/11/2009 9:05:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: gwilhelm56

Hey, if he has made what he believes is a compliment to Sarah Palin, why not just let it be. I think the old snarl face would be proud if she made it to the 2012 nomination.


30 posted on 10/11/2009 9:07:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Nervous Tick

This is what McCain said about POWs in hearings in front of his committee: “The people who have done these things are not zealots in a good cause. They are criminals and some of the most craven, most cynical and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam.”

He is real good - big nasty man - when attacking his own side, it would appear. He hates and betrays those he should respect and work with and he embraces and esteems those who he should be working against.

He does love Marxists and he does hate Republicans and American-Americans.


31 posted on 10/11/2009 9:09:03 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Folks, he is probably very worried about Palin’s book and what kind of “inside” info about him and how his handlers treated Palin during the campaign. “Going Rouge by Sarah Palin” has got McCain running scared!


32 posted on 10/11/2009 9:23:55 PM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: rabscuttle385

To all those getting on rabscuttle for this thread: On another thread I requested that someone post a vanity about this because I couldn’t pull all these pieces together in a vanity using my phone. I posted the orignal verification of rae4palin’s observation on that thread that McCain was (mis)quoting Mao Zedong. So blame me, not rabscuttle.

That said, this was either a not-so-subtle threat to those who challenge the RINO power structure or a Freudian slip. Both are awful: a threat or a revelation of an underlying Maoist subconscious. If you don’t think that’s hugh and series (freeper lingo for huge and serious for any newbies or lurkers), you’re nuts. And if you do but still feel a need to castigate rabscuttle, then I suggest you get a raise from your GOP establishment handlers for the embarassment of making fools of yourselves in public.

PS I voted for McCain (or rather for Palin and against Obama). I even defended him here of Free Republic during the election. I won’t make that collosal mistake in judgment about McCain again.


33 posted on 10/11/2009 9:29:30 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Nope. You're thinking of “a thousand points of light.” A draft meme, but totally different with none of the Maoist connotations. (Actually, no connotations. As I said, daft.)
34 posted on 10/11/2009 9:34:39 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: piytar

A draft meme huh. What was the final meme?


35 posted on 10/11/2009 9:36:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Of George HW Bush? His memes ended with “Clinton looks pretty good”...


36 posted on 10/11/2009 9:38:25 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: rabscuttle385
John McCain, Jack Kemp and Hugo Chavez.

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia Mr. Blackhawk Down (YouTube VIDEO)

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides When McCain had a chance to help POWs ...

Former P.O.W.: "Why I Cannot Support Senator John McCain for President"

U.S. POW/MIAs Who May Have Survived In Captivity

The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Is No Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

McCain and his Chicom Connections: Posts #17 and #18 by Calpernia

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands... (...with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.)

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

37 posted on 10/11/2009 9:54:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Most excellent. John McCain is probably, like an 85% chance, a Manchurian candidate, since he received special treatment as a POW in the past and gives special treatment to bad Vietnamese leaders in the present.


38 posted on 10/11/2009 10:27:18 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Bob J
Forget it Bob. The gig’s up. They’re on to us.

I’ve dumped the rest of the fluoride in the water supply and I’ve turned the brain wave transmitters to max. That should buy us some time.

The bilderbergs and the illuminati are in the back burning Eisenhower’s secret correspondence with the Kremlin and we’ve disguised the concentration camps as Japanese flower gardens. We can’t find all the blueprints for WTC7 but George may still have them. He’ll know what to do. If you can, pull the mothership around to the back because we may have to bail in a hurry.

Sorry it had to end this way but these folks are just too smart for us.

39 posted on 10/11/2009 11:00:37 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Bob J

rabs is just another Ron Paul/ Chuckie Baldwin nutter trying to tear down anyone who doesn’t toe his extremist line. He rarely posts about Obama with the hate he shows toward McCain.


40 posted on 10/11/2009 11:26:01 PM PDT by JerryP (I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Don’t forget the Jews and ZOG. They’re the ones behind it ALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 10/11/2009 11:29:23 PM PDT by JerryP (I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be)
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To: JerryP

I know ZIG. I know ZAG. What’s ZOG?


42 posted on 10/11/2009 11:33:10 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Sarah is already on board with transitioning the GOP into a party of the future not one of the past.


43 posted on 10/11/2009 11:34:43 PM PDT by JerryP (I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be)
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To: JerryP

They will try to steer things in their favor, don’t doubt thst for a minute!


44 posted on 10/11/2009 11:37:40 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: JerryP; cripplecreek; sickoflibs
rabs is just another Ron Paul/ Chuckie Baldwin nutter trying to tear down anyone who doesn’t toe his extremist line.

Shills for RINOs...check.

Calls established Freepers "extremists"...check.

Newbie...check.

How's life under the bridge, RINO lover?

45 posted on 10/11/2009 11:39:44 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: TigersEye

More backstabbing from the usual suspects. Do you have a page full of dirt on Obama? Oh of course not, he’s your Messiah.


46 posted on 10/11/2009 11:41:36 PM PDT by JerryP (I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Zionist Occupied Government. That’s a phrase I see splashed around a lot by the Paulestinian/Constitution Party/ Stormfront crowd to which so many of the anti-Republican McCain bashers belong.


47 posted on 10/11/2009 11:44:15 PM PDT by JerryP (I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be)
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To: JerryP; TigersEye
More backstabbing from the usual suspects.

Yep, McCain likes stabbing conservatives in their backs. It's his modus operandi.

You, on the other hand, are a RINO troll.

48 posted on 10/11/2009 11:44:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: JerryP
I see. My handlers from the ultrasecret GOP establishment must have been keeping me out of the loop. At least Operation Tripwire was initiated.

Am I saying too much?

49 posted on 10/11/2009 11:48:06 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: JerryP; TigersEye; rabscuttle385
Damn son.

I haven't been on this site much longer than you, but you would do well to at least get your feet wet before you start accusing established Freepers of things that you know nothing about.

50 posted on 10/11/2009 11:48:45 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty will result in cascading Third World tyranny.)
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